OOC:That's fine, opposition was expected, and I won't be a dick and draft a replace then not submit it because that'll quickly make me very hated.
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by Marxist Germany » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:45 am
by Araraukar » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:50 am
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:That's fine, opposition was expected, and I won't be a dick and draft a replace then not submit it because that'll quickly make me very hated.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by The New California Republic » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:52 am
by Marxist Germany » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:55 am
Araraukar wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:That's fine, opposition was expected, and I won't be a dick and draft a replace then not submit it because that'll quickly make me very hated.
OOC: Attempting this repeal will quickly make you very hated all too easily. Why do you hate women's rights to decide what happens to their bodies?
by The New California Republic » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:56 am
by Araraukar » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:59 am
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:Because sometimes we have to draw a line between personal rights and rights of others.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Marxist Germany » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:01 am
by Morover » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:09 am
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC: (TNCR) The line drawn in 128 is reasonable enough for me with the exception of rape or incest, but compromise is necessary sometimes.
by Marxist Germany » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:12 am
Morover wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:OOC: (TNCR) The line drawn in 128 is reasonable enough for me with the exception of rape or incest, but compromise is necessary sometimes.
Wait, so you think that abortion should be outlawed even in cases of rape? That doesn't necessarily add up to me. I simply don't see how this is a 'compromise' by any means.
by Morover » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:14 am
Marxist Germany wrote:Morover wrote:
Wait, so you think that abortion should be outlawed even in cases of rape? That doesn't necessarily add up to me. I simply don't see how this is a 'compromise' by any means.
OOC:It's a compromise because we still have to live with legal abortion for cases of rape, or incest.
by Marxist Germany » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:20 am
by Separatist Peoples » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:22 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:24 am
by Marxist Germany » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:25 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:"We have no need to compromise. Compromise is only necessary where two sides cannot win outright. That is not so here. This repeal effort will fail. The arguments contained herein have failed before. Opposed."
Imperium Anglorum wrote:You repeal, we pass abortionplexes for all. Is that what you want?
by Separatist Peoples » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:26 am
by Marxist Germany » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:28 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:
"These arguments have failed on their own, but collectively, and with the right timing and campaigning, I believe I can get this to pass."
"The arguments in this configuration have all been used together before. There is already concerted effort to sink this. You will not pass this, ambassador. Better authors have tried and failed."
by Imperium Anglorum » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:34 am
by Guy » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:39 am
Noting that this resolution allows abortion on demand, disregarding the potential for sex-selective abortion, a practice that harms the gender balance and creates societal problems, and other discriminatory reasons for abortion such as disability and skin colour, reasons that this assembly is attempting to eradicate;
Frustrated that the term forces member nations to legalize Dilation and Extraction procedures, for example, commonly known as partial-birth abortions, which some of the most gruesome, bloody, and medically unneeded abortion procedures, in which a living and viable fetus is destroyed;
Further Noting that the resolution does not make exceptions for minors who are still under their parents' or guardians' custody, whom might not understand the consequences behind the termination of their pregnancy;
Believing that the issue ought to be handled in a manner than guarantees the right to abortion whilst placing reasonable restrictions that prevent abuses such as those mentioned above;
Concerned with the many flaws present in the resolution, that ought to be replaced by a better replacement that addresses the issue properly;
[violet] wrote:Never underestimate the ability of admin to do nothing.
by Separatist Peoples » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:40 am
Marxist Germany wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"These arguments have failed on their own, but collectively, and with the right timing and campaigning, I believe I can get this to pass."
"The arguments in this configuration have all been used together before. There is already concerted effort to sink this. You will not pass this, ambassador. Better authors have tried and failed."
"The final and most recent repeal attempt was voted on 2 years ago, demographics might have changed since that time."
by Kenmoria » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:49 am
by United States of Americanas » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:58 am
by The New California Republic » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:27 am
Marxist Germany wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"These arguments have failed on their own, but collectively, and with the right timing and campaigning, I believe I can get this to pass."
"The arguments in this configuration have all been used together before. There is already concerted effort to sink this. You will not pass this, ambassador. Better authors have tried and failed."
"The final and most recent repeal attempt was voted on 2 years ago, demographics might have changed since that time."
by United Massachusetts » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:31 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:You repeal, we pass abortionplexes for all. Is that what you want?
by Attempted Socialism » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:44 am
Marxist Germany wrote:Morover wrote:
Wait, so you think that abortion should be outlawed even in cases of rape? That doesn't necessarily add up to me. I simply don't see how this is a 'compromise' by any means.
OOC:It's a compromise because we still have to live with legal abortion for cases of rape, or incest.
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by United Massachusetts » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:49 am
Attempted Socialism wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:It's a compromise because we still have to live with legal abortion for cases of rape, or incest.
OOC: RF+OA is the compromise. It's the compromise between those who reasonably want women to have rights, and those who want the anti-choice advocates to be forced to pay for all abortions. Further, compromise is what is negotiated between two sides who cannot, or will not, dictate their will upon the other side. In this case, the anti-choice 'other side' is a handful of people and their futile attempt to turn back history. It will not happen, and any replacement of RF or OA will be even more pro-choice.
Attempted Socialism wrote:Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:It's a compromise because we still have to live with legal abortion for cases of rape, or incest.
OOC: RF+OA is the compromise. It's the compromise between those who reasonably want women to have rights, and those who want the anti-choice advocates to be forced to pay for all abortions. Further, compromise is what is negotiated between two sides who cannot, or will not, dictate their will upon the other side. In this case, the anti-choice 'other side' is a handful of people and their futile attempt to turn back history. It will not happen, and any replacement of RF or OA will be even more pro-choice.
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