[DRAFT] Legalize Birth Control

[Stellonia]

OOC: Go tell your WA delegate to approve the proposal. If you are a WA delegate, then approve it. Please and thank you.

[Imperium Anglorum]

PROHIBITS member states from... compelling individuals under their jurisdiction to either use or abstain from using any forms of birth control, except in cases where an individual is known or likely to have a sexually transmitted infection,

Seems to me to confuse birth control broadly with condoms. A requirement that someone takes the pill, for example, would have no effect on whether STIs are transmitted from a rational basis perspective.

[Stellonia]

PROHIBITS member states from... compelling individuals under their jurisdiction to either use or abstain from using any forms of birth control, except in cases where an individual is known or likely to have a sexually transmitted infection,

Seems to me to confuse birth control broadly with condoms. A requirement that someone takes the pill, for example, would have no effect on whether STIs are transmitted from a rational basis perspective.

"This is, admittedly, imperfect wording, but we do not see why a government would compel its citizens to use birth control pills to prevent them from spreading STIs."

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

The use of birth control is evil in the eyes of the Lord, as outlined in the Bible. 'Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord; so He took his life also.' (Genesis 38:8-10 NASB)

"This passage refers not to birth control in general, but rather to a specific act of birth control in which Judah defied God's commandment to impregnate his brother's wife. At the present moment, God does not command us to impregnate anyone, so we do not derelict our duties by failing to do so.

I feel compelled to remind the Honourable Representative of the Federated States of Stellonia that the Lord very much does command us to do so. As shown in Genesis 1:28 (NASB), God does tell humans to procreate: "God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply'". The Holy Empire of Pope Saint Peter the Apostle will follow the Scripture as explained by the Holy Roman Catholic Church since its founding.

We add that sentiments like yours regarding birth control are the precise reason we have decided to issue this proposal."

Well, our Holy Empire does not require a moral teaching from another country (only the Lord is our Teacher), especially not a country that allows torture.

--Saint Gerard Majella, C.Ss.R., patron of the unborn children
Senior consuasor ad Sancti Imperium

[Kenmoria]

"This passage refers not to birth control in general, but rather to a specific act of birth control in which Judah defied God's commandment to impregnate his brother's wife. At the present moment, God does not command us to impregnate anyone, so we do not derelict our duties by failing to do so.

I feel compelled to remind the Honourable Representative of the Federated States of Stellonia that the Lord very much does command us to do so. As shown in Genesis 1:28 (NASB), God does tell humans to procreate: "God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply'". The Holy Empire of Pope Saint Peter the Apostle will follow the Scripture as explained by the Holy Roman Catholic Church since its founding.

We add that sentiments like yours regarding birth control are the precise reason we have decided to issue this proposal."

Well, our Holy Empire does not require a moral teaching from another country (only the Lord is our Teacher), especially not a country that allows torture.

--Saint Gerard Majella, C.Ss.R., patron of the unborn children
Senior consuasor ad Sancti Imperium

“Whether or not your nation’s ‘Lord’ has any moral teachings to offer, this proposal will impel you to legalise birth control upon its passage. I will also add that torture has been prohibited by extant GA law, so you don’t have to worry about that.”

[Pope Saint Peter the Apostle]

“Whether or not your nation’s ‘Lord’ has any moral teachings to offer, this proposal will impel you to legalise birth control upon its passage. I will also add that torture has been prohibited by extant GA law, so you don’t have to worry about that.”

Which is why the Holy Empire seeks to prevent its passage. Of course, if passed, we will comply, although we will impose the necessary safety requirements, questionnaires, waiting periods, permit requirements for shops, and other methods to guarantee absolute safety. I am grateful that the Proposal allows us to do so; after all, birth control is not of "similar nature" as any other medicine we sell (its function is unique), meaning we can set whatever "legal and regulatory standards" we see fit. It's the same way that we guarantee absolute safety with regards to abortion; the fact that we have only two abortions each year is a very unfortunate consequence.

--Saint Gerard Majella, C.Ss.R., patron of the unborn children
Senior consuasor ad Sancti Imperium

[Separatist Peoples]

“Whether or not your nation’s ‘Lord’ has any moral teachings to offer, this proposal will impel you to legalise birth control upon its passage. I will also add that torture has been prohibited by extant GA law, so you don’t have to worry about that.”

Which is why the Holy Empire seeks to prevent its passage. Of course, if passed, we will comply, although we will impose the necessary safety requirements, questionnaires, waiting periods, permit requirements for shops, and other methods to guarantee absolute safety. I am grateful that the Proposal allows us to do so; after all, birth control is not of "similar nature" as any other medicine we sell (its function is unique), meaning we can set whatever "legal and regulatory standards" we see fit. It's the same way that we guarantee absolute safety with regards to abortion; the fact that we have only two abortions each year is a very unfortunate consequence.

--Saint Gerard Majella, C.Ss.R., patron of the unborn children
Senior consuasor ad Sancti Imperium

Bell chuckles from his desk, "Wait for it, ambassador."

[Wallenburg]

“Whether or not your nation’s ‘Lord’ has any moral teachings to offer, this proposal will impel you to legalise birth control upon its passage. I will also add that torture has been prohibited by extant GA law, so you don’t have to worry about that.”

Which is why the Holy Empire seeks to prevent its passage. Of course, if passed, we will comply, although we will impose the necessary safety requirements, questionnaires, waiting periods, permit requirements for shops, and other methods to guarantee absolute safety. I am grateful that the Proposal allows us to do so; after all, birth control is not of "similar nature" as any other medicine we sell (its function is unique), meaning we can set whatever "legal and regulatory standards" we see fit. It's the same way that we guarantee absolute safety with regards to abortion; the fact that we have only two abortions each year is a very unfortunate consequence.

--Saint Gerard Majella, C.Ss.R., patron of the unborn children
Senior consuasor ad Sancti Imperium

OOC: Look, if you're going to violate WA law, at least have the decency not to shit over the hard work of WA authors with such lazy, bad-faith misinterpretations.

[Stellonia]

OOC: I think this is on course to fail.

[Stellonia]

OOC: I think this is on course to fail.

Indeed it did. I shall make some changes and submit it again.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

“Whether or not your nation’s ‘Lord’ has any moral teachings to offer, this proposal will impel you to legalise birth control upon its passage. I will also add that torture has been prohibited by extant GA law, so you don’t have to worry about that.”

Which is why the Holy Empire seeks to prevent its passage. Of course, if passed, we will comply, although we will impose the necessary safety requirements, questionnaires, waiting periods, permit requirements for shops, and other methods to guarantee absolute safety. I am grateful that the Proposal allows us to do so; after all, birth control is not of "similar nature" as any other medicine we sell (its function is unique), meaning we can set whatever "legal and regulatory standards" we see fit. It's the same way that we guarantee absolute safety with regards to abortion; the fact that we have only two abortions each year is a very unfortunate consequence.

--Saint Gerard Majella, C.Ss.R., patron of the unborn children
Senior consuasor ad Sancti Imperium

>waiting periods to buy a condom
Wew lad.

[Stellonia]

>waiting periods to buy a condom
Wew lad.

OOC: Where did you get that idea?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

>waiting periods to buy a condom
Wew lad.

OOC: Where did you get that idea?

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[Agarntrop 2]

"Full support. Frankly it is absurd that some here think that forced legalisation abortion is more important, more worthy and more moral than this."