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Postby Wrapper » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:15 am

Stoskavanya wrote:Repeal all resolutions?

Ha. No. You can repeal all but GAR#1, but you'd have to do it one at a time. Feel free to try. GAR#300 is a good place to start.

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:18 am

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Separatist Peoples wrote:Can't be done.

Repeal all resolutions?

Good luck. :P
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:10 pm

Question: Would it be possible to, in theory, submit many proposals on the same topic, from many different unique WA players, each with different arguments, in order to evade the restrictions against spam?

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:07 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:Question: Would it be possible to, in theory, submit many proposals on the same topic, from many different unique WA players, each with different arguments, in order to evade the restrictions against spam?

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Why on earth are you trying to come up with a theoretical justification for something as stupid as spamming?

Would we catch you? Maybe. Would we warn you? Probably. Would we eject someone for orchestrating such a campaign? Almost certainly.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:12 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Question: Would it be possible to, in theory, submit many proposals on the same topic, from many different unique WA players, each with different arguments, in order to evade the restrictions against spam?

(totally not thinking about anything here)

Why on earth are you trying to come up with a theoretical justification for something as stupid as spamming?

Would we catch you? Maybe. Would we warn you? Probably. Would we eject someone for orchestrating such a campaign? Almost certainly.

I'm just contemplating; all this new activity is exciting, and I'm wondering if such a task would ever be attempted. I like to do that, you know. Plus, it wouldn't, in theory, be illegal--if players coordinate the submission of proposals, that's not illegal, right? And having multiple players submit a the same resolution is not illegal (ie. having 2 Condemn Lazarus proposals at once), right?

So, surely, having many players submit proposals in a coordinated fashion and submitting them all together in an attempt to fillibuster a resolution would not be illegal, right?
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Postby Tinfect » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:30 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:I'm just contemplating; all this new activity is exciting, and I'm wondering if such a task would ever be attempted. I like to do that, you know. Plus, it wouldn't, in theory, be illegal--if players coordinate the submission of proposals, that's not illegal, right? And having multiple players submit a the same resolution is not illegal (ie. having 2 Condemn Lazarus proposals at once), right?

So, surely, having many players submit proposals in a coordinated fashion and submitting them all together in an attempt to fillibuster a resolution would not be illegal, right?


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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:32 pm

Tinfect wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:I'm just contemplating; all this new activity is exciting, and I'm wondering if such a task would ever be attempted. I like to do that, you know. Plus, it wouldn't, in theory, be illegal--if players coordinate the submission of proposals, that's not illegal, right? And having multiple players submit a the same resolution is not illegal (ie. having 2 Condemn Lazarus proposals at once), right?

So, surely, having many players submit proposals in a coordinated fashion and submitting them all together in an attempt to fillibuster a resolution would not be illegal, right?


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Mate, you were literally just told, in no uncertain terms, that you'd be terminated from the WA on the spot if you were found out, and here you go saying you'd like to do it and handing yourself over as prime-suspect if it ever happens.

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I never said I would like to do it. I don't, as it would be annoying. Plus, if I did, it would be from my main anyways.

If it was legal, I might consider it at some point, but not anytime soon.

I merely am contemplating the concept of fillibustering, as I saw the potential for proposals to block others from getting to vote last night (Old Hope's Condemn Lazarus) :p
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:40 pm

So, to clarify, such action would be illegal? If so, under what rule?

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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:52 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Question: Would it be possible to, in theory, submit many proposals on the same topic, from many different unique WA players, each with different arguments, in order to evade the restrictions against spam?

(totally not thinking about anything here)

Why on earth are you trying to come up with a theoretical justification for something as stupid as spamming?


It's likely illegal because it's a coordinated, intentional act of spam. If you wanted to submit proposals on the same topic, you'd be better off fusing all of the proposals into just one document.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:33 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:Why on earth are you trying to come up with a theoretical justification for something as stupid as spamming?


It's likely illegal because it's a coordinated, intentional act of spam. If you wanted to submit proposals on the same topic, you'd be better off fusing all of the proposals into just one document.

It's not spam, given that it's done with a point beyond annoying others, though that is an objective. Plus, each of the resolutions would be a legal and carefully-written resolution in their own right, each presenting unique arguments.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:10 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
It's likely illegal because it's a coordinated, intentional act of spam. If you wanted to submit proposals on the same topic, you'd be better off fusing all of the proposals into just one document.

It's not spam, given that it's done with a point beyond annoying others, though that is an objective. Plus, each of the resolutions would be a legal and carefully-written resolution in their own right, each presenting unique arguments.


You could just have one submitted resolution with all or most of the unique arguments rather than several.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:24 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:It's not spam, given that it's done with a point beyond annoying others, though that is an objective. Plus, each of the resolutions would be a legal and carefully-written resolution in their own right, each presenting unique arguments.


You could just have one submitted resolution with all or most of the unique arguments rather than several.

But that defeats the purpose--its goal is to control the queue as a means to enact political change.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:44 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
You could just have one submitted resolution with all or most of the unique arguments rather than several.

But that defeats the purpose--its goal is to control the queue as a means to enact political change.

The intent is clearly to spam. Spam with a purpose, perhaps. But nonetheless, it's to filibuster the queue unnecessarily. Intent matters, and if you're coordinating, the intent is pretty clear.

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:16 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:But that defeats the purpose--its goal is to control the queue as a means to enact political change.

The intent is clearly to spam. Spam with a purpose, perhaps. But nonetheless, it's to filibuster the queue unnecessarily. Intent matters, and if you're coordinating, the intent is pretty clear.

This exactly. Don't do it.

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Postby Copperward » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:16 pm

Is there an archive of committees established by the GA? And are there any existing committees dedicated to the protection and well-being of the mentally ill?

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Postby Stoskavanya » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:16 pm

Merni recently created an updated list of all WA Committees viewtopic.php?f=9&t=437605

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Postby Copperward » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:17 pm

Stoskavanya wrote:Merni recently created an updated list of all WA Committees viewtopic.php?f=9&t=437605

Awesome! Thanks for referring me to the forum thread!

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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:43 pm

Nimalwa wrote:How do I make a proposal?

Start by posting a draft in this forum.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:09 am

Christian Democrats wrote:
Nimalwa wrote:How do I make a proposal?

Start by posting a draft in this forum.

^^ Also, consult the rules and advice stickied to the top of the GA subforum.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:48 am

Question: on my regions RMB a poster asked if any non-WA nation can receive a commendation or condemnation. I would also like clarification on this as well as a legality.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:46 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:Question: on my regions RMB a poster asked if any non-WA nation can receive a commendation or condemnation. I would also like clarification on this as well as a legality.

You should be asking in the SC rather than here, but: Yes, they can.
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Postby Of Middle Earth » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:55 pm

So the WA general assembly passes legislation, what happens if you don't follow it eg. in the most current something about corruption, what if i do the opposite?
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Postby Stoskavanya » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:07 pm

Of Middle Earth wrote:So the WA general assembly passes legislation, what happens if you don't follow it eg. in the most current something about corruption, what if i do the opposite?

Being candid, nothing. During drafting and debate the author presumes that every nation will be compliant with the resolution. If you choose to profess your noncompliance, you will probably just be ignored.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:38 pm

Of Middle Earth wrote:So the WA general assembly passes legislation, what happens if you don't follow it eg. in the most current something about corruption, what if i do the opposite?

Compliance with WA law is mandatory, but from a forum perspective there really isn't anything keeping you from posting as if your nation is noncompliant. People in this subforum won't appreciate it and will likely ignore you, but you are free to RP noncompliance.
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Postby Steneste » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:39 pm

So, I am relatively new to this sight, and I would just like to know what I should/could do to help improve anything if at all possible.

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