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Postby HypErcApitAl » Wed May 06, 2020 4:43 pm

Because of how Hypercap. works, Nudism couldn't be passed into law/systems. It's just smiled-upon, though.
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Postby Kathol Rift » Wed May 06, 2020 4:45 pm

Wanarpu wrote:
The Sladerstan wrote:Even if it passes I won't allow it! Doubt it will though... if people want to be naked, they can do so in their house. Clothing is necessary, especially in a nation with colder climates (like The Sladerstan). You're not taking into account the different climates of nations. What if a nation existed in Antarctica? What if they existed in Space? Or another planet which requires the citizens to wear suits?

This is a dry resolution I'm against.



Again, the focus of the legislation is changing to legalization rather than mandate. This way, for nations where nudity is an impracticality, it isn’t forced upon them, but the option for personal freedom remains for the people.

If you wish to change it to legalization, then you should update the draft. Because I have seen no change so far. And simply legalizing nudity will maintain the problem of lewd acts, and actually increase it. With people who don’t believe in nudity and nudists interacting on a regular basis, then sexual harassment and assault will happen on a regular basis.
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Postby Wanarpu » Wed May 06, 2020 4:54 pm

Hypercapital wrote:Because of how Hypercap. works, Nudism couldn't be passed into law/systems. It's just smiled-upon, though.



does your nation not have laws?

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Postby Wanarpu » Wed May 06, 2020 4:54 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:
Wanarpu wrote:

Again, the focus of the legislation is changing to legalization rather than mandate. This way, for nations where nudity is an impracticality, it isn’t forced upon them, but the option for personal freedom remains for the people.

If you wish to change it to legalization, then you should update the draft. Because I have seen no change so far. And simply legalizing nudity will maintain the problem of lewd acts, and actually increase it. With people who don’t believe in nudity and nudists interacting on a regular basis, then sexual harassment and assault will happen on a regular basis.


draft has been updated, and i will maintain my disagreement with your assertions regarding public lewdness and sexual assault

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Postby Araraukar » Wed May 06, 2020 5:17 pm

Wanarpu wrote:II. Mandates member nations to legalize nudity for citizens,

OOC: Contradiction of CoCR, which requires the laws apply to all inhabitants evenly. I can't imagine any compelling practical reason (CoCR's excemption allowance) why citizens being nude would not be a problem while other inhabitants would be.

Also, you still haven't addressed the nudity and below-freezing temperatures issue. See Child Abuse Ban. Blanket legalization of nudity in any conditions would mean that parents could decide their kiddies should be naked in a blizzard, which would violate the resolution, which means your proposal would be contradictory.

I can already tell you that you're going to have to water this back to status quo if you want any chance of passing it, especially given that I imagine vast majority of voters are from nations where nudity is considered sexual (I am not, for the record). So since that destroys the shock value of it anyway, maybe you should instead change course and tackle the actual issues you're concerned with. Which are... actually, what are they? Discrimination based on weight and bodyshape?
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed May 06, 2020 8:42 pm

Wanarpu wrote:PROPOSAL IS NOW TO LEGALIZE, RATHER THAN MANDATE, NUDITY

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Realizing the social stigmas that arise from judgements upon individual clothing choices,

"Apparently not realizing the social stigmas surrounding physical fitness and body shape."
Staying aware that clothes are often used as a mechanism for victim blaming in cases of assault and rape,

"Apparently thinking that public nudity will somehow reduce such victim blaming."
Recognizing that buying clothing can be a significant cost incursion on low income families,

Reaffirming that most clothes are produced through exploitative and underpaid labor, which in turn can have severe negative economic repercussions,

Reiterating that clothes are often used as a way to buttress social inequalities and class structure

"All the more reason to propagate the communist revolution throughout the World Assembly."
Acknowledging that the natural resources for clothes take a large toll on the environment and are a considerable factor in water scarcity

"As are things such as food, water, and public health. Some things are worth their associated costs."
Making note that clothing is unnatural by design and is not a necessary part of human evolutionary design,

"Corrective dentistry, public roads, and living past 35 are unnatural and unnecessary to human evolution. These really are not good arguments, ambassador."
Noting the importance of body positivity and the scientifically backed fact that nudity in social settings can promote it,

"That sort of claim will require evidence to go with it."
Seeking to clarify that nudity is not inherently sexual and normalizing it can lead to lower levels of objectification, sexualization and fetishization of certain groups of peoples,

"Ambassador, you can't declare a sexual revolution on member states. Culture doesn't work that way. Believe me, our republic tried."
I. Defines, for the purpose of this legislation,
a. ‘nudity’ as an absence of any worn clothing with exception to footwear, headwear, accessories or assistive articles for people with disabilities
b. ‘public lewdness’ as any sexual act in public, including signs of arousal,
II. Mandates member nations to legalize nudity for citizens,
III. Mandates member nations to continue the criminalization of public lewdness,
V. Suggests that member nations begin body positivity campaigns and advocate for nudity as a solution to issues surrounding body positivity,
VI. Recommends that member nations require that workers in fields where nudity is an impracticality or a certain attire is required disallow those workers from attending their places of employment nude,

"These are generally foolish mandates. This will not receive Wallenburgian support."
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Postby Kenmoria » Thu May 07, 2020 2:58 am

(OOC: The post title should be ‘Proposal to Legalise Nudity in Member States’, since that is the current aim of the proposal. Also, the idea of criminalising kissing in public will not gain much support.)
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Postby Ignis Cinere » Fri May 08, 2020 9:06 pm

"It seems to me that this is mainly, or at least significantly about about the clothes itself that you have a problem about, in the first few clauses. Why legalise nudity then, when it's about just the clothes? You could just have a resolution regarding the working standards of workers making clothes and placing caps upon the clothes' prices, etc. Forgive me if my assumption is wrong."
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sat May 09, 2020 7:01 am

"Is this a joke proposal or something because I find this to be very not funny? We will oppose this proposal as it is morally depraved and indecent especially if children are around."
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Postby Krishna Rashtra » Sat May 09, 2020 4:46 pm

"We are decidedly opposed to this silly proposal."

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Postby Mornicoder » Sat May 09, 2020 11:11 pm

Mornicoder is opposed to this absurd proposal, but our delegate seems to support it.
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Postby Stellonia » Sun May 10, 2020 2:03 pm

"We think this proposal is unnecessary, and we intend to vote against it should the opportunity arise."

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Postby Bananaistan » Sun May 10, 2020 3:13 pm

“Full support but I’d suggest that the definitions should be dropped, lose “for citizens” in II, III should be a recommendation (we’re not all prudes), and VI should be tightened: people should be allowed to be nude at work except when PPE or clothes are needed for the safety of the worker or those they come into contact with at work. So people who push pens in an office, or indoor work which doesn’t need exceptional hygiene, such as diplomats at an international legislature, can be nude at work, but fire fighters, surgeons, farm hands and so on could still be required to wear clothes/PPE by their employers.

“Actually perhaps having a wash in the morning should be added as a condition to being allowed to go nude.”
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Postby American Pere Housh » Mon May 11, 2020 9:23 pm

Bananaistan wrote:“Full support but I’d suggest that the definitions should be dropped, lose “for citizens” in II, III should be a recommendation (we’re not all prudes), and VI should be tightened: people should be allowed to be nude at work except when PPE or clothes are needed for the safety of the worker or those they come into contact with at work. So people who push pens in an office, or indoor work which doesn’t need exceptional hygiene, such as diplomats at an international legislature, can be nude at work, but fire fighters, surgeons, farm hands and so on could still be required to wear clothes/PPE by their employers.

“Actually perhaps having a wash in the morning should be added as a condition to being allowed to go nude.”

"These reasons are so absurd and stupid plus even if, and thats a very big if, this were to pass, how do you plan on enforce this silly proposal? My people will just refuse to follow a law so morallisticly deprave."
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Postby Tanayfvh » Mon May 11, 2020 9:31 pm

Donald Trump is stupid and mad. :clap: :p

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Tanayfvh wrote:Donald Trump is stupid and mad. :clap: :p

Umm wrong forum.
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