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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:30 pm
by Imperium Anglorum
The North Polish Union wrote:Has the GA set an age of consent for invasive medical procedures, above which parents cannot consent on behalf of their children?

See "Legal Competence".

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:10 am
by Bears Armed
The North Polish Union wrote:Has the GA set an age of consent for invasive medical procedures, above which parents cannot consent on behalf of their children?

No, and because of Resolution #299 (clause 4) it can not do so. WA-imposed one-size-fits-all age limits for anything are barred, such limits are purely a national matter.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:39 pm
by Thousand Branches
Two questions today.

One: Is it legal to force an individual member state to create a committee (sort of in the same way there is a large list of GA-wide committees but as an individual member nation thing)?

Two: Is it legal to mention a previously repealed resolution in a later resolution, given that the resolution is repealed and cannot be un-repealed?

I'm guessing that's a no on both counts tbh but I just want to check :}

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:42 am
by Bears Armed
Thousand Branches wrote:Two questions today.

One: Is it legal to force an individual member state to create a committee (sort of in the same way there is a large list of GA-wide committees but as an individual member nation thing)?
You can't target only "an individual member nation". It is legal, however, to force "each & every member nation" to create a committee (or agency, or whatever)for itself, as long as the functions specified for those committees do not themselves break any of the rules.

Thousand Branches wrote:Two: Is it legal to mention a previously repealed resolution in a later resolution, given that the resolution is repealed and cannot be un-repealed?
If you're mentioning its repeal as justification for a replacement then potentially (depending on how you word that reference) it could be legal.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:05 am
by Sierra Lyricalia
Bears Armed wrote:
Thousand Branches wrote:Two: Is it legal to mention a previously repealed resolution in a later resolution, given that the resolution is repealed and cannot be un-repealed?
If you're mentioning its repeal as justification for a replacement then potentially (depending on how you word that reference) it could be legal.


You can also be oblique about it: like, say, "ADMIRING the World Assembly's historical appreciation of the field of numismatics..." as a reference to GAR #56. Not everything has to be explicitly spelled out.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:13 am
by Thousand Branches
Thank you to both of ya’ll! This stuff being legal does make my job a little easier :3

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:48 am
by Rick Perry
Do the proposals have to be on a specific thing or anything?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:57 am
by Islands Of Ventro
Rick Perry wrote:Do the proposals have to be on a specific thing or anything?

Yes

Pacific Settlement of Disputes

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:26 am
by JAIBHARAT
Pacific Settlement of Disputes
Article 1
The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice.
The Security Council shall, when it deems necessary, call upon the parties to settle their dispute by such means.
Article 2
The Security Council may investigate any dispute, or any situation which might lead to international friction or give rise to a dispute, in order to determine whether the continuance of the dispute or situation is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security.

Article 3
Any Member of the United Nations may bring any dispute, or any situation of the nature referred to in Article, to the attention of the Security Council or of the General Assembly.
A state which is not a Member of the United Nations may bring to the attention of the Security Council or of the General Assembly any dispute to which it is a party if it accepts in advance, for the purposes of the dispute, the obligations of pacific settlement provided in the present Charter.
The proceedings of the General Assembly in respect of matters brought to its attention under this Article will be subject to the provisions.
Article 4
The Security Council may, at any stage of a dispute of the nature referred to in Article or of a situation of like nature, recommend appropriate procedures or methods of adjustment.
The Security Council should take into consideration any procedures for the settlement of the dispute which have already been adopted by the parties.
In making recommendations under this Article the Security Council should also take into consideration that legal disputes should as a general rule be referred by the parties to the International Court of Justice in accordance with the provisions of the Statute of the Court.
Article 5
Should the parties to a dispute of the nature referred to in Article fail to settle it by the means indicated in that Article, they shall refer it to the Security Council.
If the Security Council deems that the continuance of the dispute is in fact likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, it shall decide whether to take action under Article or to recommend such terms of settlement as it may consider appropriate.
Article 6
Without prejudice to the provisions of Articles 1 to 5, the Security Council may, if all the parties to any dispute so request, make recommendations to the parties with a view to a pacific settlement of the dispute.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:51 am
by Bananaistan
JAIBHARAT wrote:
Pacific Settlement of Disputes
Article 1
The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice.
The Security Council shall, when it deems necessary, call upon the parties to settle their dispute by such means.
Article 2
The Security Council may investigate any dispute, or any situation which might lead to international friction or give rise to a dispute, in order to determine whether the continuance of the dispute or situation is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security.

Article 3
Any Member of the United Nations may bring any dispute, or any situation of the nature referred to in Article, to the attention of the Security Council or of the General Assembly.
A state which is not a Member of the United Nations may bring to the attention of the Security Council or of the General Assembly any dispute to which it is a party if it accepts in advance, for the purposes of the dispute, the obligations of pacific settlement provided in the present Charter.
The proceedings of the General Assembly in respect of matters brought to its attention under this Article will be subject to the provisions.
Article 4
The Security Council may, at any stage of a dispute of the nature referred to in Article or of a situation of like nature, recommend appropriate procedures or methods of adjustment.
The Security Council should take into consideration any procedures for the settlement of the dispute which have already been adopted by the parties.
In making recommendations under this Article the Security Council should also take into consideration that legal disputes should as a general rule be referred by the parties to the International Court of Justice in accordance with the provisions of the Statute of the Court.
Article 5
Should the parties to a dispute of the nature referred to in Article fail to settle it by the means indicated in that Article, they shall refer it to the Security Council.
If the Security Council deems that the continuance of the dispute is in fact likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, it shall decide whether to take action under Article or to recommend such terms of settlement as it may consider appropriate.
Article 6
Without prejudice to the provisions of Articles 1 to 5, the Security Council may, if all the parties to any dispute so request, make recommendations to the parties with a view to a pacific settlement of the dispute.


This thread is for questions about the GA. What's your question?

Also, this, if it's intended as a proposal, is illegal on all sorts of counts, but primarily plagiarism. Please don't plagiarise.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:05 am
by Croato-Slavia
What do OOC, IC, etc. mean?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:53 am
by Phydios
Croato-Slavia wrote:What do OOC, IC, etc. mean?

OOC: Out of Character, used when a player is speaking as themselves and not as their fictional nation or anyone in it.
IC: In Character, the opposite of OOC.
Etc: Et cetera, Latin for "and the rest".

PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:58 am
by Croato-Slavia
Phydios wrote:
Croato-Slavia wrote:What do OOC, IC, etc. mean?

OOC: Out of Character, used when a player is speaking as themselves and not as their fictional nation or anyone in it.
IC: In Character, the opposite of OOC.
Etc: Et cetera, Latin for "and the rest".

I know what etc. means, but with etc. I meant to address other shortenings. Still, thank you very much.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:42 pm
by Thousand Branches
How can legality checks be requested in the GA? I apologize, it might be in the rules but as far as I can tell, it only extends to legality challenges. I’m curious how to just sorta confirm whether something is legal or illegal before it’s submitted

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:03 am
by Imperium Anglorum
Thousand Branches wrote:I’m curious how to just sorta confirm whether something is legal or illegal before it’s submitted

Frankly, you can't. You can take a look at it with other people to hopefully foreclose legality challenges. But someone might notice something subtle late in drafting or even at vote which makes the proposal illegal.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:03 am
by Thousand Branches
Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Thousand Branches wrote:I’m curious how to just sorta confirm whether something is legal or illegal before it’s submitted

Frankly, you can't. You can take a look at it with other people to hopefully foreclose legality challenges. But someone might notice something subtle late in drafting or even at vote which makes the proposal illegal.

Man, that’s cutthroat!! Fair enough ^_^

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:47 am
by Thamesholm and Wallborough
Is there any concept of martial law in WA law?

Can people suspected of internal (violent) rebellion
(In a civil war scenario) be tried by military courts if martial law is declared?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:19 am
by Separatist Peoples
Thamesholm and Wallborough wrote:Is there any concept of martial law in WA law?

Can people suspected of internal (violent) rebellion
(In a civil war scenario) be tried by military courts if martial law is declared?

There isn't anything discrete on the topic. Martial law is subject to the same protections for civilians as regular law.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:16 pm
by Thousand Branches
Noticed this today, but should the joke proposal link be changed in the rules post? It has the outdated link (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=548) still and it was replaced a whiiiiile back with: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=255807. Oh did I say a while back? I actually meant 8 years ago :p Either way, I think that should be updated, yes?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:54 pm
by Bears Armed
Thousand Branches wrote:Noticed this today, but should the joke proposal link be changed in the rules post? It has the outdated link (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=548) still and it was replaced a whiiiiile back with: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=255807. Oh did I say a while back? I actually meant 8 years ago :p Either way, I think that should be updated, yes?

Good point! Thank you for reporting this. I'll pass this information onwards accordingly.

EDIT: Sedgistan has fixed it.

Rules for assembly resolutions

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:44 am
by Katorisa
Eh yeah question, what are the rules for resolutions in the WA, pls send me link if it exist. My last resolution was declared illegal and I don't want to make that mistake again

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:51 am
by Sierra Lyricalia
Katorisa wrote:Eh yeah question, what are the rules for resolutions in the WA, pls send me link if it exist. My last resolution was declared illegal and I don't want to make that mistake again


See links in my signature below for relevant information.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:50 pm
by Thousand Branches
Okay I’m back for more on the rules post (sorry). This wording:

“A proposal with mild language or affecting a narrow area of policy is Mild, while one which a very broad area of policy in a dramatic way is Strong.”

That’s grammatically incorrect. I’m guessing it’s missing an “affects” after “which”? That would be the most obvious solution (although notably, that “which” probably also works better as “that”).

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:28 pm
by Imperium Anglorum
Thousand Branches wrote:Okay I’m back for more on the rules post (sorry). This wording:

“A proposal with mild language or affecting a narrow area of policy is Mild, while one which a very broad area of policy in a dramatic way is Strong.”

That’s grammatically incorrect. I’m guessing it’s missing an “affects” after “which”? That would be the most obvious solution (although notably, that “which” probably also works better as “that”).

There are many errors – grammatical and otherwise – in the Rules thread. I once tried to fix one error. It took 11 months.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:08 pm
by Tinhampton
Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Thousand Branches wrote:Okay I’m back for more on the rules post (sorry). This wording:

“A proposal with mild language or affecting a narrow area of policy is Mild, while one which a very broad area of policy in a dramatic way is Strong.”

That’s grammatically incorrect. I’m guessing it’s missing an “affects” after “which”? That would be the most obvious solution (although notably, that “which” probably also works better as “that”).

There are many errors – grammatical and otherwise – in the Rules thread. I once tried to fix one error. It took 11 months.

In the GA Proposal Categories post alone:
  • The description for the Educational and Creativity/Artistic category reads "Artistic is just what you'd expect - government funding for the Arts. No more trying to sneak it in under human rights." This is despite the fact that Human Rights has been called Civil Rights since 2018.
  • The Civil Rights/Moral Decency section contains a passage on Civil Freedoms declaring that ""Human Rights" increases these freedoms while "Moral Decency" reduces them." Again, HR hasn't been called that for three years.
  • In the Environmental section, there should not be a comma after "Fishing,;"... and the examples given for the "All Business" subcategory should be for "All Businesses". Said section also ends with the phrase "...where as strong is the most impacful of any environmental resolution"; that should read "...whereas strong is the most impactful of any environmental resolution" instead.
  • "With regard to the Social Justice category and the three strengths," the Social Justice category says, "when determining whether or not your policy is mild, strong or significant ask yourself, are you covering general welfare, or are you including healthcare." Yet healthcare has had its own category since 2014!
  • There are repeated references to "The Furtherment of Democracy"; the "The" was removed some time ago but I don't know when.
  • The end of the post warns that "If your nation gets thrown out of the WA, then that's permanent." In fact, permanent WA bans have not been issued since 2016.
And to cap it all off, the Repeals rule contains a grammatical error inasmuch as it prescribes that "Repeals can only be submitted by click the repeal link". Those are just the ones I've found myself :P