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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:08 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:I will agree that compliance is required.

Also given how you can't escape the stats effect of a resolution passing if you're a WA member at a time, technically the game makes you be compliant anyway. :P

To anyone new who reads this, outside of this forum (like in, say, International Incidents) you can feel free to ignore the actual text of the resolutions. It's basically just forum etiquette to not roleplay as noncompliant on GA forum. :)
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:00 pm

Under that justification, I'm going to start purging off <REDACTED> because I didn't get a civil rights boost when I joined the Assembly.

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Postby Araraukar » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:48 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Under that justification, I'm going to start purging off <REDACTED> because I didn't get a civil rights boost when I joined the Assembly.

Do it on some other forum and I won't have a problem with it. II is full of that kind of weird shit. :P
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Postby Nicana » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:28 pm

Would there be any value in a new Meet the Reps thread? The past one, although still sometimes used, doesn't appear to be updated any longer (this is not a criticism of OMGTKK; he can do whatever he likes with his thread). As you can see from the dates, there were 5 from game's inception to 2009, and yet none since.

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Postby Araraukar » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:33 pm

Nicana wrote:Would there be any value in a new Meet the Reps thread? The past one, although still sometimes used, doesn't appear to be updated any longer (this is not a criticism of OMGTKK; he can do whatever he likes with his thread). As you can see from the dates, there were 5 from game's inception to 2009, and yet none since.

People still post in it (last post is March this year), and many don't post in it at all but instead use the forum signature to explain things about their ambassador or the post itself to explain other characters.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:44 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Nicana wrote:Would there be any value in a new Meet the Reps thread? The past one, although still sometimes used, doesn't appear to be updated any longer (this is not a criticism of OMGTKK; he can do whatever he likes with his thread). As you can see from the dates, there were 5 from game's inception to 2009, and yet none since.

People still post in it (last post is March this year), and many don't post in it at all but instead use the forum signature to explain things about their ambassador or the post itself to explain other characters.

Still, a new thread might encourage some creative entries, or at least updates from some of our regulars.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:18 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Still, a new thread might encourage some creative entries, or at least updates from some of our regulars.

*shrug* Maybe. I don't think there's anything stopping someone from starting up a new one.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:05 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Still, a new thread might encourage some creative entries, or at least updates from some of our regulars.

*shrug* Maybe. I don't think there's anything stopping someone from starting up a new one.

Indeed. Gruen or anyone else is free to try a new edition of Meet the Reps. I personally see no negative consequences to it.
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Postby Talitoa » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:52 am

Is there any WA article that deals with the creation of a Endangered Species list?
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Postby Techganet » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:42 am

What is the shortest resolution ever passed?

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Postby Nicana » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:45 am

Techganet wrote:What is the shortest resolution ever passed?

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Postby Merni » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:25 am

I encountered a problem while updating the committees list (in my signature). 432 GA (Preventing Desertification) assigns some duties to the WAEC (WA Environmental Council). But 42 GA, the resolution establishing the WAEC, was repealed and no other resolutions reference that committee. Is 432 GA reestablishing the WAEC here, without stating so explicitly? Is such an action legal?
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Postby Erithaca » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:31 am

Merni wrote:I encountered a problem while updating the committees list (in my signature). 432 GA (Preventing Desertification) assigns some duties to the WAEC (WA Environmental Council). But 42 GA, the resolution establishing the WAEC, was repealed and no other resolutions reference that committee. Is 432 GA reestablishing the WAEC here, without stating so explicitly?

Hi, I am the author of that resolution. Here is what the GA rules have to say about it: "A committee continues to exist after its resolution is repealed if it's used in another resolution". I hope that answers your question!

My question is this: "What is the longest ever GA resolution and the shortest non-historical resolution?"
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:42 am

Erithaca wrote:
Merni wrote:I encountered a problem while updating the committees list (in my signature). 432 GA (Preventing Desertification) assigns some duties to the WAEC (WA Environmental Council). But 42 GA, the resolution establishing the WAEC, was repealed and no other resolutions reference that committee. Is 432 GA reestablishing the WAEC here, without stating so explicitly?

Hi, I am the author of that resolution. Here is what the GA rules have to say about it: "A committee continues to exist after its resolution is repealed if it's used in another resolution". I hope that answers your question!

That rule has generally meant "if the committee was used in other resolutions before it was repealed it continues to exist and further duties can be added to it". As far as I know between the establishment of the WAEC and its abolishment no other resolution used it.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:42 am

Sanctaria wrote:*snip*

Actually, you can re-use committees from previous resolutions.

Also, all resolutions are, because they passed the vote, legal. So whether the action was technically legal or not, it is now. :P
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Postby Merni » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:17 am

Araraukar wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:*snip*

Actually, you can re-use committees from previous resolutions.

Yes, but typically only when it was explicitly reestablished by means of a "RE-ESTABLISHES" clause or similar, which this one lacks.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:16 am

Merni wrote:
Araraukar wrote:Actually, you can re-use committees from previous resolutions.

Yes, but typically only when it was explicitly reestablished by means of a "RE-ESTABLISHES" clause or similar, which this one lacks.


That's generally how it's been done, but a recent resolution passed without an explicit re-founding. GenSec hasn't ruled whether or not such an explicit statement is required going forward.
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Postby Schutzenphalia and West Ruhntuhnkuhnland » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:00 am

Hmm, so it seems as though "Argument:" is no longer automatically generated at the beginning of repeal texts.

The option to withdraw a self-submitted proposal is great, though. :clap:

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Postby Fra Lice » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:15 pm

Is it possible to reinstate a repealed resolution? And if so, how would I go about that?

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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:30 pm

Fra Lice wrote:Is it possible to reinstate a repealed resolution? And if so, how would I go about that?

You were already answered in your numerous threads.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:29 pm

Fra Lice wrote:Is it possible to reinstate a repealed resolution? And if so, how would I go about that?

No.

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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:48 am

Fra Lice wrote:Is it possible to reinstate a repealed resolution? And if so, how would I go about that?

Get permission from the original version's author (preferably through a post by them in this forum, where it can easily be seen) to re-submit their work, if they don't decide to do this themselves.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:20 pm

I think the one example of which I recall directly is the "reinstatement" of a resolution on space debris (with a very minor change). However, that doesn't count: that's not a reinstatement insofar as it is a new resolution with the same text. And because we don't do "reinstatements", and we rather do new resolutions with the same text, refer the plagiarism rule.

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Postby Sargon Reman » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:00 am

Is there a thread or place I can go where GA authorship is actually taught or explained thoroughly?

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:25 am

Sargon Reman wrote:Is there a thread or place I can go where GA authorship is actually taught or explained thoroughly?

Thank you

Not exactly, but a lot of authorship questions can be answered here and in the Discord chat in IA's signature. Otherwise, you can try putting together some drafts and asking for advice, or you can post on other drafting/discussion threads where you can get a feel for how GA authors write their proposals.
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