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[DRAFT] Repeal & Replace "Ban on Religious Sacrifice"

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[DRAFT] Repeal & Replace "Ban on Religious Sacrifice"

Postby WA Author » Fri May 01, 2020 12:56 pm

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Repeal & Replace GAR#416 “Ban on Religious Sacrifices”

Repeal Resolution

The World Assembly,

Recognizing, the noble attempts of GAR#416 to eliminate the largely peculiar practice of religious sacrifices, expressly live sacrifices to gods or divinities,

Believing that GAR#416 does not adequately arrange how criminal acts of religious sacrifice are to be identified. Instead, #416 modestly bans the act of religious sacrifices.

Detailing, that in order for GAR#416 to be able to properly prosecute perpetrators, a viable identification method would need to be enlisted as religious cults engaging in such activities as sacrifice often do so on the low, and are rarely prosecuted aside from a stray individual.

Further detailing that resolution #416 does not adequately define “ritual sacrifice” on the premises that the resolution can be bypassed if the sacrifice is instead apart of a ‘dark magic’ ritual, where the organism being sacrificed is not being sacrificed to a god, deity, or other deific being.

Declaring that GAR#416 inadequately deals with the matter of religious sacrifice as a whole,

Does hereby repeal GAR#416, by the name of “Ban on Religious Sacrifices.”




Replacement Resolution

Prohibition of Religious Cults & Sacrifices
Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Strong


The World Assembly,

Disgusted by the disconcerting fact that religious sacrifice and cults continues to remain semi-prevalent among religious cults across the many member states of this assembly

Revolted that many states continue to endorse or authorize the act of forming religious cults, as well as the sacrificing of live and sentient beings for the purpose of magical ceremony, or as offering to a celestial or higher entity.

Unreservedly horrified that these sacrifices extend to inhumane, unethical, and blood curdling usage of humans and other animals for purpose and in method too ghastly to describe in this assembly’s hallowed halls,

Speechless from the usage by bureaucrats of such sacrifices and cults in order to keep dissent at manageable or nonexistent levels by means of threat, as well as to claim divine right to rule in their position(s),

Shocked by the fact that nations continue to overlook this problem in their many internal issues, and while coupling this with the prohibition of such acts, make no noticeable effort to prevent such ghastly actions from occurrence,

Does hereby,

1: Define ‘religious cult’ as an organization or group that engages in activities not common place in state approved, sanctioned, or authorized churches, engages in unorthodox practices that are generally considered appalling in nature, or is a non-public group or organization that is not currently known, or is not meant to be known by, state intelligence groups.
2: Define ‘religious sacrifice’ as the act of sacrificing an object or living organism for the purpose of ceremony, ritual, initiation, or for the purpose of sacrificing to gods, deities, or other celestial beings, as well as the sacrificing of organisms or objects for non-religious related matters.
3: Outlaw the participation or formation of a religious cult, partnered with the prohibition of participating in any manner of religious sacrifice.
4: Ensure the continued dissolution of such organizations and practices by:
4A. Necessitating the state or state intelligence agencies to engage in at minimum biyearly evaluations and investigations as to the current status and progress for elimination of these cults and practices
4B. Mandating that if a cult or individual practicing sacrificial rituals is identified by intelligence efforts, individuals are to be placed in such groups in a short-term effort to dissolve the group and detain its following.
5: Interdict bureaucrats or otherwise officials from using religious sacrifice or cults in order to stay in power, claim divine right to rule, and force or encourage actions from citizens using these methods.
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Postby Barfleur » Fri May 01, 2020 1:10 pm

Out of Character: Anonymous puppets typically don't fare too well in the World Assembly. If you have another nation, use that one unless you're DOS.

In terms of the proposal itself (the replacement, that is), your definition of a cult is hard to understand. A book club would be considered a cult as (presumably) it's not being monitored or observed by a nation's intelligence service. Also, what constitutes "appalling" behavior? That's an entirely subjective definition, and with all the different interpretations, you would be creating way more confusion than you need.
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri May 01, 2020 2:49 pm

This proposal is illegal for an Honest Mistake violation, the false claim that "ritual sacrifice" is limited to offerings to gods. Seeing as you couldn't even get the title of the target resolution correct (it is entitled "Ban on Ritual Sacrifice"), I think you need to do more thorough reading.

Meanwhile, your replacement has weaker mandates and is less effective at identifying and putting out acts of ritual sacrifice.
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Postby Kenmoria » Fri May 01, 2020 3:09 pm

“It appears your main issue is that the target resolution does not have a good way of identifying cults. Firstly, this seems like a national problem rather than an international one. Secondly, if this is the case, then creating a piece of legislation about the identification of cults wouldn’t need the repeal of #416. Instead, a complementary resolution could be devised.”
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sat May 02, 2020 1:00 pm

Barfleur wrote:Out of Character: Anonymous puppets typically don't fare too well in the World Assembly. If you have another nation, use that one unless you're DOS.

I, for one, don't care. I think we should judge resolutions on content.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat May 02, 2020 1:03 pm

I thought the moderators ruled against the use of WA puppeteering in submitting proposals. See Repeal "Rights and Duties of WA States", (2014) 1 IAM 26, viewtopic.php?p=19353563#p19353563.

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Postby Bananaistan » Sat May 02, 2020 3:46 pm

OOC: Using WA puppets to submit proposals has never been illegal per se. The precedent referred to is in respect of using a submitting nation to advertise a group and was based on the text of the branding rule at the time which explicitly forbade puppets being used to advertise a region or group.
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Postby Barfleur » Sat May 02, 2020 6:09 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Barfleur wrote:Out of Character: Anonymous puppets typically don't fare too well in the World Assembly. If you have another nation, use that one unless you're DOS.

I, for one, don't care. I think we should judge resolutions on content.

I don't care either. I was just telling the author that many people do, and that it would hurt their campaign if they continued to use a puppet rather than their main nation (if they have one). Just trying to help, that's all.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sat May 02, 2020 7:29 pm

Barfleur wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:I, for one, don't care. I think we should judge resolutions on content.

I don't care either. I was just telling the author that many people do, and that it would hurt their campaign if they continued to use a puppet rather than their main nation (if they have one). Just trying to help, that's all.

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