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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:47 pm

OOC: I suggest pulling this back for now. Its such a great topic and would be a shame to have it go to vote just to fail due to minor errors that would've been caught had the drafting period been longer. trust me it hurts...
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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:47 pm

OOC: Because it was submitted without the fixes, it's most likely currently illegal because clause 2 doesn't specify "registered in member nations" and thus tries to legislate on non-member nations' civilian and commercial vessels as well. I'm also quite seriously annoyed of not having had the courtesy to be offered co-authorship for pretty much a complete rewrite of the draft.

The World Assembly,

Committed to the safety of international shipping and fishing operations in international waters,

Understanding the importance of maritime safety to all World Assembly member nations with coastlines,

Recognizing that there are few organizations established to deal with nautical accidents in international waters,

Believing that previously passed legislation does not go far enough in terms of coordinating disaster response in international waters,

Confident that saving lives and reducing financial losses from nautical accidents is possible with increased international cooperation,

Hereby

1. Requires that member states' navies, coast guards and any similar organizations capable of responding to a declared maritime emergency in international waters, do so, provided that

  1. they have vessels appropriate for the conditions at the accident site available,

  2. are able to dispatch their vessels to the accident site in a timely manner, and

  3. can do so without significant risks to their vessels and personnel;

2. Also requires civilian and commercial vessels and aircraft to lend aid if they are capable of doing so without endangering themselves or the official rescue efforts;

3. Requires that when a maritime emergency has been declared within their reach, member nations share all pertinent information available with the responders, including but not limited to

  1. last known location, cargo manifest and passenger list of the vessel or aircraft in distress,

  2. relevant communication frequencies,

  3. the relative positions of responders to each other and the accident site, and

  4. the nearest safe port available;

4. Clarifies that responders are not to be held responsible for any damage done to the vessel or aircraft that has declared emergency, when the damages occur in order to save lives.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:09 am

3. Requires that when a maritime emergency has been declared within their reach, member nations share all pertinent information available with the responders, including but not limited to
last known location, cargo manifest and passenger list of the vessel or aircraft in distress,
relevant communication frequencies,
the relative positions of responders to each other and the accident site, and
the nearest safe port available;

So if one of your ships is attacked and badly damaged during wartime, and calls for help, you have to disclose this all of this information to any enemy vessels that claim they are trying to save the remaining crew's lives?

Araraukar wrote:OOC: Because it was submitted without the fixes, it's most likely currently illegal because clause 2 doesn't specify "registered in member nations" and thus tries to legislate on non-member nations' civilian and commercial vessels as well.

OOC
Agreed.
Goes to make it so.
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Postby Araraukar » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:31 am

Bears Armed wrote:So if one of your ships is attacked and badly damaged during wartime, and calls for help, you have to disclose this all of this information to any enemy vessels that claim they are trying to save the remaining crew's lives?

OOC: ...would it declare maritime emergency? All the clauses depend on official declaration of emergency by the stricken vessel. If it was just calling for help from your own navy, then it probably wouldn't, but if it was do or die, I'm sure they'd prefer being taken POVs rather than die (if the other nation is also a member nation; if not, then all bets are off to begin with).
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:34 am

Araraukar wrote:OOC: Because it was submitted without the fixes, it's most likely currently illegal because clause 2 doesn't specify "registered in member nations" and thus tries to legislate on non-member nations' civilian and commercial vessels as well. I'm also quite seriously annoyed of not having had the courtesy to be offered co-authorship for pretty much a complete rewrite of the draft.

The World Assembly,

Committed to the safety of international shipping and fishing operations in international waters,

Understanding the importance of maritime safety to all World Assembly member nations with coastlines,

Recognizing that there are few organizations established to deal with nautical accidents in international waters,

Believing that previously passed legislation does not go far enough in terms of coordinating disaster response in international waters,

Confident that saving lives and reducing financial losses from nautical accidents is possible with increased international cooperation,

Hereby

1. Requires that member states' navies, coast guards and any similar organizations capable of responding to a declared maritime emergency in international waters, do so, provided that

  1. they have vessels appropriate for the conditions at the accident site available,

  2. are able to dispatch their vessels to the accident site in a timely manner, and

  3. can do so without significant risks to their vessels and personnel;

2. Also requires civilian and commercial vessels and aircraft to lend aid if they are capable of doing so without endangering themselves or the official rescue efforts;

3. Requires that when a maritime emergency has been declared within their reach, member nations share all pertinent information available with the responders, including but not limited to

  1. last known location, cargo manifest and passenger list of the vessel or aircraft in distress,

  2. relevant communication frequencies,

  3. the relative positions of responders to each other and the accident site, and

  4. the nearest safe port available;

4. Clarifies that responders are not to be held responsible for any damage done to the vessel or aircraft that has declared emergency, when the damages occur in order to save lives.

OOC: I'm kind of disappointed you didn't receive a co-author listing, as it's pretty apparent you did a lot of work on the proposal. I'll try to talk to the author.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:28 am

Araraukar wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:So if one of your ships is attacked and badly damaged during wartime, and calls for help, you have to disclose this all of this information to any enemy vessels that claim they are trying to save the remaining crew's lives?

OOC: ...would it declare maritime emergency? All the clauses depend on official declaration of emergency by the stricken vessel. If it was just calling for help from your own navy, then it probably wouldn't, but if it was do or die, I'm sure they'd prefer being taken POVs rather than die (if the other nation is also a member nation; if not, then all bets are off to begin with).

OOC: The proposal seems rather vague about what counts as a "declared maritime emergency". Possibly the Compliance Commission might decide that "just calling for help from your own navy" does count...
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Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:56 am

Wayneactia wrote:
New Jorsonn wrote:Category: International Security Strength: Mild

Is this the correct category and strength for this resolution?


How does this force nations to increase military and or police spending?
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Araraukar
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Postby Araraukar » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:37 pm

Bears Armed wrote:OOC: The proposal seems rather vague about what counts as a "declared maritime emergency".

OOC: It's because the proposal draft wasn't anywhere near submissibility. It is vague because it was just a restructuring and rewrittal to be worked more on. Looks like I'm going to have to start including the disclaimers to all drafts I present, again...

Possibly the Compliance Commission might decide that "just calling for help from your own navy" does count...

Maybe. Though given that it's not actually given a role in the proposal, then apparently according to SP's recentmost arguments, it can't make any such calls.
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