Current Proposal At Vote

[Atheris]

I'm not an authoritarian, or one-world. I respect national boundaries and I'm very much a social democrat. I've said I advocate for authoritarian dictatorship in some countries, but only if it keeps the country together, a la SFR Yugoslavia.

Wow, I'm totally surprised that the socialist authoritarian one-worlder wants to keep a Communist dictatorship under Communist rule.

Flaming, and the SFR Yugoslavia was, in all honestly, neither communist nor pro-western under Tito. It was more akin to modern China minus the crimes against humanity (until 1992 obviously) and the privatization.

Also, the WA should very much be able to influence domestic politics. It's based off of The Organization That Shall Not Be Named, which directly influences member nation's domestic politics IRL. Saying the WA shouldn't be able to influence domestic politics is akin to saying that the US federal government shouldn't be able to influence state law.

To compare the role of a nation with the role of the WA just further shows your one-world tendencies. Nations are the only sovereign entities. States are arbitrary subdivisions used to better govern different regions within the nation. Now, you used the US federal government as a counterexample, but in fact the federal government shouldn't have any influence on state law according to the Constitution. Activist judges on the Supreme Court changed that over the years, and I'll be damned if I idly watch the same thing occur on an international level.

1. Again, flaming, and ad hominem. I've stated that I'm not a one-worlder. I've merely said a hypothetical that if I had to choose.

2. The Constitution was specifically made to let the government exert more power over the states. Read Article Four of the Constitution.

If you don't want to abide by WA law, then leave the WA. It's second grade.

That's patently ridiculous. You don't leave an organization just because you disagree with one rule, especially when that rule isn't even going to pass. I envision the WA as an institution governing only international relations, and I intend to use my vote to make that vision a reality.

Read GA#2.

"Article 1 § Every WA Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers, including the choice of its own form of government.

Article 2 § Every WA Member State has the right to exercise jurisdiction over its territory and over all persons and things therein, subject to the immunities recognized by international law.

Article 3 § Every WA Member State has the duty to refrain from unrequested intervention in the internal or external economic, political, religious, and social affairs of any other NationState, subject to the immunities recognized by international law."

"Article 9 § Every WA Member State has the duty to carry out in good faith its obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law, including this World Assembly, and it may not invoke provisions in its constitution or its laws as an excuse for failure to perform this duty."

Performing in good faith towards international law is required to stay in the WA. If you don't like the WA's laws, then you leave. It's like the League of Nations, except the WA actually gets stuff done.

[Zurkerx]

What do you mean by my type? WA Delegates? I'm only the delegate for Ealdgeriht because it was at risk of being raided.

It's honestly very simple. If you don't want to abide by WA law, then don't join the WA.

By your type, I mean authoritarian one-world fucks who don't respect national sovereignty.

At no point did OP say he doesn't want to abide by WA law. He said that WA law shouldn't govern the domestic affairs of countries, which is a very valid point.

I'm not an authoritarian, or one-world. I respect national boundaries and I'm very much a social democrat. I've said I advocate for authoritarian dictatorship in some countries, but only if it keeps the country together, a la SFR Yugoslavia.

Wow, I'm totally surprised that the socialist authoritarian one-worlder wants to keep a Communist dictatorship under Communist rule.

I see you are new here so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't read the rules on this site yet. But flaming is not welcome here so I'm going to give you an Unofficial Warning for flaming. I suggest you go read up on the rules here and familiarize yourself with them.

[Atheris]

By your type, I mean authoritarian one-world fucks who don't respect national sovereignty.

At no point did OP say he doesn't want to abide by WA law. He said that WA law shouldn't govern the domestic affairs of countries, which is a very valid point.

Wow, I'm totally surprised that the socialist authoritarian one-worlder wants to keep a Communist dictatorship under Communist rule.

I see you are new here so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't read the rules on this site yet. But flaming is not welcome here so I'm going to give you an Unofficial Warning for flaming. I suggest you go read up on the rules here and familiarize yourself with them.

Thank you, Zurkerx. *leaves 1 I.O.U*

[Shazbotdom]

Hey Ethnic, how long have you been here? You don't seem to understand much about the WA. You should leave the WA if you don't want to abide by it, because in OP's case I am sure virtually every law will be against them. I don't even think you understand the point of what Atheris said.

Nice talking point that I've already addressed twice now. You just want people who disagree with you to leave the WA so that you can mold the WA at will.

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I don't know how many times this has to be explained. But apparently it does.

[Ethnic Nations]

Advancing what you believe is right without the intention to do so can be considered domestic.

This sentence is completely nonsensical. Please try again in English.

2. The Constitution was specifically made to let the government exert more power over the states. Read Article Four of the Constitution.

The Constitution was made to increase the power of the federal government in external and interstate affairs, not in the domestic affairs of each state. These powers are specified as the enumerated powers of Article 1 of the Constitution. Article 4 also relates to interstate and foreign affairs.

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I don't know how many times this has to be explained. But apparently it does.

I fail to see how this strawman can be repeated over and over again when I have never once stated that I don't intend to follow WA resolutions.

[Shazbotdom]

Advancing what you believe is right without the intention to do so can be considered domestic.

This sentence is completely nonsensical. Please try again in English.

2. The Constitution was specifically made to let the government exert more power over the states. Read Article Four of the Constitution.

The Constitution was made to increase the power of the federal government in external and interstate affairs, not in the domestic affairs of each state. These powers are specified as the enumerated powers of Article 1 of the Constitution. Article 4 also relates to interstate and foreign affairs.

You.
Do.
Not.
Have.
To.
Follow.
World Assembly.
Resolutions.
If.
You.
Are.
Not.
In.
The.
World Assembly.


I don't know how many times this has to be explained. But apparently it does.

I fail to see how this strawman can be repeated over and over again when I have never once stated that I don't intend to follow WA resolutions.

Seeing as your main complaint, as well as the opie's mean complaint, is that you have to follow them while not a member, it needs to be repeated.

I am, though, glad that you have shied away from personal insults. At least you're learning to follow the actual rules of the forum.

[Ethnic Nations]

Seeing as your main complaint, as well as the opie's mean complaint, is that you have to follow them while not a member, it needs to be repeated.

Neither of us complained about that. It literally never happened.

[Shazbotdom]

Neither of us complained about that. It literally never happened.

Then don't join the WA.

But I would still have to follow WA laws even if I'm not in, so the best thing I can do is vote against it.

Erm.

He did. So saying "it never happened" is a load of bullshit.

[Ethnic Nations]

Oops, I didn't see his second post. Don't I look like an idiot.