[ABANDONED] Repeal "Access to Abortion"

[Riverpost]

"If the majority of citizens knows where they can get a procedure done and once they reach that place, they can easily access said procedure, it is openly accessible even if it takes them months to reach that place because. That is how we interpret 'openly accessible'.

We're honestly not that sure about your second point because we honestly have no idea about its exact meaning and implication."

OOC: I'm kind of curious how the Access to Abortion resolution applies to non-human sapients, then. IRL, from species to species, periods of gestation can vary greatly. In the event that someone's hamster goes to found a massive empire and civilization here in Nationstates, they'd be unable to make a several months trip for a 16-23 day pregnancy. Is that really openly accessible for them?

Gosh that sounds so weird to say.

Edit: After thinking about it, they'd probably have a greater gestation period if they could get so far to form a coherent nation, but theoretically - it could still have some relevance.

[Ardiveds]

"If the majority of citizens knows where they can get a procedure done and once they reach that place, they can easily access said procedure, it is openly accessible even if it takes them months to reach that place because. That is how we interpret 'openly accessible'.

We're honestly not that sure about your second point because we honestly have no idea about its exact meaning and implication."

OOC: I'm kind of curious how the Access to Abortion resolution applies to non-human sapients, then. IRL, from species to species, periods of gestation can vary greatly. In the event that someone's hamster goes to found a massive empire and civilization here in Nationstates, they'd be unable to make a several months trip for a 16-23 day pregnancy. Is that really openly accessible for them?

Gosh that sounds so weird to say.

OOC: I guess the definition of 'speedily accessible' would depend on the species. The hamseter empire would need lots of abortion clinics. Though I guess manpower wouldn't be an issue since hamsters breed like... you know, hamsters...

[Marxist Germany]

OOC: Full support.

[Legolannd]

Ambassador Harrison stands

"My nation is pro-life and will always be. We will vote to repeal this bill. Our government will not fund abortions, they are banned in Legolannd."

"Ambassador, you have no reason to support this repeal then because you are already in violation of WA laws and if this repeal passes, you'll still be in violation of WA laws."

"Abortion has been illegal in Legolannd for 50 years. We will not break our laws to allow the murder of children."

[Riverpost]

"Ambassador, you have no reason to support this repeal then because you are already in violation of WA laws and if this repeal passes, you'll still be in violation of WA laws."

"Abortion has been illegal in Legolannd for 50 years. We will not break our laws to allow the murder of children."

"So what's your plan to make that statement true to your voters in the next election?"

[Attempted Socialism]

"Ambassador, you have no reason to support this repeal then because you are already in violation of WA laws and if this repeal passes, you'll still be in violation of WA laws."

"Abortion has been illegal in Legolannd for 50 years. We will not break our laws to allow the murder of children."

"So you are representing a country whose leaders are criminals and dishonest types, who apparently do not know the difference between 'foetus' and 'child', yet you think we should listen to what you think of laws you will not even uphold yourself?"

[Kenmoria]

“This repeal is looking better. However, on principle, I won’t support a repeal of GA #499. Minor flaws do not warrant the removal of effective legislation.”

"Ambassador, you have no reason to support this repeal then because you are already in violation of WA laws and if this repeal passes, you'll still be in violation of WA laws."

"Abortion has been illegal in Legolannd for 50 years. We will not break our laws to allow the murder of children."

(OOC: Consult the Administrative Compliance Act, and consider how it affects your nation. In the meantime, there is no incentive for anyone to change GA legislation to fit noncompliant states.)

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

WF offers its support for this.

[Lucius Caecilius Iucundus]

"We opposed 'Access to Abortion' when it came to a vote," recalled Quintus, "but we do not wish to see this come to a vote. In our opinion, the abortion issue is a dead issue, and we do not see the need to revisit this issue so frequently."

[Legolannd]

"Abortion has been illegal in Legolannd for 50 years. We will not break our laws to allow the murder of children."

"So you are representing a country whose leaders are criminals and dishonest types, who apparently do not know the difference between 'foetus' and 'child', yet you think we should listen to what you think of laws you will not even uphold yourself?"

"How dare call our leaders criminals? Abortion is illegal here, plain and simple. A fetus is a child, it is an unborn life, and we will not legalize the murder of it."

[Separatist Peoples]

"So you are representing a country whose leaders are criminals and dishonest types, who apparently do not know the difference between 'foetus' and 'child', yet you think we should listen to what you think of laws you will not even uphold yourself?"

"How dare call our leaders criminals? Abortion is illegal here, plain and simple. A fetus is a child, it is an unborn life, and we will not legalize the murder of it."

"Then your leaders are complicit in the violation of at least four WA Resolutions, constituting a crime under a fifth."

[Attempted Socialism]

"So you are representing a country whose leaders are criminals and dishonest types, who apparently do not know the difference between 'foetus' and 'child', yet you think we should listen to what you think of laws you will not even uphold yourself?"

"How dare call our leaders criminals? Abortion is illegal here, plain and simple. A fetus is a child, it is an unborn life, and we will not legalize the murder of it."

"As they are breaking the laws of your country, that you willingly signed up to when you joined the World Assembly, your leaders are by definition criminals. And you clearly don't know the proper meaning of the words involved, since a foetus is not a child, 'life' is meaningless and murder requires the illegal slaying of a person. This is sixth grade civics, I am surprised your legal staff have not told you. Again, given the abject criminality of your leaders, the dishonesty of your delegation and your lack of understanding of the topic, why should we let you influence laws you are deliberately breaking yourself?"

[Old Hope]

"How dare call our leaders criminals? Abortion is illegal here, plain and simple. A fetus is a child, it is an unborn life, and we will not legalize the murder of it."

"As they are breaking the laws of your country, that you willingly signed up to when you joined the World Assembly, your leaders are by definition criminals. And you clearly don't know the proper meaning of the words involved, since a foetus is not a child, 'life' is meaningless and murder requires the illegal slaying of a person. This is sixth grade civics, I am surprised your legal staff have not told you. Again, given the abject criminality of your leaders, the dishonesty of your delegation and your lack of understanding of the topic, why should we let you influence laws you are deliberately breaking yourself?"

Would YOU comply with a theoretical resolution that bans nearly all abortions?

[Godular]

"As they are breaking the laws of your country, that you willingly signed up to when you joined the World Assembly, your leaders are by definition criminals. And you clearly don't know the proper meaning of the words involved, since a foetus is not a child, 'life' is meaningless and murder requires the illegal slaying of a person. This is sixth grade civics, I am surprised your legal staff have not told you. Again, given the abject criminality of your leaders, the dishonesty of your delegation and your lack of understanding of the topic, why should we let you influence laws you are deliberately breaking yourself?"

Would YOU comply with a theoretical resolution that bans nearly all abortions?

“Oh, don’t be silly! That would be illegal due to contradiction of existing legislation!”

[Separatist Peoples]

"As they are breaking the laws of your country, that you willingly signed up to when you joined the World Assembly, your leaders are by definition criminals. And you clearly don't know the proper meaning of the words involved, since a foetus is not a child, 'life' is meaningless and murder requires the illegal slaying of a person. This is sixth grade civics, I am surprised your legal staff have not told you. Again, given the abject criminality of your leaders, the dishonesty of your delegation and your lack of understanding of the topic, why should we let you influence laws you are deliberately breaking yourself?"

Would YOU comply with a theoretical resolution that bans nearly all abortions?

"Were my nation unable to comply, we would resign. If governments are disinterested in compliance despite the benefits of membership, they can resign. This is a false dichotomy."

[Attempted Socialism]

"As they are breaking the laws of your country, that you willingly signed up to when you joined the World Assembly, your leaders are by definition criminals. And you clearly don't know the proper meaning of the words involved, since a foetus is not a child, 'life' is meaningless and murder requires the illegal slaying of a person. This is sixth grade civics, I am surprised your legal staff have not told you. Again, given the abject criminality of your leaders, the dishonesty of your delegation and your lack of understanding of the topic, why should we let you influence laws you are deliberately breaking yourself?"

Would YOU comply with a theoretical resolution that bans nearly all abortions?

"If it was airtight, the Solidarity Movement would reevaluate our World Assembly membership and international obligations. That could include resigning to avoid enslaving women or working to repeal such a resolution. It would not include our delegation continuously shouting that we are criminals by breaking clearly established laws."

[Dutha Gropi]

All for it.

[Thepeopl]

Worried that any abortion client who can't access an abortion clinic in a 'speedily accessible' manor can request and expect to be flown to any country of

See the word in bold
House?
Manner I think.

[Wallenburg]

Worried that any abortion client who can't access an abortion clinic in a 'speedily accessible' manor can request and expect to be flown to any country of

See the word in bold
House?
Manner I think.

The plan was to make the clinics quite ritzy, but sacrifices had to be made.

[Refuge Isle]

Confused by Article 4a's requirement that members fully fund all treatment and transportation expenses to those who wish to access a clinic outside of the nation, in light of GA#456 Freedom to Seek Medical Care II's requirement that those who seek medical treatment abroad must arrange for and fund such treatment themselves,

The repeal of #456 may render this argument moot.

[Comfed]

“You are all concerned about your economies! What nonsense! We have a terrible economy, no investment, and massive deficit, but if we want something built, all we need is a purge to get some forced labour inmates!”

[Hanshire]

Ambassador Harrison stands

"My nation is pro-life and will always be. We will vote to repeal this bill. Our government will not fund abortions, they are banned in Legolannd."

From the Desk of Daphanie Heenan, Head of Foreign Relations:

Abortion is against the will of the gods and defying them is blasphemous. We must protect the unborn from these baby killers.

May the Empress Bless You All.

[Separatist Peoples]

Ambassador Harrison stands

"My nation is pro-life and will always be. We will vote to repeal this bill. Our government will not fund abortions, they are banned in Legolannd."

From the Desk of Daphanie Heenan, Head of Foreign Relations:

Abortion is against the will of the gods and defying them is blasphemous. We must protect the unborn from these baby killers.

May the Empress Bless You All.

"Boy are you folks sure late to the party."

[Ardiveds]

From the Desk of Daphanie Heenan, Head of Foreign Relations:

Abortion is against the will of the gods and defying them is blasphemous. We must protect the unborn from these baby killers.

May the Empress Bless You All.

"Boy are you folks sure late to the party."

"Ambassador, you'll be surprised how many people believe this was the resolution that legalized abortion. It's like they were living under some rock when RF passed."

[Separatist Peoples]

"Boy are you folks sure late to the party."

"Ambassador, you'll be surprised how many people believe this was the resolution that legalized abortion. It's like they were living under some rock when RF passed."

"I think, based on my long tenure, you would find me significantly less surprised than you may think."