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[PASSED] Repeal "Promotion of Recycling"

Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:21 am

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Category: Repeal
Target: 483
Proposed by: Honeydewistania

"General Assembly Resolution #483 "Promotion Of Recycling" (Category: Environmental; Industry Affected: All Businesses - Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void."

The General Assembly,

Acknowledging and praising GAR#483 for its attempt to promote recycling of materials, thereby reducing waste;

Disappointed, however, at the numerous critical flaws in GAR#483 that render it unable to achieve its commendable goal;

Annoyed at the garbled language littered throughout GAR#483, rendering clauses incoherent and unable to be enforced even in good faith, such as clause 3’s bizarre phrasing 'the usage of through recycling recovered materials';

Concerned that despite defining ‘recyclable waste material’ in Clause 1(a), the term is not used in Clause 2(b), which as a result mandates that member nations implement separate systems to collect all refuse containing even a small portion of recyclable material;

Further concerned that this mandate is infeasible and incredibly costly, as it arguably requires the collection of goods that are:
  1. a serious environmental, occupational or processing hazard;
  2. extremely difficult or expensive to salvage or recycle; or
  3. of incredibly low use in a member nation's economy;

Irritated by the resolution's apparent insistence on domestic handling of all materials, without any allowance made for possible trade or transshipment of recyclable waste products to reduce costs among all member states;

Saddened by the resolution’s lack of insistence on full upgrade and update measures for nations claiming to have recycling programs already in place, allowing pre-existing substandard recycling programs to pass without penalty; and

Hoping that by repealing this legislation, a more effective resolution to promote good recycling practices can be passed;

Hereby repeals General Assembly Resolution 483, "Promotion Of Recycling."

Co-authored by Sierra Lyricalia.


Replacement currently in the works right now, will be released in a few days. Leave comments below. (even: this is crap!!!!)
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:07 pm

Update: Kenmoria and I are working on a replacement, it’ll be posted when done
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:24 pm

“I think you wanted ‘bizarre’ rather than ‘blizzard’ in the ‘irritated’ clause.”
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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:17 pm

Kenmoria wrote:“I think you wanted ‘bizarre’ rather than ‘blizzard’ in the ‘irritated’ clause.”

Done.


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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:52 am

Leo clears his throat briefly and stands to address the central podium. "I believe you've got most of what needs mentioning in here, Ambassador. My interns were frankly shitty at getting me the messages you left my office; my apologies for that. I would suggest adding back in the piece about trade or transshipment, that was present in our previous draft. If one member state has an existing program for recycling certain materials that would be simply discarded in another member state, that other state will likely find it cheaper to pay the first state to recycle those materials, than to create its own program from scratch. Protections against exploitation - for example, where poorer nations host quick-and-dirty recycling operations for a disproportionate load of electronic waste to the detriment of their environment and public health, or else simply take it and pile it up in great toxic mounds - would be good fodder for a separate resolution."
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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:23 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Leo clears his throat briefly and stands to address the central podium. "I believe you've got most of what needs mentioning in here, Ambassador. My interns were frankly shitty at getting me the messages you left my office; my apologies for that. I would suggest adding back in the piece about trade or transshipment, that was present in our previous draft. If one member state has an existing program for recycling certain materials that would be simply discarded in another member state, that other state will likely find it cheaper to pay the first state to recycle those materials, than to create its own program from scratch. Protections against exploitation - for example, where poorer nations host quick-and-dirty recycling operations for a disproportionate load of electronic waste to the detriment of their environment and public health, or else simply take it and pile it up in great toxic mounds - would be good fodder for a separate resolution."

"Thank you for the suggestion, Ambassador Leo."
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:45 pm

Planning on submitting this in around a week, maybe earlier depending on further comments
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I plan to submit this either 5pm GMT Wednesday or 5am GMT Thursday
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:38 am

“In subclause 1, a ‘negligible’ environmental hazard wouldn’t do any harm. I think you mean a serious hazard.”
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Kenmoria wrote:“In subclause 1, a ‘negligible’ environmental hazard wouldn’t do any harm. I think you mean a serious hazard.”

"We did indeed mean that. Will be changed soon."
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:12 am

OOC: I would make the following changes for language clarity/flow:

Honeydewistania wrote:Concerned that despite defining ‘recyclable waste material’ in Clause 1(a), the term is not used in Clause 2(b), which as a result mandates that member nations must implement collection systems to recycle all materials; [underline added]

Further concerned that mandating as such is incredibly unfeasible and costly this mandate is infeasible and incredibly costly, as it could mean mandating arguably requires the collection and possible recycling of goods that are:...
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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:14 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:OOC: I would make the following changes for language clarity/flow:

Honeydewistania wrote:Concerned that despite defining ‘recyclable waste material’ in Clause 1(a), the term is not used in Clause 2(b), which as a result mandates that member nations must implement collection systems to recycle all materials; [underline added]

Further concerned that mandating as such is incredibly unfeasible and costly this mandate is infeasible and incredibly costly, as it could mean mandating arguably requires the collection and possible recycling of goods that are:...

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"As a nation that maintains a portentous dislike of the WA's basically supranational resolutions, we support nearly all repeals -- especially those written well, such as yours, Ambassador. We shall therefore be voting FOR this resolution."
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Postby Lime82 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:54 pm

"This is a well written repeal which highlights the shortcomings of GAR#483. We will support the repeal in the hopes that a better proposal can be produced and ultimately implemented.
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"If there are no further comments, this will be submitted at minor"
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Postby Bananaistan » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:36 am

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Concerned that despite defining ‘recyclable waste material’ in Clause 1(a), the term is not used in Clause 2(b), which as a result mandates that member nations implement collection systems to recycle all materials;


I don't think this clause 2(b) actually mandates that all materials are recycled or collected for recycling. It specifically states that "recyclable materials and salvageable objects" are the subject of the collection system. "Recyclable materials and salvageable objects" =/= "all materials".
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Bananaistan wrote:OOC:

Concerned that despite defining ‘recyclable waste material’ in Clause 1(a), the term is not used in Clause 2(b), which as a result mandates that member nations implement collection systems to recycle all materials;


I don't think this clause 2(b) actually mandates that all materials are recycled or collected for recycling. It specifically states that "recyclable materials and salvageable objects" are the subject of the collection system. "Recyclable materials and salvageable objects" =/= "all materials".

I’ll change it to all recyclable materials
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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:46 am

I will not be submitting at minor. I have edited a bit, please leave your comments below (if you can point out a potential HM or other rules violation, that'd be great too)
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Postby Kenmoria » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:50 am

(OOC: This is incredibly minor, but you have a mixture of curly and straight quotation marks throughout the proposal. I suggest standardising.)
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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:52 am

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: This is incredibly minor, but you have a mixture of curly and straight quotation marks throughout the proposal. I suggest standardising.)

Mobile is annoying. It'll be fixed.
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Postby Bananaistan » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:32 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:OOC:

Concerned that despite defining ‘recyclable waste material’ in Clause 1(a), the term is not used in Clause 2(b), which as a result mandates that member nations implement collection systems to recycle all materials;


I don't think this clause 2(b) actually mandates that all materials are recycled or collected for recycling. It specifically states that "recyclable materials and salvageable objects" are the subject of the collection system. "Recyclable materials and salvageable objects" =/= "all materials".

I’ll change it to all recyclable materials


OOC: Is there a reason why a requirement to collect all recyclable materials is a problem in a resolution to promote recycling?
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Bananaistan wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:I’ll change it to all recyclable materials


OOC: Is there a reason why a requirement to collect all recyclable materials is a problem in a resolution to promote recycling?


Many materials are able to be recycled. However, doing so can be incredibly expensive, since recycling is a very expensive process. You'll end up collecting everything that could possibly be recycled, and even if you end up throwing away everything you collect you still would had wasted lots of money. This is especially important for this resolution, since it allows subpar existing recycling systems to continue their subpar existence, and if it's very environmentally unfriendly/expensive then there's a problem.
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How's it now?
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Honeydewistania wrote:How's it now?

OOC: Won't have time to check it or your other ones until evening, sorry, but I'm adding them all on my To Do list so I don't forget!
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:25 am

Araraukar wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:How's it now?

OOC: Won't have time to check it or your other ones until evening, sorry, but I'm adding them all on my To Do list so I don't forget!

Heh, thanks.
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