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PROPOSE: Universal Standard Option of Health Insurance

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PROPOSE: Universal Standard Option of Health Insurance

Postby Mogck » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:07 pm

I am not used to writing proposals, but I believe these points should sum up what should be included in the proposal. I would like an experienced supporter of this legislation to help me write the bill.

Universal Standard Option of Affordable Health Insurance
Strength: Strong
Category: Human Rights

The need for medical coverage is necessary for all people. Not only does it improve lives of others but prevents disease, increases cleanness in poorer areas, and creates jobs worldwide.

OPTIONAL FOR PEOPLE, NOT MANDATORY

-Required to accept all applicants, except illegal aliens and unemployed for over 3 years
-May not charge higher premiums because a person becomes ill
-Prohibits the use of pre-existing conditions to limit or disallow coverage
-Subsidies based upon income of person/business applying
-The 7.2% fee charged to all companies not providing healthcare benefits to employees
-New taxes on individual households earning $380,000 annually or more
-If bill is approved, it will immediately take effect as a World Assembly offered option run through multiple non-WA governments in which a stable economy is present
-All WA member nations are required to have this option or will have to pay .8% of your GDP per fiscal year as a penalty, rates will go up every 2 years by .5%
-Governments with less than 100 million people or an economy of Weak or below are exempt from payments for a year (RP)

DISCUSS please. I will accept endorsements and plan to work to make sure this passes.
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Postby Mogck » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:09 pm

Sorry.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:10 pm

No. Just no. This is so beyond "not required or necessary" that an entire new phrase may need be created just to describe it


(also, "bumping" something 2 minutes after the intitial post is just annoying)
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Postby Flibbleites » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:11 pm

First off, there's no need to bump anything in the GA forum after only 2 minutes.

Secondly, Category & Strength?

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Postby Pan Master » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:19 pm

He put the strength and category as
"Strength: Very Strong
Category: Human Rights"

I wouldn't put it as very strong... Also.. there isn't "very" strong
There is only mild, significant, and strong
I believe putting it as very strong is a bit overloading.
Also, put the title as a DRAFT.. I think we all know it's a proposal if it's in the GA portion of the WA forum
Also, put where the HEREBY would be
"Governments with less than 100 million people or an economy of Weak or below are exempt from payments for a year"
- You mean nations right? Not governments?
- Instead of a Weak economy, it should be Struggling or below
There are probably more things you need to change, but I'll allow the other nations to answer it for you.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:25 pm

Time to poke some holes...

First, you are calling for universal insurance for everybody. OK, many nations already has national health services, socialized medicine, state run medical facilities, whatever.
Second, by stating the insurance program will be mandated to be run by your own nation, Mogck, that is what is called "branding".
Third, this seems to be a very sparse and watered down version of the healthcare reform just passed by the US. NS is NOT the US. Please remember that. Not all NS nations are identical to the US. We do not require laws identical to the US.
Fourth, We hardly see how mandating insurance is an international issue.
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Postby Pan Master » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:31 pm

Like what Grays Harbor said, it isn't simply just the US, but think of NS as the world.
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Postby Quadrimmina » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:36 pm

May I make a suggestion? How about a simple proposal that requires that all nations in the WA offer some basic healthcare necessities to their citizens?

Also, it must be noted that you can't make optional resolutions. It just can't be done.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:47 pm

We would oppose, as we have done in the past, any attempts at universal healthcare or socialized medicine. This is for each nation to decide on their own, not for the WA to mandate.
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Postby Quadrimmina » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:04 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:We would oppose, as we have done in the past, any attempts at universal healthcare or socialized medicine. This is for each nation to decide on their own, not for the WA to mandate.


This is, of course, the decision of the delegation from Grays Harbor. I was simply offering a suggestion for an acceptable proposal.
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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:09 pm

Oh no... While I applaud you for your "socialist" principles, this has been attempted several times (all of which were much better, no offese) and it never seemed to be popular enough amongst the WA.
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Postby Burninati0n » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:22 pm

Just in case there was the need for another resounding "no,"

No.

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Postby Enn » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:16 pm

Why should Enn support a lowering of our standards for Healthcare?

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Postby Quelesh » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:08 am

Quadrimmina wrote:May I make a suggestion? How about a simple proposal that requires that all nations in the WA offer some basic healthcare necessities to their citizens?


I must echo this suggestion from my esteemed colleague from Quadrimmina. A proposal with such specific requirements on this issue of health insurance is very unlikely to succeed.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:45 am

Honoured ambassador from Mogck, I am unable to support the draft as currently written because the draft may not reflect an international point of view. In addition, it may unfairly discriminate disabled persons who are unable to work from having health insurance. In addition, it does not appear to allow member states to provide legislation allowing better access to Health Insurance. Furthermore not all health insurance schemes are state-owned. Finally, it may unfairly penalise small businesses that are unlikely to be able to provide healthcare benefits to their employees.

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Postby Qwcasd » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:43 am

This limits a nations freedom

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Postby Argonius » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:33 am

Unsuccesful, really. We could not accept a reso which interfere on our private sector.

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Postby The Masked Ambassador » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:15 am

Full of illegal stuff, especially things about optionality of the resolution, also some weird clauses and tons of arbitrary numbers... and shows prejudice against aliens, which are species that must be respected just like any other... poor aliens.

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Postby Poree » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:34 am

OCC: What a lot of folks are trying to tell you Mogck is that you may want to read the rules before you try to write a proposal or edit this one.

This proposal does not make sence to us here in Poree and thus we will not be supporting it.
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Postby Mogck » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:25 pm

Enn wrote:Why should Enn support a lowering of our standards for Healthcare?

Stephanie Fulton, of Enn

This is not a lowering of standards but rather an optional, affordable option given to the people of your nation who do not have health insurance.

Mogck
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Postby Enn » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:12 pm

Mogck wrote:
Enn wrote:Why should Enn support a lowering of our standards for Healthcare?

Stephanie Fulton, of Enn

This is not a lowering of standards but rather an optional, affordable option given to the people of your nation who do not have health insurance.

Mogck

Given that we have universal health care, I cannot see how this would do anything for our nation. If it did, it would lower our standards.

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