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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:12 pm

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The Cuatmono Regions wrote:Does anyone know if there are any bills that have been passed regarding to restricting abortion?

Here and here. Both expand, rather than reduce, the right to have an abortion.

I ought also note that a contradiction rule exists. "Proposals which conflict with explicit clauses within an active resolution will be removed."

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Postby Bakhton » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:59 am

Is the GenSec an IC organization?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:07 am

Bakhton wrote:Is the GenSec an IC organization?

Not in effect. I guess you could refer to it a the Secretariat, the way we historically referred to the mods.

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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:17 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Bakhton wrote:Is the GenSec an IC organization?

Not in effect. I guess you could refer to it a the Secretariat, the way we historically referred to the mods.

I still use "Secretariat" for mods, since they're still the ones that actually remove the proposals. Though I've taken to advicing newbies entirely OOCly.

Mind you, I don't see why GenSec couldn't be mentioned in IC. We could just pretend you guys are a bunch of gnomes.... :P
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:27 am

Araraukar wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Not in effect. I guess you could refer to it a the Secretariat, the way we historically referred to the mods.

I still use "Secretariat" for mods, since they're still the ones that actually remove the proposals. Though I've taken to advicing newbies entirely OOCly.

Mind you, I don't see why GenSec couldn't be mentioned in IC. We could just pretend you guys are a bunch of gnomes.... :P

The name that I suggested for our group, bearing in mind previous usage of 'Secretariat' as a reference to the Mods, was 'Counsel to the Secretariat'.
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Postby Kitzerland » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:10 pm

What do the terms "NatSov" and "IntFed" mean?
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:14 pm

Kitzerland wrote:What do the terms "NatSov" and "IntFed" mean?

'National Sovereigntist' and 'International Federalist'. They basically mean nothing nowadays.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:01 pm

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Kitzerland wrote:What do the terms "NatSov" and "IntFed" mean?

'National Sovereigntist' and 'International Federalist'. They basically mean nothing nowadays.

In very general terms NatSov people think everything (or almost everything) should be left to the nations to decide for themselves. IntFed people (I don't know if we actually have any of these around anymore, everyone's more or less NatSov) on the other hand think that most things would be best legislated upon internationally with only minor things being left up to the nations themselves.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:40 pm

Kitzerland wrote:What do the terms "NatSov" and "IntFed" mean?

In American terms:

NatSov = I support states' rights.
IntFed = I support the central government.
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Postby Bakhton » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:23 pm

Araraukar wrote:
States of Glory WA Office wrote:'National Sovereigntist' and 'International Federalist'. They basically mean nothing nowadays.

In very general terms NatSov people think everything (or almost everything) should be left to the nations to decide for themselves. IntFed people (I don't know if we actually have any of these around anymore, everyone's more or less NatSov) on the other hand think that most things would be best legislated upon internationally with only minor things being left up to the nations themselves.

What happened the IntFed? Burn out?
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:13 pm

Bakhton wrote:What happened the IntFed? Burn out?

You'd have to ask them. I can't remember who played on that side. But even NatSov is now... Well, way back when IntFed and NatSov were considered to be the polar opposites. Now most people around go for "reasonable NatSov", which might be summed up as "deal with international issues with international laws and national issues with national laws". Of course arguments abound about what counts as an international issue, and that's why it's the most commonly asked question on new drafts... :P
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:46 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Bakhton wrote:What happened the IntFed? Burn out?

You'd have to ask them. I can't remember who played on that side. But even NatSov is now... Well, way back when IntFed and NatSov were considered to be the polar opposites. Now most people around go for "reasonable NatSov", which might be summed up as "deal with international issues with international laws and national issues with national laws". Of course arguments abound about what counts as an international issue, and that's why it's the most commonly asked question on new drafts... :P


Well, people say to some extreme drafts as: "Oh, NatSovers aren't going to like that." Are anybody ever going to say, "Oh, IntFeders aren't going to like that" to anything?
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Postby Bakhton » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:54 pm

The Atlae Isles wrote:
Araraukar wrote:You'd have to ask them. I can't remember who played on that side. But even NatSov is now... Well, way back when IntFed and NatSov were considered to be the polar opposites. Now most people around go for "reasonable NatSov", which might be summed up as "deal with international issues with international laws and national issues with national laws". Of course arguments abound about what counts as an international issue, and that's why it's the most commonly asked question on new drafts... :P


Well, people say to some extreme drafts as: "Oh, NatSovers aren't going to like that." Are anybody ever going to say, "Oh, IntFeders aren't going to like that" to anything?


Standards they disagree with probably. :p
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:56 pm

Bakhton wrote:
The Atlae Isles wrote:
Well, people say to some extreme drafts as: "Oh, NatSovers aren't going to like that." Are anybody ever going to say, "Oh, IntFeders aren't going to like that" to anything?


Standards they disagree with probably. :p


I'll just use it from now on. :)

Let's see if I can bring it back.
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:22 am

Bakhton wrote:
The Atlae Isles wrote:Well, people say to some extreme drafts as: "Oh, NatSovers aren't going to like that." Are anybody ever going to say, "Oh, IntFeders aren't going to like that" to anything?

Standards they disagree with probably. :p

The Atlae Isles wrote:I'll just use it from now on. :)

EDIT: Let's see if I can bring it back.

Please don't do it just for the sake of doing it. If you actually want to try to RP as IntFed then go for it, but no catchphrases for the sake of dead memes, please.
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Postby Kitzerland » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:59 am

The Atlae Isles wrote:
Araraukar wrote:You'd have to ask them. I can't remember who played on that side. But even NatSov is now... Well, way back when IntFed and NatSov were considered to be the polar opposites. Now most people around go for "reasonable NatSov", which might be summed up as "deal with international issues with international laws and national issues with national laws". Of course arguments abound about what counts as an international issue, and that's why it's the most commonly asked question on new drafts... :P


Well, people say to some extreme drafts as: "Oh, NatSovers aren't going to like that." Are anybody ever going to say, "Oh, IntFeders aren't going to like that" to anything?

I guess you could say that about a repeal of GA 1.
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Postby Frustrated Franciscans » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:18 pm

Bakhton wrote:What happened the IntFed? Burn out?


I"m not exactly sure. There was a general burn out in terms of massive resolutions in the first place. A few of the major IntFed leaning players left the game or was thrown out (repeatedly I might add). A few just stopped being active in the WA (but that's also true for NatSov as well).

Look at the first few pages of the WA resolutions and compare them to the last few pages. There has been a vast change in the overall strength of resolutions.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:30 am

Araraukar wrote:
Bakhton wrote:What happened the IntFed? Burn out?

You'd have to ask them. I can't remember who played on that side. But even NatSov is now... Well, way back when IntFed and NatSov were considered to be the polar opposites. Now most people around go for "reasonable NatSov", which might be summed up as "deal with international issues with international laws and national issues with national laws". Of course arguments abound about what counts as an international issue, and that's why it's the most commonly asked question on new drafts... :P

Actually, most of the 'NatSovs' who used to post fairly regularly in this forum (& its precursor) were what you're calling "reasonable NatSov" -- and we tended then to call "moderate NatSov" -- anyway: The 'stronger' sort tended not to join in the first place, or joined [for one reason or another, such as regional control] but then mostly ignored the forums and just threw their votes into the 'Against' side e.g. the leadership in the region named 'Gatesville'...
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Postby Bakhton » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:34 pm

What's the worst resolution that's ever been passed?
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:49 pm

Bakhton wrote:What's the worst resolution that's ever been passed?

"Reproductive Freedoms"
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:26 am

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Bakhton wrote:What's the worst resolution that's ever been passed?

"Reproductive Freedoms"

"World Space Administration"
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:37 am

Bakhton wrote:What's the worst resolution that's ever been passed?

"Standardised Passport Act".
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Postby Frustrated Franciscans » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:54 am

Bakhton wrote:What's the worst resolution that's ever been passed?


Max Barry Day?
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:04 am

Frustrated Franciscans wrote:
Bakhton wrote:What's the worst resolution that's ever been passed?

Max Barry Day?

I thought the idea was to be restricted to NSWA resolutions, but if NSUN ones are allowed, then yeah, ^that one.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:06 am

World Space Administration. By far.

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