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Postby Araraukar » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:48 pm

A Humanist Science wrote:Can Player B, in the course of contributing to the discussion in Player A's draft thread, specifically mention her own draft and/or link to her draft thread? Can she do so IC? Only OOC? Is it technically allowed, but considered bad form? etc.

Technically allowed - not like we can stop you - but considered very bad form.

You can mention that you're working on the same issue ICly or OOCly - in which case you'll likely get the suggestion that the two of you should consider joining forces and co-author one proposal on the issue - but direct linking tends to be considered "pimping your own proposal" and earns you more frowns than thumbs-ups.
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Postby A Humanist Science » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:50 pm

Araraukar wrote:
A Humanist Science wrote:Can Player B, in the course of contributing to the discussion in Player A's draft thread, specifically mention her own draft and/or link to her draft thread? Can she do so IC? Only OOC? Is it technically allowed, but considered bad form? etc.

Technically allowed - not like we can stop you - but considered very bad form.

You can mention that you're working on the same issue ICly or OOCly - in which case you'll likely get the suggestion that the two of you should consider joining forces and co-author one proposal on the issue - but direct linking tends to be considered "pimping your own proposal" and earns you more frowns than thumbs-ups.

(emphasis added)

Yep, that seems pretty common sense. Thanks! :D

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat May 14, 2016 9:56 am

Is there a World Assembly IRC channel? If not, is there any interest in one?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat May 14, 2016 10:12 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:Is there a World Assembly IRC channel? If not, is there any interest in one?

I am unaware of one. The only IRC channels which people actively and regularly use, in my limited experience, are #tnp and #trr. Europe just got an IRC channel at #ns-europe, but I am unaware of any #wa or anything, but I just registered it just in case.

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Postby Sciongrad » Sat May 14, 2016 10:16 am

Kaboomlandia wrote:Is there a World Assembly IRC channel? If not, is there any interest in one?

I think there was one, actually, called #WAElites, but I never used it. Despite its name, I don't think it was limited to "elites" or whatever, either. To my knowledge, one does not exist today.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat May 14, 2016 10:17 am

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Kaboomlandia wrote:Is there a World Assembly IRC channel? If not, is there any interest in one?

I think there was one, actually, called #WAElites, but I never used it. Despite its name, I don't think it was limited to "elites" or whatever, either. To my knowledge, one does not exist today.

#WAElites no longer exists. It CTE'd.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 23, 2016 7:33 pm

What happened to the rules consortium forum? There were quite a number of interesting threads in there.

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Postby Araraukar » Mon May 23, 2016 8:54 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:What happened to the rules consortium forum? There were quite a number of interesting threads in there.

In the Archives: viewforum.php?f=36

EDIT: Which I guess means... nothing really came out of it.

2nd EDIT: Thanks a lot, Leppi. Some of us might've wanted to explore possible changes further, or suggest new ones for consideration. :(
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 23, 2016 10:36 pm

Araraukar wrote:2nd EDIT: Thanks a lot, Leppi. Some of us might've wanted to explore possible changes further, or suggest new ones for consideration. :(

You've got a second from me about moving it back so we can discuss possible changes and WA theory.

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon May 23, 2016 10:42 pm

The forum was archived as the bulk of the rules changes have been sorted. There's nothing preventing further discussion of the rules in new threads in this forum. We can also move across specific threads from the Consortium forum for areas that weren't addressed in the rules changes, if requested.

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Postby Mousebumples » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:36 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Sciongrad wrote:I think there was one, actually, called #WAElites, but I never used it. Despite its name, I don't think it was limited to "elites" or whatever, either. To my knowledge, one does not exist today.

#WAElites no longer exists. It CTE'd.

I could recreate it if there's interest in having a place to discuss WA things. There wasn't much activity there, so I removed that channel from my auto-join on IRC ages ago.

The previous channel was on GameSurge (which is where #nationstates & #themodcave are), but #gameplay is on Esper. If there's interest, we could have such a channel on whichever host is preferable.
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[Q] IC WA procedural argument

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:03 pm

Hello,

Would it be legal under the current game mechanics rules to say something like:

> Observing that it is impossible to amend resolutions to patch problems and therefore convinced that the only way to solve this issue is by repealing the target resolution and replacing it with a new resolution without the aforementioned flaws;

I would argue that this is in character and from the perspective of the World Assembly. Thus, it ought be within the confines of that rule. Furthermore, allowing argumentation on this line would assist tremendously in explaining the problems of WA procedure to the general public and thereby assist repeal-replace attempts.
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Postby Wrapper » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:06 pm

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:Would it be legal under the current game mechanics rules to say something like:

> Observing that it is impossible to amend resolutions to patch problems and therefore convinced that the only way to solve this issue is by repealing the target resolution and replacing it with a new resolution without the aforementioned flaws;

I would argue that this is in character and from the perspective of the World Assembly. Thus, it ought be within the confines of that rule. Furthermore, allowing argumentation on this line would assist tremendously in explaining the problems of WA procedure to the general public and thereby assist repeal-replace attempts.

Actually, you're thinking of the meta-gaming rule (breaking the "fourth wall"). But, yes, as long as our IC ambassadors know something to be true, such as the fact that resolutions can't be amended, then it doesn't break the "fourth wall".

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:39 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Hello,

Would it be legal under the current game mechanics rules to say something like:

> Observing that it is impossible to amend resolutions to patch problems and therefore convinced that the only way to solve this issue is by repealing the target resolution and replacing it with a new resolution without the aforementioned flaws;

I would argue that this is in character and from the perspective of the World Assembly. Thus, it ought be within the confines of that rule. Furthermore, allowing argumentation on this line would assist tremendously in explaining the problems of WA procedure to the general public and thereby assist repeal-replace attempts.

Would we have to add this line to every repeal from here on out? Because it's an issue during every repeal vote. :p
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:20 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Hello,

Would it be legal under the current game mechanics rules to say something like:

> Observing that it is impossible to amend resolutions to patch problems and therefore convinced that the only way to solve this issue is by repealing the target resolution and replacing it with a new resolution without the aforementioned flaws;

I would argue that this is in character and from the perspective of the World Assembly. Thus, it ought be within the confines of that rule. Furthermore, allowing argumentation on this line would assist tremendously in explaining the problems of WA procedure to the general public and thereby assist repeal-replace attempts.

Would we have to add this line to every repeal from here on out? Because it's an issue during every repeal vote. :p

It's a very helpful line!

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:15 am

In that case, perhaps it should be added the resolution automatically? Just like the "Resolution #xx is stricken out and declared null" boilerplate. 8)
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:18 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:In that case, perhaps it should be added the resolution automatically? Just like the "Resolution #xx is stricken out and declared null" boilerplate. 8)

And that existing boilerplate phrase really should count as the repeals clause...
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:20 am

Araraukar wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:In that case, perhaps it should be added the resolution automatically? Just like the "Resolution #xx is stricken out and declared null" boilerplate. 8)

And that existing boilerplate phrase really should count as the repeals clause...

Quite!

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Postby Louisistan » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:15 am

Araraukar wrote:
Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:In that case, perhaps it should be added the resolution automatically? Just like the "Resolution #xx is stricken out and declared null" boilerplate. 8)

And that existing boilerplate phrase really should count as the repeals clause...

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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:27 pm

Has there been any legislation regarding the limits of airspace?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:16 pm

Ardoki wrote:Has there been any legislation regarding the limits of airspace?

Yes. Search the Passed Resolutions thread for the word 'airspace' (or similar words, like 'air', 'space', etc).

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Jun 10, 2016 9:18 pm

Secondarily, may I implore the moderators to append, at the bottom of their rulings, some kind of search tag that would allow for that ruling to be easily found? It will, due to phpBB, have to be a single 'word', perhaps something like #secretariatruling.

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Postby Wrapper » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:12 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Secondarily, may I implore the moderators to append, at the bottom of their rulings, some kind of search tag that would allow for that ruling to be easily found? It will, due to phpBB, have to be a single 'word', perhaps something like #secretariatruling.

I'm prefacing every official ruling with "Ruling of the Secretariat". That should suffice.

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Or search the imgur link for the flashing lights.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:27 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:Or search the imgur link for the flashing lights.

Is that always the same? And also I don't think everyone uses that.
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