by Stellonia » Sun May 10, 2020 12:14 pm
by Kenmoria » Sun May 10, 2020 12:21 pm
by Stellonia » Sun May 10, 2020 12:25 pm
Kenmoria wrote:“Preventing the Execution of Innocents already implements what is almost a complete ban on capital punishment. I personally can’t imagine that the General Assembly will be in favour of further restrictions. This is because there is a large faction of this Assembly that feels the need to continue using such barbaric penalties.”
by Kenmoria » Sun May 10, 2020 12:29 pm
Stellonia wrote:Kenmoria wrote:“Preventing the Execution of Innocents already implements what is almost a complete ban on capital punishment. I personally can’t imagine that the General Assembly will be in favour of further restrictions. This is because there is a large faction of this Assembly that feels the need to continue using such barbaric penalties.”
"How large is this faction?"
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by Stellonia » Sun May 10, 2020 6:32 pm
Tinfect wrote:OOC:
Don't bother; you'd have as much chance of repealing NAPA as passing something like this.
by The Sladerstan » Sun May 10, 2020 6:42 pm
by WayNeacTia » Sun May 10, 2020 7:51 pm
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Wallenburg » Sun May 10, 2020 11:14 pm
by WayNeacTia » Mon May 11, 2020 1:24 am
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Ignis Cinere » Mon May 11, 2020 7:14 am
by Jakit » Mon May 11, 2020 7:19 am
Stellonia wrote:UNDERSTANDING that some crimes are so egregious as to deserve capital punishment, but nevertheless
RECOGNIZING that capital punishment is irrevocable once it is applied,
FEARING that this could result in the execution of innocent individual, and
ADHERING to the principle that it is worse to execute one innocent individual than it is to permit a hundred guilty individuals to live,
THE WORLD ASSEMBLY HEREBY
1. PROHIBITS member states from inflicting capital punishment,
2. PROHIBITS member states from inflicting forms of punishment that are likely to endanger the lives of individuals who are thus punished,
3. REQUIRES member states to revoke any current death sentences,
4. PERMITS member states to implement lesser punishments in the stead of these death sentences, and
5. ENCOURAGES member states to establish commissions to investigate previous cases in which capital punishment was applied, in order to establish whether or not the executed individual was indeed guilty of the crimes for which they were executed.
by Separatist Peoples » Mon May 11, 2020 7:23 am
Jakit wrote:Stellonia wrote:UNDERSTANDING that some crimes are so egregious as to deserve capital punishment, but nevertheless
RECOGNIZING that capital punishment is irrevocable once it is applied,
FEARING that this could result in the execution of innocent individual, and
ADHERING to the principle that it is worse to execute one innocent individual than it is to permit a hundred guilty individuals to live,
THE WORLD ASSEMBLY HEREBY
1. PROHIBITS member states from inflicting capital punishment,
2. PROHIBITS member states from inflicting forms of punishment that are likely to endanger the lives of individuals who are thus punished,
3. REQUIRES member states to revoke any current death sentences,
4. PERMITS member states to implement lesser punishments in the stead of these death sentences, and
5. ENCOURAGES member states to establish commissions to investigate previous cases in which capital punishment was applied, in order to establish whether or not the executed individual was indeed guilty of the crimes for which they were executed.
I agree that killing innocent people is not good but we need to give criminals the punishment they deserve so to avoid killing innocent people we need to strengthen and improve our police force. Its the better option.
by Picairn » Mon May 11, 2020 7:29 am
by Galvaleon » Mon May 11, 2020 7:44 am
by Ardiveds » Mon May 11, 2020 9:49 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 11, 2020 12:11 pm
by Kathol Rift » Mon May 11, 2020 12:14 pm
by Sierra Lyricalia » Mon May 11, 2020 12:18 pm
Ardiveds wrote:A person who shows mercy on a serial rapist is no better than the criminal himself."
by United Massachusetts » Mon May 11, 2020 12:27 pm
Tinfect wrote:OOC:
Don't bother; you'd have as much chance of repealing NAPA as passing something like this.
by Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Mon May 11, 2020 1:20 pm
Subject to World Assembly legislation, member nations are permitted to sentence and carry out capital punishment within their jurisdictions.
by Kenmoria » Mon May 11, 2020 1:23 pm
Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:I believe this does in fact contradict existing WA legislation, namely GAR#443: Preventing the Execution of Innocents, its para. 1 to be specific.Subject to World Assembly legislation, member nations are permitted to sentence and carry out capital punishment within their jurisdictions.
"Subject to World Assembly legislation" does indeed include future legislation, such as this one, but in my opinion WA is absolutely forbidden from issuing a complete ban on the capital punishment. It can only issue further limitations on the practice. Full ban would mean that the member nations would simply no longer be permitted to sentence for death penalty, not even "subject to WA legislation".
Death penalty is a good and humanitarian alternative to a life sentence without parole. I consider the latter to be a harsher penalty actually, as it deprives a person of liberty and forces them to life in a prison for the rest of their life, which will be rather miserable. Death penalty is a swifter punishment and fulfills the same role. It is also regulated by WA law very heavily already, the whole attention is given to and at the same time long-term imprisonment is treated as a non-issue.
by Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 11, 2020 1:38 pm
Kenmoria wrote:Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:I believe this does in fact contradict existing WA legislation, namely GAR#443: Preventing the Execution of Innocents, its para. 1 to be specific.
"Subject to World Assembly legislation" does indeed include future legislation, such as this one, but in my opinion WA is absolutely forbidden from issuing a complete ban on the capital punishment. It can only issue further limitations on the practice. Full ban would mean that the member nations would simply no longer be permitted to sentence for death penalty, not even "subject to WA legislation".
Death penalty is a good and humanitarian alternative to a life sentence without parole. I consider the latter to be a harsher penalty actually, as it deprives a person of liberty and forces them to life in a prison for the rest of their life, which will be rather miserable. Death penalty is a swifter punishment and fulfills the same role. It is also regulated by WA law very heavily already, the whole attention is given to and at the same time long-term imprisonment is treated as a non-issue.
(OOC: I disagree with your interpretation. Member nations are only permitted to sentence and carry out capital punishment so far as WA legislation allows. This means that, if there is a resolution completely banning capital punishment, then member nations would still be permitted to use the death penalty to the extent permitted by WA law; the fact that this would be not at all is immaterial.)
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