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Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:58 amby Blueflarst
Possible new addons
Noting this resolution and similar others have lowered the World Assembly nations from 24k to 20456
Expecting to lower the global tension towards this repeal.
Affirming the General Assembly is going out of the main objetive with this type of aproach
Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:07 amby East Meranopirus
You've already made a badly-written and illegal (in multiple ways) proposal, how is this any better? At any rate, this should be posted in the thread you already have.
Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:09 amby Kenmoria
(OOC: As Meranopirus said, this should go into the other thread. Also, this is still a weak proposal, as it doesn’t address the target resolution very well. So far, you have mostly cookie-cutter clauses about discontent, and the only clause to do with the resolution mentions a vague and nonexistent gender ideology. It is legal, but the quality is not at all good. You need to find actual flaws in the target resolution.)
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:41 amby Frisbeeteria
East Meranopirus wrote:At any rate, this should be posted in the thread you already have.
Merged.
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:29 amby Cekoviu
Blueflarst wrote:The World Assembly recants about the submitted facts in the World Assembly resolution 467.
Calling this facts false and biased.
Acknowledging the World Assembly is not a place for political fights but an organization to promote international peace.
Acknowledging the General Assembly is not an international parliament but a global council to promote freedom and international stability.
Expressing anger towards the gender ideology campaigners imposing their agenda to the World and using this resolution to force their political views to all.
Acknowledging the World Assembly is not a stabbing TV show but a place for resolutions to improve the World without raising tension and political conflicts.
Acknowledging this resolutions has already raised political conflicts among the World Assembly with several nations protesting while others try to evade the international law.
Affirming the World Assembly protecting motive of existence towards ALL the nations inside it.
Noting this resolution goes againist the World Assembly objetives as it raises political conflicts and international conflicts.
Noting this resolution raises global tension.
Repeals the 467 General Assembly resolution and all the laws made of it as it goes againist the spirit of the resolutions.
This is at least legal, so we unfortunately must applaud Bluefarst for attaining the bare minimum level of quality.
However, we find your premises to be extremely shaky. For one, the draft implies that "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy" hurts freedom. While it does decrease nation's ability to discriminate, it also gives transgender people a greater freedom to alter their physical appearance in accordance with their gender, and we view that as vastly more important. It's similar to how "Convention Against Genocide" takes away nations' freedom to commit genocide in exchange for greater freedom for the people of those nations, just on a much smaller scale. One must weigh the importance of different types of freedom.
Secondly, the draft says the resolution is "gender ideology campaigners imposing their agenda to [sic] the World". Even if this were true, which is not necessarily the case, how would the repeal be any different, particularly when Blueflarst (a notorious "gender ideology campaigner") is the author?
Thirdly, the Assembly has controversies and attempts to defy international law with almost every GA legislation that's as important as this. A large amount of other legislation could be repealed with that as a basis.
Finally, there are still spelling and grammatical errors in this - "this facts," "againist," "objetives."
Against.
Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:05 pmby Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories
As previously noted, this repeal attempt has not demonstrated to the satisfaction of the Office of Foreign Affairs that it is anything more than pure reaction. There is nothing like a solid case built in this proposal, and only the barest attempt made at cloaking the foundation stone of its argument; that trans identity is not valid.
We oppose this notion utterly, and subsequently this proposal.
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:22 pmby The New California Republic
Blueflarst wrote:The World Assembly recants about the submitted facts in the World Assembly resolution 467.
Calling this facts false and biased.
Acknowledging the World Assembly is not a place for political fights but an organization to promote international peace.
Acknowledging the General Assembly is not an international parliament but a global council to promote freedom and international stability.
Expressing anger towards the gender ideology campaigners imposing their agenda to the World and using this resolution to force their political views to all.
Acknowledging the World Assembly is not a stabbing TV show but a place for resolutions to improve the World without raising tension and political conflicts.
Acknowledging this resolutions has already raised political conflicts among the World Assembly with several nations protesting while others try to evade the international law.
Affirming the World Assembly protecting motive of existence towards ALL the nations inside it.
Noting this resolution goes againist the World Assembly objetives as it raises political conflicts and international conflicts.
Noting this resolution raises global tension.
Repeals the 467 General Assembly resolution and all the laws made of it as it goes againist the spirit of the resolutions.
OOC: None of this actually addresses the text in the Resolution. It's just filler and fluff...
Posted:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:55 pmby Araraukar
The New California Republic wrote:OOC: None of this actually addresses the text in the Resolution. It's just filler and fluff...
OOC: Yeah, illegal for Honest Mistake, but only because Bloody Stupid is no longer a proper illegality.
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:17 pmby The New California Republic
Araraukar wrote:The New California Republic wrote:OOC: None of this actually addresses the text in the Resolution. It's just filler and fluff...
OOC: Yeah, illegal for Honest Mistake, but only because Bloody Stupid is no longer a proper illegality.
OOC: It is more than a little annoying when a repeal goes on a rant instead of actually addressing the Resolution on its own terms...
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:25 amby Galway-Dublin
Emerson dumps the last of his Nyquil in his coffee "Consul, I'm sure there's better an argument to make than decreased participation in the WA a knife held at the throat of the floor to get your way." Fittingly he stirs in a few shots of absinthe for good measure. "You ought to read up on the precedent in these halls, govnah, such as WA Resolution #91, a convention on gender, which lays the groundwork for such grand resolutions as the one you right now claw at; not to mention that it establishes the legal term transgender in these halls for purposes of resolutions, you can't undo that meaning here without repealing that resolution too. In the meantime, though, if you're going to try to repeal this again via a total rewrite, you might want to consult similar precedents to try to organize a thesis better than the grandstanding one you have here. Emerson downs the entire coffee cup before going back to the provided binder. "Oh, and also it's spelled grossly."
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:02 amby Blueflarst
Cekoviu wrote:Blueflarst wrote:The World Assembly recants about the submitted facts in the World Assembly resolution 467.
Calling this facts false and biased.
Acknowledging the World Assembly is not a place for political fights but an organization to promote international peace.
Acknowledging the General Assembly is not an international parliament but a global council to promote freedom and international stability.
Expressing anger towards the gender ideology campaigners imposing their agenda to the World and using this resolution to force their political views to all.
Acknowledging the World Assembly is not a stabbing TV show but a place for resolutions to improve the World without raising tension and political conflicts.
Acknowledging this resolutions has already raised political conflicts among the World Assembly with several nations protesting while others try to evade the international law.
Affirming the World Assembly protecting motive of existence towards ALL the nations inside it.
Noting this resolution goes againist the World Assembly objetives as it raises political conflicts and international conflicts.
Noting this resolution raises global tension.
Repeals the 467 General Assembly resolution and all the laws made of it as it goes againist the spirit of the resolutions.
This is at least legal, so we unfortunately must applaud Bluefarst for attaining the bare minimum level of quality.
However, we find your premises to be extremely shaky. For one, the draft implies that "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy" hurts freedom. While it does decrease nation's ability to discriminate, it also gives transgender people a greater freedom to alter their physical appearance in accordance with their gender, and we view that as vastly more important. It's similar to how "Convention Against Genocide" takes away nations' freedom to commit genocide in exchange for greater freedom for the people of those nations, just on a much smaller scale. One must weigh the importance of different types of freedom.
Secondly, the draft says the resolution is "gender ideology campaigners imposing their agenda to [sic] the World". Even if this were true, which is not necessarily the case, how would the repeal be any different, particularly when Blueflarst (a notorious "gender ideology campaigner") is the author?
Thirdly, the Assembly has controversies and attempts to defy international law with almost every GA legislation that's as important as this. A large amount of other legislation could be repealed with that as a basis.
Finally, there are still spelling and grammatical errors in this - "this facts," "againist," "objetives."
Against.
Your biased information is offensive.
I am not a gender ideology campaigner but totally againist it
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:07 amby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Blueflarst wrote:Your biased information is offensive.
I am not a gender ideology campaigner but totally againist it
Have you considered that you are in fact campaigning for your own version of a gender ideology?
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:09 amby Blueflarst
I have little patience for nations whom forge the information. This repeal adresses the resolution calls biased the supposed facts and says the reasons for the repeal including global tension and opressing of cultures with a cosmopolitan hammer
This resolution is culturaly insensitive and promotes oppression
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:12 amby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Blueflarst wrote:I have little patience for nations whom forge the information. This repeal adresses the resolution calls biased the supposed facts and says the reasons for the repeal including global tension and opressing of cultures with a cosmopolitan hammer
This resolution is culturaly insensitive and promotes oppression
By this logic, is the outlawing of slavery by the WA, and the merciless destruction of slaver states by geopolitical powers oppression and cultural insensitivity then?
Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:13 amby Marxist Germany
Blueflarst wrote:I have little patience for nations whom forge the information. This repeal adresses the resolution calls biased the supposed facts and says the reasons for the repeal including global tension and opressing of cultures with a cosmopolitan hammer
This resolution is culturaly insensitive and promotes oppression
"Ambassador, your speech is incoherent, I suggest a good night's sleep."
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:33 amby The New California Republic
Blueflarst wrote:I have little patience for nations whom forge the information. This repeal adresses the resolution calls biased the supposed facts and says the reasons for the repeal including global tension and opressing of cultures with a cosmopolitan hammer
This resolution is culturaly insensitive and promotes oppression
OOC: You have yet to address what information in the Resolution is wrong, despite being repeatedly pressed to do so. I can only conclude that you can't show how it is wrong, hence why you have resorted to appealing to vague things like "global tension" and "oppressing of cultures", the latter sounds suspiciously like NatSov...
Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:22 amby Araraukar
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
OOC: Just preserving this as a quote, because I seriously laughed myself to tears.
Someone needs to make a "cards against humanity" card for a cosmopolitan hammer. XD
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:24 amby United Massachusetts
Araraukar wrote:Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
OOC: Just preserving this as a quote, because I seriously laughed myself to tears.
Someone needs to make a "cards against humanity" card for a cosmopolitan hammer. XD
Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:26 amby United States of Americanas
Mark my words. This will NEVER reach quorum to go to the WA floor for a vote and if it does expect to get obliterated at the ballot box.
It’s about damn time we began recognizing and supporting the LGBTQIA community.
That said if somehow this does manage to pass I’ll legislate my own transgender protections in my nation.
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:28 amby Kenmoria
Blueflarst wrote:I have little patience for nations whom forge the information. This repeal adresses the resolution calls biased the supposed facts and says the reasons for the repeal including global tension and opressing of cultures with a cosmopolitan hammer
This resolution is culturaly insensitive and promotes oppression
(OOC: Target the actual clauses, please. What you have now is only a few steps away from national sovereignty, and doesn’t address the actual resolution text. Deal with the problems, if any, of the clauses and their execution, rather than vague statements of ideology.)
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:31 amby The New California Republic
Araraukar wrote:Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
OOC: Just preserving this as a quote, because I seriously laughed myself to tears.
Someone needs to make a "cards against humanity" card for a cosmopolitan hammer. XD
Yeah my eyebrow almost raised clean off my face when I read that phrase...
Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:33 amby Araraukar
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:31 amby Galway-Dublin
Blueflarst wrote:I have little patience for nations whom forge the information. This repeal adresses the resolution calls biased the supposed facts and says the reasons for the repeal including global tension and opressing of cultures with a cosmopolitan hammer
"So the solution is to apply your own positions?"
Emerson takes another shot of absinthe "Cause all it seems is that you're playing oppression Olympics but with Jesus. Not to mention that this 'forged information' is a resolution passed by the floor. If all you have is 'these are wrong facts to me' well then you're going to have a hard time overriding this piece of legislation considering it was Resolution #91 that set firm these terminogies in place."
Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:42 amby A Great and Free Spain
The Empire of a Great and Free Spain supports the repeal of this legislation.
We believe is idiotic. Gender comes from genitals. No identities or gender fluidity
Posted:
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:00 amby Kenmoria
A Great and Free Spain wrote:The Empire of a Great and Free Spain supports the repeal of this legislation.
We believe is idiotic. Gender comes from genitals. No identities or gender fluidity
(OOC: GA #091, A Convention on Gender, already confirmed that gender and sex are different things according to General Assembly law.)