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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:46 pm

Raporia wrote:is it only delegates that can approve or all member nations?

Only delegates can approve. All members can vote.

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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:48 am

Is it considered plagiarism if i get a translation online?
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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:52 am

Raporia wrote:Is it considered plagiarism if i get a translation online?

Are you asking if it's acceptable to write your own proposal in your own native language and, then, to get something (e.g., Google Translate) to translate it for you into English?
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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:59 am

Christian Democrats wrote:
Raporia wrote:Is it considered plagiarism if i get a translation online?

Are you asking if it's acceptable to write your own proposal in your own native language and, then, to get something (e.g., Google Translate) to translate it for you into English?


Nope, it's like:

The definition of Domestic is yada yada yada but all of the yada came from Merriam Webster
Mea Ounike Englitshch Bringeths Ellth Da Boysths Inth Da Yarth Andeth Thereth Liketh "It's Exaggerated Shakespearean" Yeath Rith, ""It's Exaggerated Shakespearean". Ith Couleth Teacthethths Buth Ith Haveth Toth Charthesthethstheechsheth

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Postby Christian Democrats » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:11 am

Raporia wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:Are you asking if it's acceptable to write your own proposal in your own native language and, then, to get something (e.g., Google Translate) to translate it for you into English?

Nope, it's like:

The definition of Domestic is yada yada yada but all of the yada came from Merriam Webster

It's plagiarism to use, word for word, a definition that you found elsewhere.
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GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:13 am

Christian Democrats wrote:
Raporia wrote:Nope, it's like:

The definition of Domestic is yada yada yada but all of the yada came from Merriam Webster

It's plagiarism to use, word for word, a definition that you found elsewhere.


Is it also plagiarism if some words are change?
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Postby Thyerata » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:19 am

Raporia wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:It's plagiarism to use, word for word, a definition that you found elsewhere.


Is it also plagiarism if some words are change?


I would say that the best approach is that instead of continually asking hypotheticals, open a drafting thread, post your draft resolution there, and then we can fully answer you, and generally help you fine-tune it.
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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:25 am

[Draft]Domestic Workers Act (UPDATED)
Look it up
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Postby Thyerata » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:34 am

Raporia wrote:[Draft]Domestic Workers Act (UPDATED)
Look it up


Link please? By the way, we're trying to help. Snark isn't necessary
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Postby Raporia » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:59 am

Thyerata wrote:
Raporia wrote:[Draft]Domestic Workers Act (UPDATED)
Look it up


Link please? By the way, we're trying to help. Snark isn't necessary

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=419338
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Postby Dignatius » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:56 pm

How do you get endorsements to be able to propose resolutions?

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:41 pm

Dignatius wrote:How do you get endorsements to be able to propose resolutions?

The simplest way is to be in a large region full of WA members. Endorse active WA members, and they'll usually endorse you back.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:48 pm

Dignatius wrote:How do you get endorsements to be able to propose resolutions?

Adding onto the above – generally, just walk into a feeder (the Pacific or the X Pacific) and ask.

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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:51 am

Adding onto the above _ However, it is STRONGLY recommended that you draft your proposals in the relevant section of the forums, and wait for comments from more experienced authors, instead of just going straight to the submission stage.
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Postby Larebiloen » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:45 pm

So, just to clarify, does amending a previous resolution always require an initial full repeal?

For example, the WA General Fund legislation currently bans deficit spending by the WA. Let's say I want to amend that and craft a proposal that allows the WA to issue bonds. Does that mean the entire WA General Fund would have to be repealed first? Seems drastic.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:11 pm

Larebiloen wrote:So, just to clarify, does amending a previous resolution always require an initial full repeal?

For example, the WA General Fund legislation currently bans deficit spending by the WA. Let's say I want to amend that and craft a proposal that allows the WA to issue bonds. Does that mean the entire WA General Fund would have to be repealed first? Seems drastic.

Well, you can't amend. All amendments to any proposal would require the repeal and replacement of that resolution. And I'd argue that it is possible to say that the WA can issue bonds – deficit spending only applies of those bonds are not repaid – definitionally, if they are repaid, an organisation has raised more funds than were expended upon their repayment. The given period spoken of in most reasonable definitions of 'deficit' can be many different periods, and the WA has a vested interest in interpreting that as liberally as possible.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:25 am

Larebiloen wrote:So, just to clarify, does amending a previous resolution always require an initial full repeal?

For example, the WA General Fund legislation currently bans deficit spending by the WA. Let's say I want to amend that and craft a proposal that allows the WA to issue bonds. Does that mean the entire WA General Fund would have to be repealed first? Seems drastic.


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Postby Essu Beti » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:45 pm

Would it be permissible to write up a proposal that my nation ICly would want to pass but that I OOCly would not, without the intention of it ever going to vote? Or would that irk people OOCly?
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Postby WA Kitty Kops » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:58 pm

Essu Beti wrote:Would it be permissible to write up a proposal that my nation ICly would want to pass but that I OOCly would not, without the intention of it ever going to vote? Or would that irk people OOCly?

I don't think there's any exact rule for it, except the mods might move it into the joke proposal thread. Or it could be classified as spam, but mostly, why would you go into the trouble to write one you, the player, don't want to try to pass?
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Postby Lexicor » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:11 pm

WA Kitty Kops wrote:
Essu Beti wrote:Would it be permissible to write up a proposal that my nation ICly would want to pass but that I OOCly would not, without the intention of it ever going to vote? Or would that irk people OOCly?

I don't think there's any exact rule for it, except the mods might move it into the joke proposal thread. Or it could be classified as spam, but mostly, why would you go into the trouble to write one you, the player, don't want to try to pass?


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Postby Essu Beti » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:18 pm

WA Kitty Kops wrote:I don't think there's any exact rule for it, except the mods might move it into the joke proposal thread. Or it could be classified as spam, but mostly, why would you go into the trouble to write one you, the player, don't want to try to pass?


For roleplaying purposes, basically. Essu Beti is a very religious nation, so it makes sense that at some point the authorities would hand Iksana a religion-based proposal to present to the WA.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:31 pm

Lexicor wrote:I write drafts that I have no intention of submitting to practice my skills. <3

... and it's very annoying at times to see new threads from you every day. It's not necessarily a good thing to do.

I'd suggest a Remedial Writing Course thread, but the people who need it most would never post there.

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Postby WA Kitty Kops » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:14 pm

Lexicor wrote:I write drafts that I have no intention of submitting to practice my skills. <3

That can quickly lead to people getting fed up with helping you, though.
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Postby Tinfect » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:37 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:I'd suggest a Remedial Writing Course thread, but the people who need it most would never post there.


Maybe, but some front-line source of 'here's what a proposal should look and sound like:' might be valuable as one of the pinned threads. Of course, if people bothered to peruse the Passed Resolutions list, it wouldn't be needed, and if they won't check that, there's not a good chance they'll check a 'GA Standards of Drafting Thread'.
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Postby Essu Beti » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:55 pm

Are there no more comments on my question?
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The Ambassador of Essu Beti is Iksana Gayan and he's an elf. He’s irritable and a damn troll and everything he says is IC only. I would never be so tactless OOC.

National News Radio: A large-scale infrastructure project will soon be underway. During this time, for safety reasons, the island will be closed to tourists and foreign news agents. We do expect a minor loss in revenue due to this, but this will be greatly offset by both the long and short-term benefits of the infrastructure project. If your job is negatively impacted by the island closure, please send a letter or verbal message via courier to the Council so that we can add you to the list of beneficiaries of foreign aid.

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