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by Desmosthenes and Burke » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:21 pm
by South St Maarten » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:37 am
Thanks for the commentsDesmosthenes and Burke wrote:OOC:
Clause 5 is a bit of a mess given the rewording you made to, I believe clause 3. Clause 8 is superfluous in my opinion. Why are you granting a right to member states they already possess? Especially since those of us that qualify as civilized do that LONG before adulthood?
by South St Maarten » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:16 am
by Philimbesi » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:04 am
"7. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship(s)."
by Old Hope » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:05 pm
Philimbesi wrote:Hello, honored ambassador. Interesting concept you forward here. A question, I fail to see the purpose behind the following clause;"7. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship(s)."
Surely, if we are applying citizenship of the parents when known, and the guardians when unknown, the citizenship status of the child can't become a question no matter how many are born at the same time? What am I missing my friend?
Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.
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by South St Maarten » Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:25 am
Old Hope wrote:Philimbesi wrote:Hello, honored ambassador. Interesting concept you forward here. A question, I fail to see the purpose behind the following clause;
Surely, if we are applying citizenship of the parents when known, and the guardians when unknown, the citizenship status of the child can't become a question no matter how many are born at the same time? What am I missing my friend?
Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.
Indeed, this clause seems to be not good.
Could be very complicated if these twins are not from the same father, and impossible if e.g. the citizienship law of a non-member nation states that only the firstborn of a mother gets citizienship...
OOC: This might need stricter wording to prevent it from applying to or involuntarily affecting non-member nations, which would be illegal.
Philimbesi wrote:Hello, honored ambassador. Interesting concept you forward here. A question, I fail to see the purpose behind the following clause;"7. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship(s)."
Surely, if we are applying citizenship of the parents when known, and the guardians when unknown, the citizenship status of the child can't become a question no matter how many are born at the same time? What am I missing my friend?
Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.
by Imperium Anglorum » Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:02 am
South St Maarten wrote:The World Assembly,
Affirming that
- all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation and that
- children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable,
Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless, and
Concluding that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation, hereby enacts as follows:
- In this resolution,
- Jus sanguinis refers to a nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality You mean citizenship here? of the mother and/or father.
- Adolescence Do you mean age of majority? means an age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
- All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen. I would rewrite to something like 'all children of citizens of member nations...'
- If a child has Is entitled to? citizenship in multiple nations, and one of such nations does not allow dual citizenship, upon adolescence, the child will be forced to choose only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it. In such cases, nations that do not allow dual-citizenship are required to allow it until the child can choose to take only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it. Perhaps rephrase the entire clause to 'Nations which prohibit dual-citizenship must defer enforcement of such policies until a dual citizen reaches the age of majority.'
- If the parents have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that prohibit citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned, upon reaching adolescence, the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker. Would not the child be stateless before the age of majority?
- All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and shall retain them, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance with national law. Perhaps rephrase to 'Citizenship may not be revoked or otherwise stripped except in accordance with procedures set forth by law'.
- Persons born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship. Why is this necessary?
by Rightport » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:26 am
by South St Maarten » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:35 am
Rightport wrote:The Government of Rightport recently enacted legislation that achieves the objectives identified in your draft. This year, our administration has taken substantive steps to "reduce statelessness" in our country and provide a pathway to citizenship for those that call Rightport home. We have no objections to the above proposal.
The Government of Rightport supports.
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I did some copy-editing, preserving the general text as much as possible. The box below is the result of that copy-editing. Comments in red text, bolded. Prefatory clauses were reformatted more heavily than the operative text, with corrections to the list and also to get rid of the 'Further blahing' repetition.South St Maarten wrote:The World Assembly,
Affirming that
- all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation and that
- children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable,
Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless, and
Concluding that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation, hereby enacts as follows:
- In this resolution,
- Jus sanguinis refers to a nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality You mean citizenship here? of the mother and/or father.
- Adolescence Do you mean age of majority? means an age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
- All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen. I would rewrite to something like 'all children of citizens of member nations...'
- If a child has Is entitled to? citizenship in multiple nations, and one of such nations does not allow dual citizenship, upon adolescence, the child will be forced to choose only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it. In such cases, nations that do not allow dual-citizenship are required to allow it until the child can choose to take only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it. Perhaps rephrase the entire clause to 'Nations which prohibit dual-citizenship must defer enforcement of such policies until a dual citizen reaches the age of majority.'
- If the parents have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that prohibit citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned, upon reaching adolescence, the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker. Would not the child be stateless before the age of majority?
- All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and shall retain them, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance with national law. Perhaps rephrase to 'Citizenship may not be revoked or otherwise stripped except in accordance with procedures set forth by law'.
- Persons born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship. Why is this necessary?
by South St Maarten » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:36 am
by Maowi » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:52 pm
4. If the father and mother both have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless they are revoked or otherwise stripped in accordance with procedures set forth by law.
by Mancheseva City » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:30 am
by South St Maarten » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:36 am
Maowi wrote:4. If the father and mother both have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless they are revoked or otherwise stripped in accordance with procedures set forth by law.
"In both these clauses, does the use of the plural in brackets indicate that all of the citizenships are affected by the mandate in question, or merely at least one? The clauses' meaning seems ambiguous to me. Furthermore, the phrasing of clause 5 seems to suggest that a person may not resign any citizenship of theirs of their own accord, which I believe is a possibility that should be accounted for."
by South St Maarten » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:41 am
Mancheseva City wrote:GS: "I do not believe that "mother and father" is an inclusive enough term. In all my interplanetary travels I have seen many species that have ways of reproduction that differ from human ones (here I am assuming that "mother and father" refers to the biological parents). I think the term "biological parent or parents" would be the most logical language that would also be inclusive. I may have further comments but this is the most glaring issue."
by Mancheseva City » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:53 am
South St Maarten wrote:Mancheseva City wrote:GS: "I do not believe that "mother and father" is an inclusive enough term. In all my interplanetary travels I have seen many species that have ways of reproduction that differ from human ones (here I am assuming that "mother and father" refers to the biological parents). I think the term "biological parent or parents" would be the most logical language that would also be inclusive. I may have further comments but this is the most glaring issue."
Thanks for the comment
You could perhaps say "Male biological parent" and "Female biological parent" to allow that possibility. But then again, that would assume one is male and one is female. Furthermore, I wrote this proposal with the intention of applying to humans. There are asexual-reproducing organisms on Earth, no? I didn't think this act would apply to them, too.
by Daarwyrth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:22 am
by Brilliantly » Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:50 am
South St Maarten wrote:Good Morning Everyone, this one is now in its ninth draft. As always, comments are appreciated (and encouraged). Would especially appreciate thoughts on category & strength.
Thanks, South St Maarten
Citizenship And Birth Act
The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
This sounds fine when overviewed from a far, but there are potential flaws and this left out important details. The quote “ that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth. The word stateless dosen’t really fit in the proposal because there is no chance that a child will be left alone due to the location of their birth. The hospital staff, parents, extended family and even foster care can handle the baby. Otherwise this is a pretty good proposal protection children’s rights at birth.
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable,
Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless, and
Concluding that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation, hereby enacts as follows:1. In this resolution,
a. Jus sanguinis refers to a nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the citizenship of the mother and/or father.
2. All children of citizens of member nations, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen.
b. Age of majority shall be defined as an age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
3. Nations which prohibit dual-citizenship must defer enforcement of such policies until a dual citizen reaches the age of majority.
4. If the father and mother both have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless they are revoked or otherwise stripped in accordance with procedures set forth by law.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality of the mother and/or father.
2. Adolescence shall be defined as the age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
3. All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen.
4. If a child has citizenship in multiple nations, and one of such nations does not allow dual citizenship, upon adolescence, the child will be forced to choose only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.a. In such cases, nations that do not allow dual-citizenship are required to allow it until the child can choose to take only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.
5. If the father and mother both have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned, upon reaching adolescence, the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker
6. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing legislation from individual member nations.
7. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality of the mother and/or father.
2. Adolescence shall be defined as the age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
3. All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen.
4. If a child has citizenship in multiple nations, and one of such nations does not allow dual citizenship, upon adolescence, the child will be forced to choose only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.a. In such cases, nations that do not allow dual-citizenship are required to allow it until the child can choose to take only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.
5. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.a. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned, upon reaching adolescence, the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker
6. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing legislation from individual member nations.
7. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
8. Nations may, in situations where the legal guardian of the child is not their biological mother or father for the entirety of their childhood, also grant the child, upon reaching adulthood, the citizenship of their guardian, but are by no means required to.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the location in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.b. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, Jus Soli will be instituted as a last resort.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing legislation from individual member nations.
6. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
7. Nations may institute a policy in which children are also awarded their father's citizenship(s), but only in the following circumstance:a. If the nation in which the mother is a citizen allows dual citizenship, and the nation in which the father is a citizen has decided to institute such a policy, then the child shall also attain the citizenship(s) of the father.
8. Nations may furthermore institute Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but only in the following circumstance:a. If the nation in which the mother is a citizen allows dual citizenship, and the nation in which the child was born has decided to institute such a policy, then the child shall also attain the citizenship(s) of the father.
9. Nations may, in situations where the legal guardian of the child is not their biological mother or father for the entirety of their childhood, also grant the child, upon reaching adulthood, the citizenship of their guardian, but are by no means required to.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nationality of the bloodline of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nation in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. In following Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.a. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, Jus Soli will be instituted as a last resort.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing World Assembly legislation.
6. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
7. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
8. Nations may also institute a policy in which children may also be awarded their father's citizenship(s), but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in all nations of which their father is a citizen.
9. Nations may, in situations where the legal guardian of the child is not their biological mother or father for the entirety of their childhood, also grant the child, upon reaching adulthood, the citizenship of their guardian, but are by no means required to.
10. Exceptions to clauses 7 & 8 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother's nationality differs from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother to choose a single nationality for the child.
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, only use Jus Sanguinis, but require the child to be awarded the citizenship(s) of both parents. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenship(s), may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nationality of the bloodline of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nation in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. In following the principle of Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.a. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, Jus Soli will be instituted as a last resort.
4. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing World Assembly legislation.
5. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
6. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
7. Nations may also institute a policy in which children may also be awarded their father's citizenship(s), but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in all nations of which their father is a citizen.
8. Exceptions to clauses 6 & 7 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother's nationality differs from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother to choose a single nationality for the child.
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, only use Jus Sanguinis, but require the child to be awarded the citizenship(s) of both parents. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenship(s), may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nationality of the bloodline of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nation in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. In following the principle of Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing World Assembly legislation.
5. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
6. Nations may also institute a policy in which children may also be awarded their father's citizenship(s), but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in all nations of which their father is a citizen.
7. Exceptions to clauses 5 & 6 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother's nationality differs from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother to choose a single nationality for the child.
8. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, only use Jus Sanguinis, but require the child to be awarded the citizenship(s) of both parents. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenship(s), may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are:1. Not citizens of, and
Acknowledging that children are also occasionally born in a nation of which their parents are not citizens but are residents of,
2. Not residents of, and
Realizing that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness",
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. In following the principle of Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded;
a. Citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen,
2. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless
b. Citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen;a. Such person decides to voluntarily give up the citizenship of the nation they were born in or the citizenship given to them by their parents
3. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are in no means required to
b. It is justifiably revoked in the regular course of international and/or national lawa. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother and father are citizens, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
4. Exceptions to clauses 1,2, and 3 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother and father's nationality differ from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother (and if not available, the father) to choose a single nationality for the child.
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but only use Jus Sanguinis. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenships, may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.i. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor with the same parents must be assigned all of the same citizenships
ii. Stillborn children must also be assigned citizenships in a ceremonial manorThe World Assembly,
Believing that all children, at birth, shall be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Affirming that children, at birth, shall not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are:1. Not citizens of, and
Acknowledging that children are also occasionally born in a nation of which their parents are not citizens but are residents of,
2. Not residents of, and
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. All children, regardless of their, their mother, and their father’s ethnicity and place of residence, shall automatically become citizens of the nation in whom’s territory they are born;
2. All children, if born in a nation that their parents are both not citizens of and not residents in, shall still be awarded their parent(s) citizenship(s) if:a. Such parent has citizenship in their nation of residence, and
3. All children, if born in a nation that their parents are non-citizens of but are residents of, shall also be awarded their parent(s) citizenship(s) if:
b. That citizenship in their nation of residence was granted due to their birth in that same nationa. Such parent received their citizenship due to their birth in that nation
4. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unlessa. Such person decides to voluntarily give up the citizenship of the nation they were born in or the citizenship given to them by their parents
5. This law shall go into effect exactly one year after its passage
b. The nation in which a child is born in revokes it under the following circumstances:i. Such child:
c. It is justifiably revoked in the regular course of international and/or national law1. Was born in a nation that their parents are both not citizens and not residents of
2. Received citizenship in another nation at birth through their parents
3. Had parents that have been found to purposely change the location of the child’s birth in order for such child to attain citizenship in another nation[/b]
by South St Maarten » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:12 am
Mancheseva City wrote:South St Maarten wrote:Thanks for the comment
You could perhaps say "Male biological parent" and "Female biological parent" to allow that possibility. But then again, that would assume one is male and one is female. Furthermore, I wrote this proposal with the intention of applying to humans. There are asexual-reproducing organisms on Earth, no? I didn't think this act would apply to them, too.
"I will not support a proposal that only applies to humans. This makes no sense in the diverse world that we live in."
OOC: Why can't you change it to "biological parents"? Like, what benefits does naming "mother and father" even bring? In my mind legislation should try to apply to as many species as possible (if only applying to humans is not absolutely necessary for it to work). I feel you're unnecessarily restricting yourself for no apparent reason.
Also a minor grammar thing - in clause 3 it should read "dual citizenship" without the hyphen
EDIT: Actually now that I think about it, "biological parents" would also be restrictive. And your "mother and father" also doesn't let a child have dual citizenship if it's the child of a gay couple, and technically should then receive the citizenship of both their parents but in this case won't because of this language. I would even argue that this might contradict GAR#457, which mandates that member states must grant exactly the same rights etc. to individuals of all sexualities and genders
Actually a simple fix would be to just state "parents" or even "legal guardians" to broaden the scope of this resolution significantly and make it more effective.
by South St Maarten » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:20 am
Daarwyrth wrote:Dame Maria vyn Nysen: "Ambassador, a question, if you will. Daarwyrth understands that when one of our citizens emigrates from our nation, their children would still have the right to be granted citizenship. One could imagine that that child would want to return to Daarwyrth, even if they weren't born there. However, if they choose not to return to Daarwyrth, and they eventually produce offspring, why should those children automatically receive Daarwyrthian citizenship? This proposal creates an endless line of inviduals that will be forced to be granted citizenship. Let me explain in a hypothetical scenario:
Alyxander is a citizen of Daarwyrth.
Alyxander emigrates to South St. Maarten.
Alyxander has a child, who per this resolution is granted citizenship of Daarwyrth.
Then that child has their own child, who per this resolution has to be granted Daarwyrthian citizenship.
Then that child similarly has children, who have to receive Daarwyrthian citizenship.
It creates an endless line of citizens who may never tread upon Daarwyrthian soil, nor have any connection with our nation, other than that an ancestor had been a citizen. Wouldn’t that drastically diminish the meaning of what it means to be a citizen, if all across the multiverse we will have citizens who may not even have heard of Daarwyrth?"
by South St Maarten » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:21 am
Brilliantly wrote:South St Maarten wrote:Good Morning Everyone, this one is now in its ninth draft. As always, comments are appreciated (and encouraged). Would especially appreciate thoughts on category & strength.
Thanks, South St Maarten
Citizenship And Birth Act
The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
This sounds fine when overviewed from a far, but there are potential flaws and this left out important details. The quote “ that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth. The word stateless dosen’t really fit in the proposal because there is no chance that a child will be left alone due to the location of their birth. The hospital staff, parents, extended family and even foster care can handle the baby. Otherwise this is a pretty good proposal protection children’s rights at birth.
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable,
Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless, and
Concluding that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation, hereby enacts as follows:1. In this resolution,
a. Jus sanguinis refers to a nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the citizenship of the mother and/or father.
2. All children of citizens of member nations, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen.
b. Age of majority shall be defined as an age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
3. Nations which prohibit dual-citizenship must defer enforcement of such policies until a dual citizen reaches the age of majority.
4. If the father and mother both have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless they are revoked or otherwise stripped in accordance with procedures set forth by law.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality of the mother and/or father.
2. Adolescence shall be defined as the age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
3. All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen.
4. If a child has citizenship in multiple nations, and one of such nations does not allow dual citizenship, upon adolescence, the child will be forced to choose only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.a. In such cases, nations that do not allow dual-citizenship are required to allow it until the child can choose to take only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.
5. If the father and mother both have an unknown identity, are stateless, or fit any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned, upon reaching adolescence, the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker
6. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing legislation from individual member nations.
7. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality of the mother and/or father.
2. Adolescence shall be defined as the age, set by each individual member nation, where a child takes on the full responsibilities of adulthood and furthermore assumes legal control over their actions and decisions.
3. All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother or their father is a citizen.
4. If a child has citizenship in multiple nations, and one of such nations does not allow dual citizenship, upon adolescence, the child will be forced to choose only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.a. In such cases, nations that do not allow dual-citizenship are required to allow it until the child can choose to take only such nation's citizenship or forfeit it.
5. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.a. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child will be assigned, upon reaching adolescence, the citizenship(s) of their primary caretaker
6. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing legislation from individual member nations.
7. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor and in the same member state must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
8. Nations may, in situations where the legal guardian of the child is not their biological mother or father for the entirety of their childhood, also grant the child, upon reaching adulthood, the citizenship of their guardian, but are by no means required to.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the nationality of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as a form of nationality law in which citizenship is determined by the location in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. All children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.b. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, Jus Soli will be instituted as a last resort.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing legislation from individual member nations.
6. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
7. Nations may institute a policy in which children are also awarded their father's citizenship(s), but only in the following circumstance:a. If the nation in which the mother is a citizen allows dual citizenship, and the nation in which the father is a citizen has decided to institute such a policy, then the child shall also attain the citizenship(s) of the father.
8. Nations may furthermore institute Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but only in the following circumstance:a. If the nation in which the mother is a citizen allows dual citizenship, and the nation in which the child was born has decided to institute such a policy, then the child shall also attain the citizenship(s) of the father.
9. Nations may, in situations where the legal guardian of the child is not their biological mother or father for the entirety of their childhood, also grant the child, upon reaching adulthood, the citizenship of their guardian, but are by no means required to.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nationality of the bloodline of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nation in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. In following Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.a. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, Jus Soli will be instituted as a last resort.
5. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing World Assembly legislation.
6. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
7. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
8. Nations may also institute a policy in which children may also be awarded their father's citizenship(s), but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in all nations of which their father is a citizen.
9. Nations may, in situations where the legal guardian of the child is not their biological mother or father for the entirety of their childhood, also grant the child, upon reaching adulthood, the citizenship of their guardian, but are by no means required to.
10. Exceptions to clauses 7 & 8 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother's nationality differs from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother to choose a single nationality for the child.
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, only use Jus Sanguinis, but require the child to be awarded the citizenship(s) of both parents. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenship(s), may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nationality of the bloodline of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nation in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. In following the principle of Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. If the mother has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, the child shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen.a. If the father also has an unknown identity, is stateless, or fits any other criteria that doesn't allow citizenship in any nation to be passed down to the child, Jus Soli will be instituted as a last resort.
4. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing World Assembly legislation.
5. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
6. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
7. Nations may also institute a policy in which children may also be awarded their father's citizenship(s), but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in all nations of which their father is a citizen.
8. Exceptions to clauses 6 & 7 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother's nationality differs from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother to choose a single nationality for the child.
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, only use Jus Sanguinis, but require the child to be awarded the citizenship(s) of both parents. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenship(s), may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are neither citizens nor residents of, or in which they are residents but not citizens,
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Noting that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness" in order to prevent member states from arbitrarily retracting citizenships or making individuals stateless,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. Jus Sanguinis shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nationality of the bloodline of the mother and/or father.
2. Jus Soli shall be defined as principle of nationality law in which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nation in which birth occurs, regardless of the parents' nationality.
3. In following the principle of Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen.
4. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless the loss of citizenship is handled in accordance of existing World Assembly legislation.
5. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
6. Nations may also institute a policy in which children may also be awarded their father's citizenship(s), but are by no means required to.a. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother is a citizen, along with citizenship in all nations of which their father is a citizen.
7. Exceptions to clauses 5 & 6 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother's nationality differs from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother to choose a single nationality for the child.
8. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor must be assigned the same citizenship(s).
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, only use Jus Sanguinis, but require the child to be awarded the citizenship(s) of both parents. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenship(s), may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.The World Assembly,
Affirming that all children, at birth, should be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Further Affirming that children, at birth, should not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are:1. Not citizens of, and
Acknowledging that children are also occasionally born in a nation of which their parents are not citizens but are residents of,
2. Not residents of, and
Realizing that this body has already taken action to reduce statelessness in GA Resolution #386, "Reducing Statelessness",
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. In following the principle of Jus Sanguinis, all children, regardless of their location of birth, shall be awarded;
a. Citizenship in all nations in which their mother is a citizen,
2. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless
b. Citizenship in all nations in which their father is a citizen;a. Such person decides to voluntarily give up the citizenship of the nation they were born in or the citizenship given to them by their parents
3. Nations may institute the principle of Jus Soli in conjunction with Jus Sanguinis, but are in no means required to
b. It is justifiably revoked in the regular course of international and/or national lawa. Children born in such nations will therefore be awarded citizenship in all nations of which their mother and father are citizens, along with citizenship in the nation they were born in.
4. Exceptions to clauses 1,2, and 3 are limited to the following:a. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but do use both Jus Sanguinis and Jus Soli. In cases where the mother and father's nationality differ from the nation of which the child was born in, the state may require the mother (and if not available, the father) to choose a single nationality for the child.
b. Select nations do not allow dual citizenship, but only use Jus Sanguinis. They, in a case where the father and mother have different or multiple citizenships, may require the mother to assign the child a single citizenship.i. All twins, triplets, etc. born in the same period of labor with the same parents must be assigned all of the same citizenships
ii. Stillborn children must also be assigned citizenships in a ceremonial manorThe World Assembly,
Believing that all children, at birth, shall be granted the privilege of citizenship in a nation,
Affirming that children, at birth, shall not be deemed stateless due to the location of their birth,
Understanding that the location and time at which a childbirth occurs is natural and unpredictable, and
Furthermore Realizing that children are intermittently born in a nation that their parents are:1. Not citizens of, and
Acknowledging that children are also occasionally born in a nation of which their parents are not citizens but are residents of,
2. Not residents of, and
Concerned that no legislation currently exists regarding the citizenship of such children,
Therefore Believing that the issue of foreign birth must be addressed in the form of international legislation,
Declares the following:1. All children, regardless of their, their mother, and their father’s ethnicity and place of residence, shall automatically become citizens of the nation in whom’s territory they are born;
2. All children, if born in a nation that their parents are both not citizens of and not residents in, shall still be awarded their parent(s) citizenship(s) if:a. Such parent has citizenship in their nation of residence, and
3. All children, if born in a nation that their parents are non-citizens of but are residents of, shall also be awarded their parent(s) citizenship(s) if:
b. That citizenship in their nation of residence was granted due to their birth in that same nationa. Such parent received their citizenship due to their birth in that nation
4. All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unlessa. Such person decides to voluntarily give up the citizenship of the nation they were born in or the citizenship given to them by their parents
5. This law shall go into effect exactly one year after its passage
b. The nation in which a child is born in revokes it under the following circumstances:i. Such child:
c. It is justifiably revoked in the regular course of international and/or national law1. Was born in a nation that their parents are both not citizens and not residents of
2. Received citizenship in another nation at birth through their parents
3. Had parents that have been found to purposely change the location of the child’s birth in order for such child to attain citizenship in another nation[/b]
by Daarwyrth » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:32 am
South St Maarten wrote:IC: Greetings ambassador,
You bring up a valid point. Both jus soli and jus sanguinis have their disadvantages, respectively. I've chosen to use jus sanguinis because I believe that it makes more sense than Jus Soli. However, there is a concern about everyone handing down citizenship forever and ever until the entire world is a 196-national.
However, what I would suggest is for your fair nation to not allow dual-citizenship, a decision which is accounted for within this treaty. Then, such citizens not living in your nation will be forced to accept only your citizenship or give it up. I'd assume that, say, a Daarwyrthian living in South St Maarten would much rather take Maartenian citizenship because it would allow them to participate in civic functions within their home. I'll admit this is not perfect, but no law pof citizenship is, and if your nation were to not allow dual-citizenship I believe it would significantly alleviate this issue.
- SSM
by Maowi » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:35 am
South St Maarten wrote:However, what I would suggest is for your fair nation to not allow dual-citizenship, a decision which is accounted for within this treaty. Then, such citizens not living in your nation will be forced to accept only your citizenship or give it up. I'd assume that, say, a Daarwyrthian living in South St Maarten would much rather take Maartenian citizenship because it would allow them to participate in civic functions within their home. I'll admit this is not perfect, but no law pof citizenship is, and if your nation were to not allow dual-citizenship I believe it would significantly alleviate this issue.
by Daarwyrth » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:44 am
Maowi wrote:South St Maarten wrote:However, what I would suggest is for your fair nation to not allow dual-citizenship, a decision which is accounted for within this treaty. Then, such citizens not living in your nation will be forced to accept only your citizenship or give it up. I'd assume that, say, a Daarwyrthian living in South St Maarten would much rather take Maartenian citizenship because it would allow them to participate in civic functions within their home. I'll admit this is not perfect, but no law pof citizenship is, and if your nation were to not allow dual-citizenship I believe it would significantly alleviate this issue.
"This comment reminded me of the possibility of member states setting a limit on the total number of citizenships their own citizens may hold - for example, they may allow dual citizenship, but no higher. Would the replacement of "dual citizenship" in clause 3 with "multiple citizenship" be a hindrance, do you believe, or would you be open to implementing such language?"
by South St Maarten » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:06 am
Maowi wrote:South St Maarten wrote:However, what I would suggest is for your fair nation to not allow dual-citizenship, a decision which is accounted for within this treaty. Then, such citizens not living in your nation will be forced to accept only your citizenship or give it up. I'd assume that, say, a Daarwyrthian living in South St Maarten would much rather take Maartenian citizenship because it would allow them to participate in civic functions within their home. I'll admit this is not perfect, but no law pof citizenship is, and if your nation were to not allow dual-citizenship I believe it would significantly alleviate this issue.
"This comment reminded me of the possibility of member states setting a limit on the total number of citizenships their own citizens may hold - for example, they may allow dual citizenship, but no higher. Would the replacement of "dual citizenship" in clause 3 with "multiple citizenship" be a hindrance, do you believe, or would you be open to implementing such language?"
Daarwyrth wrote:South St Maarten wrote:IC: Greetings ambassador,
You bring up a valid point. Both jus soli and jus sanguinis have their disadvantages, respectively. I've chosen to use jus sanguinis because I believe that it makes more sense than Jus Soli. However, there is a concern about everyone handing down citizenship forever and ever until the entire world is a 196-national.
However, what I would suggest is for your fair nation to not allow dual-citizenship, a decision which is accounted for within this treaty. Then, such citizens not living in your nation will be forced to accept only your citizenship or give it up. I'd assume that, say, a Daarwyrthian living in South St Maarten would much rather take Maartenian citizenship because it would allow them to participate in civic functions within their home. I'll admit this is not perfect, but no law pof citizenship is, and if your nation were to not allow dual-citizenship I believe it would significantly alleviate this issue.
- SSM
Dame Maria vyn Nysen: "Of course, I only took my nation as an example, I could imagine a similar problem arising for other member states as well. While what you propose as a solution does indeed alleviate the problem I spoke of, would it not be easier to add in a clause that allows a state to rescind the citizenship of person that is at least a fourth generation (or third/fifth, if deemed more appropriate) descendant of an emigrant, who has reached the age of majority and has not protested against their citizenship being revoked? So, in terms of the hypothetical scenario I spoke of earlier:
Alyxander emigrates from Daarwyrth to South St. Maarten, thus being a first generation emigrant.
Alyxander has a child, a second generation emigrant.
Alyxander's child has their own son or daughter, who is the third generation.
Then, that son or daughter has their own child, who is the fourth generation. Citizenship is granted to that child at birth, yet upon reaching the age of majority the 4th generation descendant receives a notification that their Daarwyrthian citizenship will be revoked, unless they object to this, and express their desire to keep their Daarwyrthian citizenship. Then, for every descendant that comes thereafter the same process would be repeated, until one of the descendants doesn't object, and citizenship is terminated. That way the cycle can be broken naturally, while still granting protection to children's citizenship, wouldn't you agree, Ambassador?"
Daarwyrth wrote:South St Maarten wrote:IC: Greetings ambassador,
You bring up a valid point. Both jus soli and jus sanguinis have their disadvantages, respectively. I've chosen to use jus sanguinis because I believe that it makes more sense than Jus Soli. However, there is a concern about everyone handing down citizenship forever and ever until the entire world is a 196-national.
However, what I would suggest is for your fair nation to not allow dual-citizenship, a decision which is accounted for within this treaty. Then, such citizens not living in your nation will be forced to accept only your citizenship or give it up. I'd assume that, say, a Daarwyrthian living in South St Maarten would much rather take Maartenian citizenship because it would allow them to participate in civic functions within their home. I'll admit this is not perfect, but no law pof citizenship is, and if your nation were to not allow dual-citizenship I believe it would significantly alleviate this issue.
- SSM
Dame Maria vyn Nysen: "Of course, I only took my nation as an example, I could imagine a similar problem arising for other member states as well. While what you propose as a solution does indeed alleviate the problem I spoke of, would it not be easier to add in a clause that allows a state to rescind the citizenship of person that is at least a fourth generation (or third/fifth, if deemed more appropriate) descendant of an emigrant, who has reached the age of majority and has not protested against their citizenship being revoked? So, in terms of the hypothetical scenario I spoke of earlier:
Alyxander emigrates from Daarwyrth to South St. Maarten, thus being a first generation emigrant.
Alyxander has a child, a second generation emigrant.
Alyxander's child has their own son or daughter, who is the third generation.
Then, that son or daughter has their own child, who is the fourth generation. Citizenship is granted to that child at birth, yet upon reaching the age of majority the 4th generation descendant receives a notification that their Daarwyrthian citizenship will be revoked, unless they object to this, and express their desire to keep their Daarwyrthian citizenship. Then, for every descendant that comes thereafter the same process would be repeated, until one of the descendants doesn't object, and citizenship is terminated. That way the cycle can be broken naturally, while still granting protection to children's citizenship, wouldn't you agree, Ambassador?"
by Daarwyrth » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:30 pm
South St Maarten wrote:1. Yes, I should replace dual with multiple. Will do so in Draft X.
2. What if there was a revision to clause 5 such as the following (just an example):
All children shall attain their citizenship(s) immediately at birth and must retain them in perpetuity, unless one of the following occurs:1. They are given up
2. They are revoked or otherwise stripped in accordance with procedures set forth by law.
3. If one of the multiple citizenships of a person has been passed down more than three generations without any of the three generations living in that nation, such nation reserves the right to terminate such citizenship when the fourth generation reaches the age of majority.
I know that is a run on sentence but I'll fix that. I'd appreciate your thoughts on that general idea
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