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Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Strong

The General Assembly,

Recognizing the act of Abortion to be both morally wrong and heinous,

Noting that thousands, maybe millions, of infants are killed everyday by this act,

Hereby,

Proposes to limit all abortions by nearly 50%.

"Contradicts the Goddamned GA#286 sadly."

Marxist Germany wrote:"Contradicts the Goddamned GA#286 sadly."

I do not understand.

OOC: pretty sure the right to abortion has been guaranteed by a previous resolution that was passed with a notable majority. While I don't know whether this would contradict with that (although I think it would, considering how this would restrict that freedom to have an abortion), I can already tell you that stating that you're aiming to outright ban abortion later down the line will result in this getting gunned out of the sky almost instantly should it ever reach the voting floor. That you call abortions morally wrong won't help, either.

The WA is notably pro-abortion, or rather, pro- the right to have an abortion as one chooses.

BlackLight Covenant wrote:OOC: pretty sure the right to abortion has been guaranteed by a previous resolution that was passed with a notable majority. While I don't know whether this would contradict with that (although I think it would, considering how this would restrict that freedom to have an abortion), I can already tell you that stating that you're aiming to outright ban abortion later down the line will result in this getting gunned out of the sky almost instantly should it ever reach the voting floor. That you call abortions morally wrong won't help, either.

The WA is notably pro-abortion, or rather, pro- the right to have an abortion as one chooses.

That's disgusting. Abortion is murder.

Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

Legolannd wrote:

Marxist Germany wrote:"Contradicts the Goddamned GA#286 sadly."

I do not understand.

"I believe it is illegal for contradicting GA#286 Reproductive 'Freedoms', ambassador."

The Brytish Isles wrote:Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

Abortion is not a right.

Legolannd wrote:

The Brytish Isles wrote:Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

Abortion is not a right.

The GA has, however undesirable some people might consider this, decided otherwise.

Legolannd wrote:

The Brytish Isles wrote:Current WA legislation compels member-states to guarantee an individual’s right to seek an abortion. This proposal contradicts that piece of legislation and thus is unlawful.

Edit: changed "access" to "right"

Abortion is not a right.

OOC
The GA has, however undesirable some people might consider this, decided otherwise.

Proposal Rules: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348
Passed Resolutions (searchable thread): viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

Bears Armed wrote:

Legolannd wrote:Abortion is not a right.

OOC
The GA has, however undesirable some people might consider this, decided otherwise.

Proposal Rules: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348
Passed Resolutions (searchable thread): viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

Again, it's not a right.

Legolannd wrote:

BlackLight Covenant wrote:-snipping my own post to save space-

That's disgusting. Abortion is murder.

OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

I love this and agree, only I'm not in the WA.


Abortion=Murder

BlackLight Covenant wrote:

Legolannd wrote:That's disgusting. Abortion is murder.

OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

Why? Because people are heartless killars?

San Andrreas wrote:I love this and agree, only I'm not in the WA.


Abortion=Murder

(OOC) That is a moral argument, not one bound in concrete facts.

Legolannd wrote:

BlackLight Covenant wrote:
OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

Why? Because people are heartless killars?

OOC: Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

BlackLight Covenant wrote:

Legolannd wrote:Why? Because people are heartless killars?

Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

Legolannd wrote:

BlackLight Covenant wrote:
Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

Exactly right.

Outboundstagnate wrote:

San Andrreas wrote:I love this and agree, only I'm not in the WA.


Abortion=Murder

(OOC) That is a moral argument, not one bound in concrete facts.

No, it is a FACT. You kill the fetus, you are a murderer.

The only possible way of passing this or any other proposal is to repeal GA#286 and replace it with another piece of WA legislation. However many, many others have attempted to repeal GA#286 and every attempt has failed. It is a waste of time attempting to repeal it.

Legolannd wrote:

BlackLight Covenant wrote:
Probably because people hold complete control and right over one's own body as an important value.

Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

Outboundstagnate wrote:

Legolannd wrote:Oh puh-leas. If you arn't ready to have a child then.... well.... don't.... um...... You know what I mean.

Abortion is not a "Right" or "Choice" or whatever crap people call it. It is the process of KILLING a HUMAN INFANT.

KILLING..... A HUMAN....

(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

A Fetus is a human. it's a living, breathing human being.

Legolannd wrote:

BlackLight Covenant wrote:
OOC: it's not, at least not under current WA law. You'll have to get that one repealed first before you can even remotely ban abortions, and I can already tell you that such a feat is pretty much impossible. There have been so many repeal attempts towards that one, and all have failed.

Why? Because people are heartless killars?

"Liberty above all" - My nation's motto.
In my nation it's up to individuals to decide,the government has no say in the matter - for liberty.

Legolannd wrote:

Outboundstagnate wrote:
(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

A Fetus is a human. it's a living, breathing human being.

Non-human member states constitute a notable percentage of WA membership. These same non-human majority member-states remain committed to GA#286 and abide by WA rulings.

Legolannd wrote:

Outboundstagnate wrote:
(OOC) Defining a fetus as a human is philosophy. Keep your philosophy to yourself and give us facts.

A Fetus is a human. it's a living, breathing human being.

(OOC) That is philisophical.