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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:31 pm

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:If I took a resolution from the UN such as this one and edited it (irl resolutions are very long and link to non-Nationstates things), would it be allowed? It shouldn't be plagiarism if you aren't getting anything out of it and it has no effect on anything. No one would know unless they keep track of UN Resolutions.

Yes, that is plagiarism. It doesn't matter that you aren't making money from it, nor that most people wouldn't recognize it as plagiarism.
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Postby Araraukar » Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:52 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
The Hazar Amisnery wrote:If I took a resolution from the UN such as this one and edited it (irl resolutions are very long and link to non-Nationstates things), would it be allowed? It shouldn't be plagiarism if you aren't getting anything out of it and it has no effect on anything. No one would know unless they keep track of UN Resolutions.

Yes, that is plagiarism. It doesn't matter that you aren't making money from it, nor that most people wouldn't recognize it as plagiarism.

Also quite a few people here are quite capable of checking a suspiciously well-written newbie's proposal topic in UN resolutions and RL laws, to find if it is plagiarized from somewhere. It's a bad idea of an approach to begin with.
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:16 am

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:If I took a resolution from the UN such as this one and edited it (irl resolutions are very long and link to non-Nationstates things), would it be allowed? It shouldn't be plagiarism if you aren't getting anything out of it and it has no effect on anything. No one would know unless they keep track of UN Resolutions.

Under the WA rules it would be Plagiarism, and that can get your nation kicked out of the WA for a year. If it looks too obviously a RL document of some kind then we can search the net using phrases from it and see what comes up, which has caught some plagiarists in the past...
... and now you've warned urrs to keep an eye on you, too. :roll:

Anyway, the chances are that UN legislation either wouldn't work in the NS context or already has a WA equivalent. Have you looked through the searchable thread on passed resolutions that is also stickied near the top of this forum?
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:30 pm

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:No one would know unless they keep track of UN Resolutions.

And yet you just told everyone here of your intentions. Well played.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:08 pm

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:If I took a resolution from the UN such as this one and edited it (irl resolutions are very long and link to non-Nationstates things), would it be allowed? It shouldn't be plagiarism if you aren't getting anything out of it and it has no effect on anything. No one would know unless they keep track of UN Resolutions.


GenSec has tools to detect plagiarism. Do not try it.

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Postby Untecna » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:49 pm

I should probably ask before doing this: would it be a good idea to make a proposal banning alcohol?
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:19 am

Untecna wrote:I should probably ask before doing this: would it be a good idea to make a proposal banning alcohol?

:rofl:
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Postby Naya Insaafistan » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:30 am

Untecna wrote:I should probably ask before doing this: would it be a good idea to make a proposal banning alcohol?


i'm all for prohibition, but having a WA resolution enact the policy in all member states would be a gross violation of sovereignty. each nation needs to be allowed to decide for themselves what policies they wish to enact and not have them foisted upon them by external forces.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:14 am

Untecna wrote:I should probably ask before doing this: would it be a good idea to make a proposal banning alcohol?

We don’t even ban hard drugs like meth and heroin, so no
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Postby Daarwyrth » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:41 am

Untecna wrote:I should probably ask before doing this: would it be a good idea to make a proposal banning alcohol?

A ban wouldn't be a good idea, I think (even though I'd fully support it). However, there are other angles to approach the topics from. Not a ban, but other legislative acts like regulating stuff or trying to create more awareness for the dangers of alcohol etc.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:47 am

Daarwyrth wrote:
Untecna wrote:I should probably ask before doing this: would it be a good idea to make a proposal banning alcohol?

A ban wouldn't be a good idea, I think (even though I'd fully support it). However, there are other angles to approach the topics from. Not a ban, but other legislative acts like regulating stuff or trying to create more awareness for the dangers of alcohol etc.

Bear in mind that you can't try to set any single WA-wide ("One-size-fits-none") age limits, due to GA Res. #299, clause 4.
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Postby Untecna » Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:50 am

Daarwyrth wrote:
Untecna wrote:I should probably ask before doing this: would it be a good idea to make a proposal banning alcohol?

A ban wouldn't be a good idea, I think (even though I'd fully support it). However, there are other angles to approach the topics from. Not a ban, but other legislative acts like regulating stuff or trying to create more awareness for the dangers of alcohol etc.

Okay, makes sense.
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Daarwyrth wrote:A ban wouldn't be a good idea, I think (even though I'd fully support it). However, there are other angles to approach the topics from. Not a ban, but other legislative acts like regulating stuff or trying to create more awareness for the dangers of alcohol etc.

Bear in mind that you can't try to set any single WA-wide ("One-size-fits-none") age limits, due to GA Res. #299, clause 4.

Noted. Are there any other clauses in previous legislation I should be aware of?
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Postby The North Polish Union » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:03 pm

Has GA 46 "Right of Emigration" ever been replaced? If so, was it with one or multiple resolutions?
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:21 pm

The North Polish Union wrote:Has GA 46 "Right of Emigration" ever been replaced? If so, was it with one or multiple resolutions?

Yes, by GA#279 (an identically-named resolution by another author).
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Postby Team Lennox » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:46 am

An animal protection act?
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:01 pm

Team Lennox wrote:An animal protection act?


Not as an omnibus law. You will probably need to focus in on one more specific aspect of animal welfare rather than trying to do a giant catch-all.
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Postby Team Lennox » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:44 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Team Lennox wrote:An animal protection act?


Not as an omnibus law. You will probably need to focus in on one more specific aspect of animal welfare rather than trying to do a giant catch-all.

Ok :)
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Postby Dar Al-Badw » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:37 pm

Do the WA laws governing airstrikes in particular or, acts of war in general, classify police officers of enemy nations as combatants or non-combatants?
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:32 pm

Dar Al-Badw wrote:Do the WA laws governing airstrikes in particular or, acts of war in general, classify police officers of enemy nations as combatants or non-combatants?

That would depend on what they are doing.
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Postby Dar Al-Badw » Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:29 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Dar Al-Badw wrote:Do the WA laws governing airstrikes in particular or, acts of war in general, classify police officers of enemy nations as combatants or non-combatants?

That would depend on what they are doing.

If the war aims at regime change and they’re enforcing the regime.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:08 am

Dar Al-Badw wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That would depend on what they are doing.

If the war aims at regime change and they’re enforcing the regime.

Extant law addresses the status of noncombatants. You are asking a question without a clear legal answer because it is heavily based in immediate factual issues at the time of the strike.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:42 am

Dar Al-Badw wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That would depend on what they are doing.

If the war aims at regime change and they’re enforcing the regime.

If that's all they're doing, then they are noncombatants. Being a loyalist doesn't make you a legal military target.
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Postby Dar Al-Badw » Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:03 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Dar Al-Badw wrote:If the war aims at regime change and they’re enforcing the regime.

If that's all they're doing, then they are noncombatants. Being a loyalist doesn't make you a legal military target.

I mean in terms of quelling dissent and/or insurrection.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:25 am

Dar Al-Badw wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:If that's all they're doing, then they are noncombatants. Being a loyalist doesn't make you a legal military target.

I mean in terms of quelling dissent and/or insurrection.

Again, extremely fact specific. Dissent is not itself a combative act. It can be. But isn't always. I suggest you look at extant WA law addressing warfare and work it out yourself.

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Postby The North Polish Union » Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:04 pm

Has the GA set an age of consent for invasive medical procedures, above which parents cannot consent on behalf of their children?
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