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Separatist Peoples
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:59 am

Hannasea wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Civil Rights was a rename of an existing category and not a new creation. That's why.

The resolutions were still voted on as Human Rights. The Furry region voted against every single Human Rights resolution after the failure of Rights of Intelligent Beings, based on the name. You can't Yezhov that away, because the word human was exactly what they were voting on!

...though my naturally argumentative streak now has me in the unfortunate position of defending furries, so I guess I'll bow out. Just - annoying. Grrr.

Didnt edit in time for this! Idk if the change could be made nonretroactive. That didnt really come up. We were mostly concerned with clarify moving forward.

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Omigodtheykilledkenny
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:05 pm

Hannasea wrote:*snip*

I thought Tinis vowed to vote against all resolutions till a sapient rights act passed? Your memory's probably better than mine.

Although, they did promise to go back and recategorize some resolutions after they created the Healthcare category. I don't know if they ever did.
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Hulldom
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WA Author History

Postby Hulldom » Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:48 pm

Hello, I’m new to the forums, but not new to NationStates. I am considering drafting a resolution to commend a nation, but I fear I may have an incomplete record of their participation in drafting and passing both General Assembly and Security Council resolutions. Is there a way to potentially search through the authors of resolutions in one or both chambers by author, without searching through every passed resolution/condemnation/commendation?

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Tinhampton
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:24 am

Hulldom wrote:Hello, I’m new to the forums, but not new to NationStates. I am considering drafting a resolution to commend a nation, but I fear I may have an incomplete record of their participation in drafting and passing both General Assembly and Security Council resolutions. Is there a way to potentially search through the authors of resolutions in one or both chambers by author, without searching through every passed resolution/condemnation/commendation?

Yes and yes (type in that author's name into the search bar at the top of both pages). Although it has not been updated for about a year or so, Auralia maintains a list of GA resolutions by author (including aliases). Commendations and Condemnations are the responsibility of the SC, not the GA.
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Umeria
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Postby Umeria » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:19 pm

Can a resolution have a non-binding clause relating to nonmember nations (for example, "Encourages nonmember nations to join the World Assembly")?
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Morover
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Postby Morover » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:23 pm

Umeria wrote:Can a resolution have a non-binding clause relating to nonmember nations (for example, "Encourages nonmember nations to join the World Assembly")?

While this post isn't a definitive ruling by any means, it does imply that such a clause would be illegal, so long as it would be enough to make a mild proposal legal (if applied to member-states, not non-member-states). I believe that "Encourages..." would run afoul of this, but I'm not certain on that matter. It's probably possible if phrased correctly, though.

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Cretox State
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Postby Cretox State » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:24 pm

Umeria wrote:Can a resolution have a non-binding clause relating to nonmember nations (for example, "Encourages nonmember nations to join the World Assembly")?

I do believe there's precedent for non-members to voluntarily opt into WA programs.

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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:45 am

Cretox State wrote:
Umeria wrote:Can a resolution have a non-binding clause relating to nonmember nations (for example, "Encourages nonmember nations to join the World Assembly")?

I do believe there's precedent for non-members to voluntarily opt into WA programs.

There is, but "encourages" is an active clause form (it's enough for a Mild strength resolution), and would be illegal legislation on non-members.
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Postby Urasimu wa Kati » Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:44 am

Are there or have there ever been organized factions/parties in the World Assembly? Aside from the region system.

For example, a faction that supports great international political integration versus a faction that believes the WA has already gone too far in violating national sovereignty.

I can see from previous discussions on proposals that such differing opinions definitely exist, but I'm curious if there have ever been named organized factions around these differing approaches.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:47 am

Urasimu wa Kati wrote:Are there or have there ever been organized factions/parties in the World Assembly? Aside from the region system.

For example, a faction that supports great international political integration versus a faction that believes the WA has already gone too far in violating national sovereignty.

I can see from previous discussions on proposals that such differing opinions definitely exist, but I'm curious if there have ever been named organized factions around these differing approaches.

No, and it is not encouraged to start them.
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Urasimu wa Kati
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Postby Urasimu wa Kati » Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:52 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Urasimu wa Kati wrote:Are there or have there ever been organized factions/parties in the World Assembly? Aside from the region system.

For example, a faction that supports great international political integration versus a faction that believes the WA has already gone too far in violating national sovereignty.

I can see from previous discussions on proposals that such differing opinions definitely exist, but I'm curious if there have ever been named organized factions around these differing approaches.

No, and it is not encouraged to start them.


Don't worry, I'm new and was not planning on attempting any such thing, was just curious of the history.

That said, I'm still curious - why is it not encouraged to start them?

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Postby Graintfjall » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:31 pm

Urasimu wa Kati wrote:Are there or have there ever been organized factions/parties in the World Assembly?

Yes. The NSO was probably the most successful/influential. They're not really a thing any more, though, since regions got involved. There are some cross-regional groups but I wouldn't call them 'factions' as they don't tend to be based around political ideology, more just around existing for the sake of regional voting power.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:50 am

Urasimu wa Kati wrote:That said, I'm still curious - why is it not encouraged to start them?

The mods get annoyed by people wanting to start "promotional" threads for their orgs in the GA forum. But starting an organization in and of itself isn't necessarily discouraged, apart from the reason that it probably won't last long (see above post). There was an attempt to start an International Federalist (anti-NatSov) group, but it petered out after a few months; a few "think tanks" to promote various types of legislation, but they shared a similar fate; and an NSO "revival" that managed to do little else than send Iron Felix rampaging through the halls of the WA growling "MUST!! CRUSH!! FEDERALISM!!", and force Ardchoille to retaliate by "occupying" the Kennyite offices with scores of filthy hippies.

I'm not even sure if NatSov vs. IntFed is even a thing anymore -- is it?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:44 am

Not really, in my view.

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:16 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I'm not even sure if NatSov vs. IntFed is even a thing anymore -- is it?

Arguments for NatSov are used all the time - I haven't seen IntFed arguments (at least specified as such) in ages - but there are no real "identities" for either side anymore. It's more a continuum now, with few if any people at the opposite ends, with most falling somewhere in between.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:14 pm

Is there precedent for repealing resolutions made redundant after a more comprehensive one is passed?
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Postby Graintfjall » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:34 am

Yes. Protection of Dolphins Act was repealed after UNCoESB passed.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:38 am

Graintfjall wrote:Yes. Protection of Dolphins Act was repealed after UNCoESB passed.

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Postby Araraukar » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:53 am

Honeydewistania wrote:Is there precedent for repealing resolutions made redundant after a more comprehensive one is passed?

Just, for the sake of nerves of everyone on this board, don't try to do it with the abortion ones. :P
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Postby Honeydewistania » Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:20 am

Araraukar wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Is there precedent for repealing resolutions made redundant after a more comprehensive one is passed?

Just, for the sake of nerves of everyone on this board, don't try to do it with the abortion ones. :P

I won’t ;)
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Postby Grey County » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:11 am

I had a weird thought. What if after months of drafting a proposal a random nation took ur latest draft and proposed it. What would happen.

It seems like their should be an illegality for proposals stolen but I dont think there is

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Postby Honeydewistania » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:14 am

Grey County wrote:I had a weird thought. What if after months of drafting a proposal a random nation took ur latest draft and proposed it. What would happen.

It seems like their should be an illegality for proposals stolen but I dont think there is

That’d be totally illegal for plagiarism
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Postby Picairn » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:51 pm

Grey County wrote:I had a weird thought. What if after months of drafting a proposal a random nation took ur latest draft and proposed it. What would happen.

It seems like their should be an illegality for proposals stolen but I dont think there is

That's what happened in the Security Council. See Condemn Sil Millise for more information.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:40 am

Honeydewistania wrote:
Grey County wrote:I had a weird thought. What if after months of drafting a proposal a random nation took ur latest draft and proposed it. What would happen.

It seems like their should be an illegality for proposals stolen but I dont think there is

That’d be totally illegal for plagiarism

And for the record, submitting a plagiarized proposal gets you kicked out of the WA for a year. It's one of the non-negotiable rules of NationStates.
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Urasimu wa Kati
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Postby Urasimu wa Kati » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:03 am

I saw that existing GA resolutions are categorized and searchable, which is very useful.

Beyond that, are there any sort of high-level summaries out there of the most prominent mandates that the WA puts upon nations? A sort of, "hey, if you're going to join the WA, here's what you should know your nation is agreeing to - here's what will now be automatically outlawed, here's what will be legalized, etc."?

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