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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:48 am

Araraukar wrote:OOC: Migraine means not long left of viable screentime, but 1. Do you or have you OOCly actually had periods, as in, do you know what you are talking about? 2. Where the hell do you live where periods aren't taught about in school - not in sex ed but regular human biology class? and 3. All of the proposal needs some "unless already in use/done" modifier for progressive nations so that they don't need to do things twice just because the WA said so.

Also, what about pain medication especially suited for menstruation (word you should use in law text, btw) cramp pain alleviation?

Yours truly, debilitating cramp pains and massively flooding flows for 15 years before I got an IUD.

OOC: We didn't talk about menstruation in my biology class, but then again I grew up in a rural conservative Texas town so it's not really that surprising or representative of the rest of the world.
By the way, not the OP, I just thought it was worth noting that not everyone learns about periods in school, so it makes sense to make teaching about them mandatory.
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:16 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I just thought it was worth noting that not everyone learns about periods in school, so it makes sense to make teaching about them mandatory.

OOC: And if it already is? Does it have to be taught twice? Once in biology class and once in a WA-mandated periods class?
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:29 am

Araraukar wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I just thought it was worth noting that not everyone learns about periods in school, so it makes sense to make teaching about them mandatory.

OOC: And if it already is? Does it have to be taught twice? Once in biology class and once in a WA-mandated periods class?

OOC: Why is it impossible to mandate that menstruation should be taught in biology class? Because that'd be my solution, not ditching the mandatory education in the first place.

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Postby Araraukar » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:43 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:OOC: Why is it impossible to mandate that menstruation should be taught in biology class? Because that'd be my solution, not ditching the mandatory education in the first place.

OOC: Ask the author. Also I'm not saying to ditch the mandatory education, I'm saying to put in something like "unless it is already done as part of the basic curriculum". That way nations that already teach about periods as is, can continue doing so, without needing to add a separate specific class about periods.

For that matter, why only periods? Why not all puberty-related issues? We literally had a class on that separately, before the usual onset of puberty age. We had the periods come up in human reproduction biology class later that (or the next, I can't quite remember) year, and then they were further discussed in sex ed a year or two later. And yes, even boys had to learn about periods in sex ed. Girls were also given free samples of menstruation pads and tampons as part of the sex ed.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:29 pm

1. Why is this an international issue?
2. Why should businesses, some of which may be struggling, have to provide free tampons to any customer? Should a pub have to provide free tampons to somebody who goes in to buy, say, a glass of orange juice?
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Postby Linux and the X » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:45 pm

Araraukar wrote:Also I'm not saying to ditch the mandatory education, I'm saying to put in something like "unless it is already done as part of the basic curriculum".

Isn't that implicit? I don't think it's normal for resolutions to have "unless you're already doing it" exceptions; you're just already in compliance.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Why should businesses, some of which may be struggling, have to provide free tampons to any customer? Should a pub have to provide free tampons to somebody who goes in to buy, say, a glass of orange juice?

I dunno, why should they have to provide bog roll? Bring your own, you freeloader!
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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:32 am

Tinhampton wrote:Two-and-a-half-year bump. Consider Periods: TikTok gives better education than schools, says teens.

And in two and a half years, very little has changed.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri May 13, 2022 10:03 am

Bump - new-ish draft up. A bit shorter but also a bit longer.
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Postby Fachumonn » Fri May 13, 2022 2:15 pm

Tinhampton wrote: A bit shorter but also a bit longer.

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Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Sat May 14, 2022 6:22 pm

Fachumonn wrote:
Tinhampton wrote: A bit shorter but also a bit longer.

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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:01 pm

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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:14 pm

Anderson: Who's the lead on this one, again? Oh, yes - as I said, students without adequate access to menstrual products will miss out on education due to periods. The same goes for women in work, especially in manual labour, which will reduce productivity, harm GDP and hobble international trade. We have no intention on giving up on this.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:17 pm

Tinhampton wrote:I haven't abandoned this!

I don't believe in miracles anyway....
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Postby The Orwell Society » Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:40 pm

So schools and businesses would have to pay and provide these menstrual products to all who need them? Why should a school or business have to pay money for someone's personal products? This would better be achieved by the govenment providing stimulus checks for people in need of said products but cannot pay for them.

This isn't neccessarily a national issue, and if it is, the solution you give makes it even less so. It should be up to the woman in question to bring the menstrual products whereever she may need them. Opposed.

OOC: I know next to nothing about periods, so I can't really address the problem in itself well enough to provide any more feedback.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:41 pm

Anderson: The World Assembly just... giving money to people to spend on things would be a much less efficient way of guaranteeing access to those things then actually letting people use them.
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Postby The Orwell Society » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:49 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Anderson: The World Assembly just... giving money to people to spend on things would be a much less efficient way of guaranteeing access to those things then actually letting people use them.

Not if governments regulate what you can and can't the checks on.

The problem is that small businesses and schools should not have to pay for their students/employee's personal products. They just shouldn't. That should be up to the government if a person is unable afford the products. That's what the government is for. To serve the needs of the people.
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:03 am

Menstruation products are needs of the people, right? :P

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Postby Simone Republic » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:46 am

Tinhampton wrote:Menstruation products are needs of the people, right? :P

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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:39 am

Anderson: The bins are there for a reason: we cannot and should not have people flushing sanitary pads down the toilet, where they not only do not belong but might cause drain blockages or worse. Otherwise, thanks to both of you. This is not one of our urgent priorities, but I should move ahead with this in the coming month or two.
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Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:26 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Anderson: The bins are there for a reason:


"How nice of you to remind us, Ms. Anderson. It would be refreshing if your delegation would use them for refuse such as this before it made it to the debate chamber. Though I suppose by now I, as an ambassador to this assembly, and We as the Roman Republic should know that your delegation would not be able to pick out refuse from reputably if the refuse were a Vestal Virgin dancing nude with it painted across her chest."
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