[DRAFT] Protections of Veterans After Wartime (Edited)

[Louisianan]

Category: Health
Area of Effect: Healthcare

The World Assembly,

Understanding, that wartime can destroy the lives of citizens of member nations

Recognizing, that the government tries it’s best to protect citizens and veterans during wars,

Defines, for the purpose of this proposal, a "Veteran" is a member of the armed forces who was honorably discharged, therefore excluding dishonorably discharged members of the armed forces, as well as those who are being investigated or found guilty of a war crime.

Disappointed, that the government sometimes fails to protect economic stability and domestic tranquility of the veterans after the said war,

Ensures, that veterans must be compensated for their time in a war with legal tender or shelter if need be,

Strongly Urges, all member nations to build facilities to house veterans who either cannot work or who have mental disabilities,

Proclaims, that the veterans in member states DO have the right to refuse any help the governments are prepared to give them unless they are not sane and suffering from mental illness such as schizophrenia which can affect their decision making,

Declares, that families of veterans can be included in these protections if they are also citizens of the nation where they reside,

Prohibits, member nations from supporting another nation’s veterans if they are not currently residing in that nation to ensure that all nations can support their own veterans,

Ensures, that all veterans in member nations are given proper medical assistance such as surgeries or vaccines if needed, whether in home nation or other nation after they are discharged from the force,

Mandates, that member nations cannot make veterans pay for housing unless they are not, in any way, disabled and are deemed fit to work,

[Grays Harbor]

The World Assembly,

Understanding, that wartime can destroy lives of citizens of member nations

Recognizing, that the government tries it’s best to protect citizens and veterans during wars,

Disappointed, that the government fails to protect economic stability of the veterans after said war,
This is a rather broad assumption backed up by no facts whatsoever.

Defines, “Veteran” as any member of the armed forces who was honorably discharged/ retired,
Common knowledge

Ensures, that veterans are compensated for their time in a war with legal tender,
pointless fluff

Defines, “Legal Tender” as any currency used by member nations,
Common knowledge, and a bit pointless. Definitions for the sake of having definitions is not a good start.

Strongly Urges, all member nations to build facilities to house veterans who either cannot work, or who have mental disabilities,

Defines, “Mental Disabilities” as addictions to alcohol or drugs used as medication during wartime in which the veteran served, and as diagnosed illnesses such as PTSD, Depression, or Anxiety,
Another definition for the sake definition.

Hopes, that the veterans who fight for the rights of member nations are properly cared for,
more pointless fluff

Mandates, that the veterans in member states DO have the right to refuse any help the governments give them.
still more pointless fluff

Declares, that PoW may be included in these protections after the war has been finished and fought and they have become legal citizens of the member nation they were being held in,
What the ... ?

Prohibits, member nations (A) from supporting another nation’s (B) veterans if they are not currently residing in that nation (A).
The reason being ... ?

Ensures, that all veterans in member nations are given proper medical assistance if needed, whether in home nation or in other nation after they are discharged from the force,
And how do we do that? How much assistance? Hell, "assistance" could mean some band-aids and a glass of fruit juice.

Strongly Urges, all member nations to give a 10% tax reduction to veterans of wartime.
You cannot mandate or urge domestic tax policy. Period.

1.) Category. Strength/Area of Effect. Without that, this whole thing is meaningless.
2.) Poorly organized. Urge - define - define - etc - etc is not how it's done. Read through some other resolutions to see how they are organized.
3.) The only mandate on nations you have is that vets can do nothing if they want, and that could hardly be called a mandate to do anything. You have to do more than suggest and urge.
4.) Telling nations to do something without a clear reason is just arbitrary fluff. There needs to be a reason, a purpose.
5.) Defining common knowledge terms is wasting space and annoying.

[Louisianan]

I'm still accepting comments!!!!

[Separatist Peoples]

"This has a number of issues. Broadly, we fail to see how veteran benefits are an international concern, especially given extant resolutions on standards of living. This seems to mandate governments aid veterans with mental illnesses regardless of their wishes with no regard for whether the illness affects decision-making, and appears to further allow nations to not pay their soldiers so long as shelter is offered. All in all, a poor policy, and poorly executed at that. We suggest the drafting ambassador take some time to consider the transnational impact of veteran affairs and what level of government can best address it."

[Tinhampton]

The skeleton of this proposal looks very similar to Ensuring Veterans Rights. If Dominioan could not respond to me - who had generously offered to overhaul his proposal shortly before abandoning it - over whether I could continue to draft my overhaul separately with his blessing, he probably did not respond to you either.

[Separatist Peoples]

The skeleton of this proposal looks very similar to Ensuring Veterans Rights. If Dominioan could not respond to me - who had generously offered to overhaul his proposal shortly before abandoning it - over whether I could continue to draft my overhaul separately with his blessing, he probably did not respond to you either.

OOC: Similarity is not plagiarism. Lets not.

[Louisianan]

The skeleton of this proposal looks very similar to Ensuring Veterans Rights. If Dominioan could not respond to me - who had generously offered to overhaul his proposal shortly before abandoning it - over whether I could continue to draft my overhaul separately with his blessing, he probably did not respond to you either.

I posted this months ago, abandoned it, and am currently coming back to it. I didn't know about that proposal.

[Imperium Anglorum]

The skeleton of this proposal looks very similar to Ensuring Veterans Rights. If Dominioan could not respond to me - who had generously offered to overhaul his proposal shortly before abandoning it - over whether I could continue to draft my overhaul separately with his blessing, he probably did not respond to you either.

Use of semi-standard formats is not plagiarism. Wet Market Safety Act, (2020) 1 IAM 50 https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=37030705#p37030705

[Louisianan]

Category: Health
Area of Effect: Healthcare

The World Assembly,

Understanding, that wartime can destroy the lives of citizens of member nations

Recognizing, that the government tries it’s best to protect citizens and veterans during wars,

Defines, for the purpose of this proposal, a "Veteran" is a member of the armed forces who was honorably discharged, therefore excluding dishonorably discharged members of the armed forces, as well as those who are being investigated or found guilty of a war crime.

Disappointed, that the government sometimes fails to protect economic stability and domestic tranquility of the veterans after the said war,

Ensures, that veterans must be compensated for their time in a war with legal tender or shelter if need be,

Strongly Urges, all member nations to build facilities to house veterans who either cannot work or who have mental disabilities,

Proclaims, that the veterans in member states DO have the right to refuse any help the governments are prepared to give them unless they are not sane and suffering from mental illness such as schizophrenia which can affect their decision making,

Declares, that families of veterans can be included in these protections if they are also citizens of the nation where they reside,

Prohibits, member nations from supporting another nation’s veterans if they are not currently residing in that nation to ensure that all nations can support their own veterans,

Ensures, that all veterans in member nations are given proper medical assistance such as surgeries or vaccines if needed, whether in home nation or other nation after they are discharged from the force,

Mandates, that member nations cannot make veterans pay for housing unless they are not, in any way, disabled and are deemed fit to work,

I have just edited it to include the suggestion given to me to discuss mental illness.

[Thermodolia]

Category: Health
Area of Effect: Healthcare

The World Assembly,

Understanding, that wartime can destroy the lives of citizens of member nations

Maybe don’t go to war then. Problem solved. I should get a prize for this.

Recognizing, that the government tries it’s best to protect citizens and veterans during wars,

Wait are we supposed to do that? I thought war was a meat grinder?

Defines, for the purpose of this proposal, a "Veteran" is a member of the armed forces who was honorably discharged, therefore excluding dishonorably discharged members of the armed forces, as well as those who are being investigated or found guilty of a war crime.

Ambassador just put veteran or a person who hasn’t been found guilty of a war crime. Thermodolia definitely does not have the same discharge system as your nation does so let’s not even try here.

Also what happened to innocent until proven guilty? Thermodolia isn’t about to destroy it’s entire legal system just so some flop can tell us to withhold benefits because someone is under investigation!

Disappointed, that the government sometimes fails to protect economic stability and domestic tranquility of the veterans after the said war,

You mean some governments right ambassador? Because the WA doesn’t even do this and Thermodolia takes care of it’s citizens.

Ensures, that veterans must be compensated for their time in a war with legal tender or shelter if need be,

Thermodolia is not paying for other nations veterans. If they want better shit than maybe they shouldn’t have gone to war because it costs money to go to war. Thermodolia isn’t going to pick up the slack for their stupidity.

Strongly Urges, all member nations to build facilities to house veterans who either cannot work or who have mental disabilities,

Isn’t this just the same as the above line? Or am I missing something?

Proclaims, that the veterans in member states DO have the right to refuse any help the governments are prepared to give them unless they are not sane and suffering from mental illness such as schizophrenia which can affect their decision making,

Ok....

Declares, that families of veterans can be included in these protections if they are also citizens of the nation where they reside,

Not terrible really

Prohibits, member nations from supporting another nation’s veterans if they are not currently residing in that nation to ensure that all nations can support their own veterans,

Remove the part about supporting non citizen veterans residing in a member nation and mandate that only member nations shall take care of their own citizens and we have a deal.

Ensures, that all veterans in member nations are given proper medical assistance such as surgeries or vaccines if needed, whether in home nation or other nation after they are discharged from the force,

Again Thermodolia isn’t going to support other veterans of other nations.

Mandates, that member nations cannot make veterans pay for housing unless they are not, in any way, disabled and are deemed fit to work,

Ok not terrible.

Where’s the operative clause? Did I somehow miss it? Also ambassador please remember to save your edits so everyone can see what’s been changed.

[Attempted Socialism]

Defines, for the purpose of this proposal, a "Veteran" is a member of the armed forces who was honorably discharged, therefore excluding dishonorably discharged members of the armed forces, as well as those who are being investigated or found guilty of a war crime.

Ambassador just put veteran or a person who hasn’t been found guilty of a war crime. Thermodolia definitely does not have the same discharge system as your nation does so let’s not even try here.

Also what happened to innocent until proven guilty? Thermodolia isn’t about to destroy it’s entire legal system just so some flop can tell us to withhold benefits because someone is under investigation

"Ambassador, please do not reveal our intended tactic of investigating soldiers and officers of warring nations for warcrimes, thus ensuring their armed forces are dishonourably discharged."

"As for the draft itself, we do not find it at all necessary to legislate on, we do not believe the purpose is legitimate and we do not think the proposed measures are good. If there is one thing the imperialist yoke will always resolutely abuse, it is the ill-fated patriotic belief of their victims, the common soldiers, who die fighting for the capitalist oppressors. The solution, rather than crumbs from the bourgeois table, is the armed abolition of exploitation and oppression by home-grown capitalists and foreign imperialists. Any resolution that accepts, implicit or explicit, the barbaric practises of liberals, conservatives and fascists will be opposed."