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Crawford silently slips a draft under the door of a heated debate room in hopes that someone will pick it up and forget that Crawford has no business in this realm whatsoever.

"Greene, fetch me my blanket."

Repeal "The Charter of Civil Rights"
Category: Repeal

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General Assembly Resolution #35 "The Charter of Civil Rights" (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Applauding the World Assembly’s continuous fight to support basic rights for all,

Acknowledging that the Charter on Civil Rights has done more good than harm,

Concerned that the lack of description of “compelling practical purposes” may open the charter up to abuse,

Insisting that while the charter’s scope is large, its broad nature and established laws of the World Assembly heavily impedes any deeper clarification or legislation to be made in either of the articles, including but not limited to a clause discussing movement towards the stopping of various hate crimes,

Understanding that antiquated laws should be replaced with more specialized legislature to ensure the complete protection of civil rights,

Suggesting that individual policy solutions to civil rights issues rather than a single “one-size” resolution,

Hereby repeals The Charter of Civil Rights

“I recommend changing your ‘insisting’ clause, as GA #035 heavily impedes this type of legislation, but there are ways around it being completely stopped.”

Kenmoria wrote:“I recommend changing your ‘insisting’ clause, as GA #035 heavily impedes this type of legislation, but there are ways around it being completely stopped.”

"Fair enough, nothing is ever absolute."

"Yeah, we're not going to be doing this

Wayne"

"What the hell have you been smoking to think that the CoCR causes great harm?!"

OOC: More comments later, right now on smartphone and typing is a pain.

Araraukar wrote:"What the hell have you been smoking to think that the CoCR causes great harm?!"

OOC: More comments later, right now on smartphone and typing is a pain.

"Well, not great harm, but it does serve as a bit of an overbearing but also non-specialized clog in the arteries of proper regulation. If repealed, it opens up a whole torrent of policy ideas, each one being more specialized and specific than the CoCR ever could be. As a marginal benefit, it would welcome quite a few legitimate new authors to the table so they can fill the gap the repeal leaves behind. They wouldn't have to bend over backwards looking for policy ideas, the vacuum would be a decent place to start."

"Mhm. And does the great Sicilian ambassador have any replacement resolution in the making as he repeals this resolution?"

"One cannot define compelling practical purposes further than CoCR, thus I shall be voting against regardless of the replacement."

Marxist Germany wrote:"One cannot define compelling practical purposes further than CoCR, thus I shall be voting against regardless of the replacement."

“I can think of a few ways that would be less open to abuse than the CoCR model.”

"While it may well be true that the Charter can be further protected against abuse through revision, it currently stands as a bulwark against abuses which may inflict irreversible damage with frightening speed. There is no time for drafting a replacement after the repeal has occurred. I urge that a viable alternative be drafted prior to submission of this resolution."

Mand Chais wrote:"While it may well be true that the Charter can be further protected against abuse through revision, it currently stands as a bulwark against abuses which may inflict irreversible damage with frightening speed. There is no time for drafting a replacement after the repeal has occurred. I urge that a viable alternative be drafted prior to submission of this resolution."

"I disagree that one should immediately put forward another behemoth of legislature to fill the gap, I believe that the authors in this assembly should be able to swiftly push through specialized, specific legislation."

Youssath wrote:"Mhm. And does the great Sicilian ambassador have any replacement resolution in the making as he repeals this resolution?"

"I am acquainted with a former ambassador to the WA (OOC: Who quit nationstates over a year ago) who has handed over to me the rights to a piece of replacement legislation he was working on quite a while ago, it needs a little work but I am hesitant to offer up another 'one size fits all' type of resolution. That is part of the problem with the CoCR and offering that to the community would be contradictory to my position on the extant legislation."

When the ideas thread says don't attempt, it's serious. But whatever the matter, what needs thinking here is how to make a better standard than compelling practical purposes. Until you have one, followed by lots of politicking, you will not succeed with this repeal.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:When the ideas thread says don't attempt, it's serious. But whatever the matter, what needs thinking here is how to make a better standard than compelling practical purposes. Until you have one, followed by lots of politicking, you will not succeed with this repeal.

"What do you mean by better standard? Do you mean that the argument has to be stronger, more supported, or do you mean in thoughts of replacements"

The New Sicilian State wrote:

Imperium Anglorum wrote:When the ideas thread says don't attempt, it's serious. But whatever the matter, what needs thinking here is how to make a better standard than compelling practical purposes. Until you have one, followed by lots of politicking, you will not succeed with this repeal.

"What do you mean by better standard? Do you mean that the argument has to be stronger, more supported, or do you mean in thoughts of replacements"

“You simply need to have a far better-worded exception than ‘compelling, practical purposes’, which was the standard used by CoCR. It has to be less open to abuse, less ambiguous, yet still catching all necessary situations.”

Kenmoria wrote:

The New Sicilian State wrote:
"What do you mean by better standard? Do you mean that the argument has to be stronger, more supported, or do you mean in thoughts of replacements"

“You simply need to have a far better-worded exception than ‘compelling, practical purposes’, which was the standard used by CoCR. It has to be less open to abuse, less ambiguous, yet still catching all necessary situations.”

"Oh, of course. Multiple specialized laws would make that much easier, but even another blanket act (if I were to draft it) would contain more specific exceptions."

The New Sicilian State wrote:"Oh, of course. Multiple specialized laws would make that much easier, but even another blanket act (if I were to draft it) would contain more specific exceptions."

"Give us examples then. There's no way you'll be able to repeal the most important anti-discrimination resolution without a solid pre-drafted replacement."

OOC: CoCR isn't a blocker for further human rights and anti-discrimination resolutions - just read through the passed resolutions and you'll see. It has a minor flaw, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a solid piece codifying what many people think of as the "fair game rules" for societies. Even if you got the approval of everyone on this forum, it'd still be unlikely to pass, given that the vast majority of players never set foot on the forums. You would have to have a better and already-written proposal ready to go. If you give that an attempt, remember that you can't copy anything in CoCR without its author's permission.

The New Sicilian State wrote:Suggesting that individual policy solutions to civil rights issues rather than a single “one-size” resolution,

Also, this isn't grammatically right and additionally the word "policy" sounds like referring to the gameside feature; even though I'm fairly sure you didn't mean that, you might want to consider some other word for it.