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Postby Kenmoria » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:07 am

Kaschovia wrote:"On another note, what do you think about the amendments I have made?"

“I have noticed that ‘public schools’ is never used by itself, so you don’t need to define it. Where you say ‘public and private schools’, you could simply say ‘schools’.”
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Postby Kaschovia » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:11 am

Kenmoria wrote:
Kaschovia wrote:"On another note, what do you think about the amendments I have made?"

“I have noticed that ‘public schools’ is never used by itself, so you don’t need to define it. Where you say ‘public and private schools’, you could simply say ‘schools’.”

"Noted and fixed. Thank you."

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:52 pm

Kaschovia wrote:OOC: So we've both got contrasting examples for RL countries and their academic systems

OOC: They're not contrasting, just different. Peoples and societies are different, in case you didn't know. :P

but the core of the proposal is simply to ensure that students between the stages of preschool and higher education are affected.

But like our two examples (and there are others, even before you go into fictional realities) show, what one counts as "higher education", is different.

I don't want to insult your intelligence because I know you understand these concepts

Then I shall refrain from the usual joke to put here, that involves the very low (from my POV) age that people go to school in the UK... ;)

but for the sake of the proposal, preschool meaning before you begin wider study of English languages, Maths, Science, Humanities, etc... (< 4 7 years of age)

Fixed it for you.

An example of higher education being college, sixth form (UK), or, as you put it, secondary education (Finland).

...secondary education isn't "higher education", the way the words get translated. Korkeakoulutus (literally "higheducation") is what you get from attending a university or polytechnic. But secondary education isn't mandatory either (unless you want a job, more or less), so it's not primary education. It falls between what you'd consider "basic" and "higher", pretty much. Three stage education, instead of two stage. (It gets further muddled if you combine the vocational and academic tracks, as is possible, of the secondary, but not getting into that right now...)

This is why there are only a couple of actually school-related resolutions, because to go beyond basic education means easily getting lost in the maze.
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Postby Kaschovia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Kaschovia wrote:OOC: So we've both got contrasting examples for RL countries and their academic systems

OOC: They're not contrasting, just different. Peoples and societies are different, in case you didn't know. :P

but the core of the proposal is simply to ensure that students between the stages of preschool and higher education are affected.

But like our two examples (and there are others, even before you go into fictional realities) show, what one counts as "higher education", is different.

I don't want to insult your intelligence because I know you understand these concepts

Then I shall refrain from the usual joke to put here, that involves the very low (from my POV) age that people go to school in the UK... ;)

but for the sake of the proposal, preschool meaning before you begin wider study of English languages, Maths, Science, Humanities, etc... (< 4 7 years of age)

Fixed it for you.

An example of higher education being college, sixth form (UK), or, as you put it, secondary education (Finland).

...secondary education isn't "higher education", the way the words get translated. Korkeakoulutus (literally "higheducation") is what you get from attending a university or polytechnic. But secondary education isn't mandatory either (unless you want a job, more or less), so it's not primary education. It falls between what you'd consider "basic" and "higher", pretty much. Three stage education, instead of two stage. (It gets further muddled if you combine the vocational and academic tracks, as is possible, of the secondary, but not getting into that right now...)

This is why there are only a couple of actually school-related resolutions, because to go beyond basic education means easily getting lost in the maze.


[1] Sure.

[2] 'Higher education' is actually defined in GA 159, Promotion of Intl Education, as 'institutes providing post-secondary education that leads to the granting of an academic degree such as, but not limited to, colleges, universities, research institutes, or military academies; OR providing education that leads to the granting of a professional license or rating such as, but not limited to, medical schools or technical-trade schools.'

[3] I'm curious now, as I go to school in the UK :eyebrow:

[4] Thanks, I'll edit that.

[5] Yeah, thanks for clearing that up.

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Postby Kaschovia » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:06 am

"I've amended the resolution so that it clearly defines preschool and affirms the definition for higher education. I've also specified that the courses must be long and comprehensive enough to adequately prepare students for higher education courses."

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Postby Kaschovia » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:12 am

Recent Edits
  • Better defined science in the context of the peer-review process,
  • cleared up the definition of preschool,
  • improved (imo) the final clause in terms of wording,
  • established a funding component, as a safety net for nations who can't fund the mandates of the resolution, in consistency with educational funding in previous legislation (usage of GAO)

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Postby Candensia » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:55 am

Bumping this, due to its relevance with the current GA vote.
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