General Assembly Q&A

[Separatist Peoples]

Question: Is sending telegrams to regional delegates (to convince them to approve) campaigning too much?

No. That is what a campaign is. If you dislike it, you can change your settings to block campaign telegrams.

[Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana]

Question: Is sending telegrams to regional delegates (to convince them to approve) campaigning too much?

No. That is what a campaign is. If you dislike it, you can change your settings to block campaign telegrams.

Wonderful.

[Mousebumples]

No. That is what a campaign is. If you dislike it, you can change your settings to block campaign telegrams.

Wonderful.

Just make sure you mark your telegram as *campaign* before you send it.

[Caracasus]

Quick question, before I bother to write anything up. I want to propose something to do with collecting flora and fauna from areas under threat from either man-made or natural disaster (logging, mining or climate shifts). The aim is to preserve these as possible sources of research.

As far as I can figure, this'd fall under health-research. Clearly not environmental as it does not stop logging or mining, rather proposes a scientific survey to preserve samples beforehand. What do you think?

[Sobaira]

Quick question, before I bother to write anything up. I want to propose something to do with collecting flora and fauna from areas under threat from either man-made or natural disaster (logging, mining or climate shifts). The aim is to preserve these as possible sources of research.

As far as I can figure, this'd fall under health-research. Clearly not environmental as it does not stop logging or mining, rather proposes a scientific survey to preserve samples beforehand. What do you think?

OOC: In light of the now repealed resolution 92, this may be Education and Creativity-Educational. That would cover researching things, based on that precedent and on a look at the brief description of the category, and would let you have the research not be limited to health related research, I think? Granted, I'm new, so huge grain of salt and all.

[Caracasus]

Quick question, before I bother to write anything up. I want to propose something to do with collecting flora and fauna from areas under threat from either man-made or natural disaster (logging, mining or climate shifts). The aim is to preserve these as possible sources of research.

As far as I can figure, this'd fall under health-research. Clearly not environmental as it does not stop logging or mining, rather proposes a scientific survey to preserve samples beforehand. What do you think?

OOC: In light of the now repealed resolution 92, this may be Education and Creativity-Educational. That would cover researching things, based on that precedent and on a look at the brief description of the category, and would let you have the research not be limited to health related research, I think? Granted, I'm new, so huge grain of salt and all.

Good point - I was wondering about that category - especially as there is no clear sign that the data collected would be exclusively useful to health.

[Mousebumples]

OOC: In light of the now repealed resolution 92, this may be Education and Creativity-Educational. That would cover researching things, based on that precedent and on a look at the brief description of the category, and would let you have the research not be limited to health related research, I think? Granted, I'm new, so huge grain of salt and all.

Good point - I was wondering about that category - especially as there is no clear sign that the data collected would be exclusively useful to health.

I could see it fitting under Health:Research or Education&Creativity:Eductional ... depending on how you work out the text. Why are you wanting WA nations to collect flora and fauna? That might help determine what category you should look at.

[Caracasus]

Good point - I was wondering about that category - especially as there is no clear sign that the data collected would be exclusively useful to health.

I could see it fitting under Health:Research or Education&Creativity:Eductional ... depending on how you work out the text. Why are you wanting WA nations to collect flora and fauna? That might help determine what category you should look at.

Basically FOR SCIENCE! I'll leave it up to those more patient to draft anything do do with environmental laws....

[Atomic Utopia]

Would it be possible to attach some clauses to a piece of legislation that demand that something be done related to the category the legislation is in but not specifically part of the legislation. ie. animal rights legislation that outlaws chewing gum in the name of moral decency.

So basically a rider.

[Phydios]

Would it be possible to attach some clauses to a piece of legislation that demand that something be done related to the category the legislation is in but not specifically part of the legislation. ie. animal rights legislation that outlaws chewing gum in the name of moral decency.

So basically a rider.

Wouldn't that be a category violation? I think your example would be, at least.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Would it be possible to attach some clauses to a piece of legislation that demand that something be done related to the category the legislation is in but not specifically part of the legislation. ie. animal rights legislation that outlaws chewing gum in the name of moral decency.

So basically a rider.

Wouldn't that be a category violation? I think your example would be, at least.

Wouldn't outlawing chewing gum in the name of moral decency be a moral decency resolution? Just as animal rights is?

[Atomic Utopia]

Would it be possible to attach some clauses to a piece of legislation that demand that something be done related to the category the legislation is in but not specifically part of the legislation. ie. animal rights legislation that outlaws chewing gum in the name of moral decency.

So basically a rider.

Wouldn't that be a category violation? I think your example would be, at least.

Yes, but I am not concerned about the validity of my example, moreover am I concerned about the validity of riders. If there is nothing that says I cannot do so, I will start up making a proposal with a rider to test this. Mind, it will not be a stupid proposal, or a stupid rider, I just want to know if it is possible.

[Atomic Utopia]

Are there any regulations on police corruption, and would some legislation regarding police corruption be a good idea?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Are there any regulations on police corruption, and would some legislation regarding police corruption be a good idea?

Do you mean corruption or brutality?

[Atomic Utopia]

Are there any regulations on police corruption, and would some legislation regarding police corruption be a good idea?

Do you mean corruption or brutality?

I said corruption, did I not? I was originally thinking of brutality, but that would have too much opposition form the denziens of the WA, but if it would be better to do brutality, I will.

[Atomic Utopia]

I know this is doubleposting, but I have a new idea. A thread devoted to finding loopholes in WA legislation. It would allow honest legislators to write improved versions and possibly earn me a badge.

So would such a thread be allowed?

[Imperium Anglorum]

I know this is doubleposting, but I have a new idea. A thread devoted to finding loopholes in WA legislation. It would allow honest legislators to write improved versions and possibly earn me a badge.

So would such a thread be allowed?

It is allowed since it would be RP (if it isn't then this is news to me). I used to have a thread for that purpose in my signature, but it was removed when I took the Delegacy for a week. This is it, if you're interested. OMGTKK also had a similar thing, the Creative Solutions Agency. Basically, just figure out your creative compliance for a resolution you don't really entirely like.

Why we would need a thread, I don't entirely know. Perhaps it would be a nice complement to the Stranger's Bar. The Compliance Underground? The Drunk Lawyer's Club? The Diogenes Club? The Bathroom on the Third Floor? (If you make a thread, make it a good one. Format it correctly, set up the atmosphere, give it a good name, do some quality RP).

Me personally, I don't believe in magical compliance. I guess I inherited what was Auralia's sentiment on the matter — I would have to believe that creative compliance is a thing and that it should be welcomed as another manner of RP. I'd support such a thread, but I've already got my good old Imperial Committee of the Privy Council for the Judiciary. Also, if you didn't know, sneaky bastard Parsons is on it.

[Atomic Utopia]

I was just noting how many resolutions do not define... things, imprtant things, things that could be interpreted and re-defined in many ways. For example, that stupid space resolution does not define cosmos. I determined that cosmos described a certain kind of ornimental plant, thus I am regulating transportation through the cosmos in full compliance with the resolution.


Definition:
cos·mos2
ˈkäzməs,ˈkäzˌmōs,ˈkäzˌmäs/
noun
noun: cosmos; plural noun: cosmoses
an ornamental plant of the daisy family with single dahlialike flowers. Native to tropical America, it is widely grown as an ornamental.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Oh no, not that. Something like that would be ridiculous. You can't simply just redefine terms just because they weren't perfectly defined in the legislation. You've still got to follow the dictionary on the subject if it isn't defined. Now... if the dictionary says that cosmos are ornamental plants (that is, a real world dictionary like the OED, I'd be fine with that). Can't speak for everyone else on this subject though.

[Atomic Utopia]

Oh no, not that. Something like that would be ridiculous. You can't simply just redefine terms just because they weren't perfectly defined in the legislation. You've still got to follow the dictionary on the subject if it isn't defined. Now... if the dictionary says that cosmos are ornamental plants (that is, a real world dictionary like the OED, I'd be fine with that). Can't speak for everyone else on this subject though.

Of course I shall follow the dictionary. But if they do not tell me what definition to use, how can I know witch one to use. All I can tell is that they meant one of them, thus I can take my pick of the meanings from the dictionary.

Oh, I got it from here, second definition:


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/de ... ish/cosmos

[Imperium Anglorum]

You've still got to observe the context. Legal interpretation has a number of rules which must be maintained — things like these. The main reason this has never happened is because nobody wants to be bound by a set of RP rules regarding how they can and cannot interpret legislation.

I love to go all willy-nilly on the subject, especially with things like On Universal Jurisdiction, where I established that "The Judicial Committee held that 'due to the status of the Empire and its staff, any such trials held in the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council meeting in The Colony of Cooper Station or The Obvious Puppet of Transilia will hence require that the Empire cannot prosecute these persons in the Home territories'"; one of Separatist People's war resolutions, where I twisted 'or' to only mean the exclusive 'or' and not the inclusive 'or'; etc.

A thread would be interesting, but it would very quickly get either bogged down in new players running in and botching all the rules or old players not wanting to be constrained by them.

[Zombieia]

Which is the top regional influence level?

[Imperium Anglorum]

Which is the top regional influence level?

GIYF: viewtopic.php?p=4941653#labels

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Not really a question for the GA, however.

[Frustrated Franciscans]

Quick question: I know there is a general movement to reconsider the rules, but does the House of Cards violation cover repeals? Since a repeal cannot be repealed, and since a resolution cannot be repealed while a repeal resolution is under vote, is it possible to mention other specific resolutions when making an argument to repeal.

In other words, under the existing ruling set, if I am making a repeal argument against WA #286, can I mention WA #128 and WA #29 as a part of the argument for repeal?