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Araraukar
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:49 am

The Christian God wrote:Besides, I won't kill you, I shall Judge you.

Good luck with that, my soul ain't bound to you.

OOC EDIT: And can we now stop the threadjack or whatever?
Last edited by Araraukar on Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:26 am

Araraukar wrote:
The Christian God wrote:OoC: My main account never posted in this thread.

OOC: My apologies, it's usually Wallenburg who makes those kinds of accounts.

Hey I'm not the only ass on this forum! :p
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:12 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Araraukar wrote:OOC: My apologies, it's usually Wallenburg who makes those kinds of accounts.

Hey I'm not the only ass on this forum! :p

OOC: Are you the new hammer one? I think you were one of the previous two. And a landmine. And I forget what all else. :P
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Postby Kyoki Chudoku » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:35 pm

“No matter what supposed deities might say,” said Tokiko, glaring contemptuously at the so-called god, “I still believe that a total ban on execution is an idiotic decision, and furthermore, the fact that we have to contend with this being illegal due to duplication is an embarrassment to the World Assembly, as it implies that the previous resolution totally bans execution- I can assure you now that the Supreme Ultimate Country values its ability to permanently eliminate guilty traitors more than it values the absence of sanctions. Resolutions such as these greatly impede the ability to overcome chaos, and mitigate any efforts to combat crime by enforcing expensive, temporary solutions over practical and permanent ones.”
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Postby Sapient Hammers United » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:57 pm

Araraukar wrote:OOC: Are you the new hammer one? I think you were one of the previous two. And a landmine. And I forget what all else. :P


Hey now, we're a free-actor, independent-like, you see?
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:43 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Hey I'm not the only ass on this forum! :p

OOC: Are you the new hammer one? I think you were one of the previous two. And a landmine. And I forget what all else. :P

I can't claim Sapient Hammers, but I do own one of the 2 or 3 landmine puppets.
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Postby The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:45 pm

This entire proposal is a smear on a practice that can be legitimate.
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:29 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Araraukar wrote:OOC: Are you the new hammer one? I think you were one of the previous two. And a landmine. And I forget what all else. :P

I can't claim Sapient Hammers, but I do own one of the 2 or 3 landmine puppets.

OOC: I meant Cosmopolitan Hammers (spoiler in my siggy has quotes from that thread).
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:30 pm

Araraukar wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:OOC: I love how when I propose a wildly controversial resolution, y'all find this to be the most interesting aspect of it.

OOC: It's a fight over your current proposal's legality. If I'm right, your proposal's basic idea is legal - still a bad idea, IMO, but legal - and if they're right, it's illegal for duplication. If the rest of GenSec agrees with Wally and BA, then this is illegal, but the legality decision won't affect my RP anyway for the reasons I already explained. So... this will likely get ruled illegal, and whether you want to fight the decision, is up to you.

Edit because I can't type. Need to go eat something...

(OOC: I think it could be legal either way, independent of the months vs years debate. For the record, I agree with Wallenburg here, not that I think it matters. If you are right, and six months can be less than half a year, then executions may take place between the passage of twelve months and that of a year.

If Wally and BA are correct, then executions must be done on the exact day twelve months after sentencing, so that more than a year is not elapsed, but the serial six-month periods for evidence re-examination are correct. Either way, UM is still banning only a fraction of possible cases, so it could be that this is enough for Gensec to mark it illegal anyway.)
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:36 am

Araraukar wrote:
Attempted Socialism wrote:OOC: I admit I haven't been following that closely, but I haven't seen that claim, no.

OOC: See posts by Wallenburg on this thread. Pages 1 and 2.

The effect is the same de facto, but not de jure.

And yet Wallenburg (and possibly BA) argue that this proposal is illegal for duplication.

With my rephrasing of your point in the other thread and now, I think I should get my eyesight checked. Or my memory.


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