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Postby West Phoenicia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:32 pm

We would support a repeal. For the simple reason this is a choice one makes, if they want the hormone therapy is it their choice, but should purely be from their own pockets And they should incur out of pocket expenses if that is the road they are wanting to take.

We much rather ensure cheaper medication and therapies for diseases that one does not choose like cancer treatments which can be quite costly. We need to ensure they are more affordable, ratherthan reducing the cost of having someone who thinks they really are man, woman or panda bear when that is not the case.

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:38 pm

West Phoenicia wrote:ratherthan reducing the cost of having someone who thinks they really are man, woman or panda bear when that is not the case.

OOC: This is really not helping your case, you know. It just makes you appear bigoted and ignorant.
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Postby West Phoenicia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:51 pm

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West Phoenicia wrote:ratherthan reducing the cost of having someone who thinks they really are man, woman or panda bear when that is not the case.

OOC: This is really not helping your case, you know. It just makes you appear bigoted and ignorant.



Actually the original bill that passsd included non-binary. There are those progressive non-binary folk who extend themselves beyond identifying as a human male or female and into the spectrum of flora and fauna.

So can you please refrain from name calling
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:11 pm

West Phoenicia wrote:Actually the original bill that passsd included non-binary.

OOC: There are now two resolutions that do that. Which do you mean?

There are those progressive non-binary folk who extend themselves beyond identifying as a human male or female and into the spectrum of flora and fauna.

...which has nothing to do with being transgender. Again, that's like using the existence of chickens to argue that apples shouldn't exist.

So can you please refrain from name calling

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Postby West Phoenicia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:33 pm

The resolution that just passed Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy included not only transgender but non binary folk too.

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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:47 pm

West Phoenicia wrote:The resolution that just passed Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy included not only transgender but non binary folk too.

OOC: "Transgender" is an umbrella term that includes non-binary.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:35 am

West Phoenicia wrote:
Araraukar wrote:OOC: This is really not helping your case, you know. It just makes you appear bigoted and ignorant.



Actually the original bill that passsd included non-binary. There are those progressive non-binary folk who extend themselves beyond identifying as a human male or female and into the spectrum of flora and fauna.

So can you please refrain from name calling


OOC: Yeah, it's somehow not name-calling when you use what amounts to "attack helicopter" rhetoric, but god fucking forbid someone points out that's a bigoted statement. The horror! How dare these people I'm looking down on say out loud that I'm looking down on them!

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:32 am

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Look whether LGBT people are confused or not doesn't matter let them do what they want if it's wrong God will punish them it causes nobody harm letting them pretend to be that way even if it is wrong which I'm not saying it is, if it's a sin then fine let god punish them I'll just stay out of it personally.


Isn't God about love and forgiveness? I mean, I am Christian, I do disagree with LGBT people, but I love them, because in my eyes they are the children of God, like everyone

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Postby Te Netherlands » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:35 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Te Netherlands wrote:
Isn't God about love and forgiveness? I mean, I am Christian, I do disagree with LGBT people, but I love them, because in my eyes they are the children of God, like everyone

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OOC (I am sorry, I thought it was in the General subforum :blush: )
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After some disputes within the PVV and the CDP about the new political party (National Party of the Netherlands) PM Legtenberg announced that the name will be the Conservative Party. Because the initial NPN became associated with far-right parties NSB and NSDAP in the '30s and '40s. PM Legtenberg further announced that the Netherlands wil also be a Federal Republic from 1 January 2024. And that he will become the first President of the Netherlands. How this will affect the elections will be decided by him and the House

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Postby Araraukar » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:11 am

Te Netherlands wrote:OOC (I am sorry, I thought it was in the General subforum :blush: )

OOC: The "repeal" in the thread title is a solid hint. :P
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Postby Mahrenbach » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:13 am

Given its previously announced position, the Federation, unsurpringsly, opposes the motion to repeal the resolution.
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Postby Illyrda » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:19 am

The Ratora Lotow wrote:General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

"Transgender" is not a real thing that can occur. One cannot choose or change their sexual identity. You are either born with XY chromosomes (male) or XX chromosomes (female). It is that simple and there is no middle ground. A person that claims to be "transgender" or "nonbinary" is simply confused. :)

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https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=united_civil_republic_1563315922


Go look at the policies of this nation, you'll find that one policy is "heterosexual relationships are banned"
Not commenting on what has actually been said, i just find it very ironic
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