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“The ‘recognising’ clause has ‘avoiding the ban’ right before the ‘avoid the ban’ in the next sentence. To avoid repetition, I recommend changing the wording on one of these.”

Imperium Anglorum wrote:

United Massachusetts wrote:"Ambassador, we do not believe it wise to risk a replacement. Further, it remains our opinion that if the government is the main owner of a prison, the perverse incentives of a free market are kept in check."

So the government couldn't possibly make themselves an profit maximising state-owned enterprise? An interesting assessment.

Would that not define a Crown Corporation? Most Crown Corporations are setup in a way as to be non-profit.

Kenmoria wrote:“The ‘recognising’ clause has ‘avoiding the ban’ right before the ‘avoid the ban’ in the next sentence. To avoid repetition, I recommend changing the wording on one of these.”

"This has been fixed, if no concerns remain, we shall be submitting this."

Wallenburg wrote:No thanks.

OOC:The resolution is basically just a nuisance and barely achieves its ban, would you not want a better replacement? Though you shouldn't expect me to write it up.

Wayneactia wrote:Would that not define a Crown Corporation? Most Crown Corporations are setup in a way as to be non-profit.

I'm thinking something like Amtrak more than Royal Mail.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:

United Massachusetts wrote:"Ambassador, we do not believe it wise to risk a replacement. Further, it remains our opinion that if the government is the main owner of a prison, the perverse incentives of a free market are kept in check."

So the government couldn't possibly make themselves an profit maximising state-owned enterprise? An interesting assessment.

OOC
Indeed, simply using prisoners for forced labour -- for example in extracting resources from desolate wildernesses such as Siberia, or constructing canals linking the Baltic & White Seas -- might be enough to motivate its penal system to keep the number of inmates high...

Building yourselves some big walls...

I give this my full approval as this Resolution to be admitted as one itself. I support this future repeal.

"Submitted."

The quote of clause 3 does not specify as to which nations judicial system made the conviction only that they cannot hold a criminal remanded to their prison system. It does have other problems, but the specific quote says nothing to imply that two nations in such an arrangement have a loophole that you outlined.

Marxist Germany wrote:"Submitted."

“Good luck. Hopefully, a repeal and replacement will give WA member nations the opportunity to consider how much they wish to restrict free enterprise. I hope that a replacement will seek more of a compromise, supportive of the free market, than the one-sided legislation currently on the books.”

Kenmoria wrote:

Marxist Germany wrote:"Submitted."

“Good luck. Hopefully, a repeal and replacement will give WA member nations the opportunity to consider how much they wish to restrict free enterprise. I hope that a replacement will seek more of a compromise, supportive of the free market, than the one-sided legislation currently on the books.”

"Indeed ambassador, I hope the replacement will restrict private prisons but not completely or partially ban them, regulating businesses conservatively is what we believe is the right solution."

You have my supporting vote under the condition that it is immediately replaced with an infallible ban on private prisons.

United States of Americanas wrote:You have my supporting vote under the condition that it is immediately replaced with an infallible ban on private prisons.

OOC: Feel free to write one up, if you can.

OOC:Quorum missed by 4 approvals, for the third time.

Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:Quorum missed by 4 approvals, for the third time.

OOC: How do you campaign for it?

“Is there a reason to bold your opening verbs?”

ETA: Thanks Ara

Kenmoria wrote:“Is there a reason to hold bold your opening verbs?”

OOC: Fixed.

Araraukar wrote:

Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:Quorum missed by 4 approvals, for the third time.

OOC: How do you campaign for it?

OOC:API, sent a TG to every delegate, however, didn't get most of them done until the second day, that could've affected the vote.

Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:API, sent a TG to every delegate, however, didn't get most of them done until the second day, that could've affected the vote.

OOC: Also *points to a calendar* summer.

Araraukar wrote:

Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:API, sent a TG to every delegate, however, didn't get most of them done until the second day, that could've affected the vote.

OOC: Also *points to a calendar* summer.

(OOC: What’s significant about summer? I thought summer was a General forum thing.)

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: What’s significant about summer? I thought summer was a General forum thing.)

OOC: I don't mean NS Summer, I mean actual summer. People having other things to do than spend time in NS or check in daily. So given there's under 4 days to get the approvals, delegates might not just log in often enough or for long enough.

OOC:Submitting this today at the minor update 5pm UTC+1.

Edit: Due to some irl stuff submission has been delayed until the tomorrow, sorry.

We've already legalized private prisons against the World Assembly's wishes

Mockia wrote:We've already legalized private prisons against the World Assembly's wishes

(OOC: Therefore, according to the Administrative Compliance Act, your nation will be receiving increasingly heavy fines. Also, your contributions will be ignored by almost everyone here, since noncompliance often comes with godmodding.)

Kenmoria wrote:

Mockia wrote:We've already legalized private prisons against the World Assembly's wishes

(OOC: Therefore, according to the Administrative Compliance Act, your nation will be receiving increasingly heavy fines. Also, your contributions will be ignored by almost everyone here, since noncompliance often comes with godmodding.)

OOC: Technically, the resolution gives two years to comply from passage so he is within compliance at time of writing.