WEPA wrote:Why are we trying to normalize this mental disorder instead of trying help those with it?
'If you read the proposed resolution, you can clearly see that its aim is to help transgender people, even though it is not a mental disorder.'
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by The New Nordic Union » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:11 am
WEPA wrote:Why are we trying to normalize this mental disorder instead of trying help those with it?
by Wallenburg » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:12 am
WEPA wrote:Why are we trying to normalize this mental disorder instead of trying help those with it?
by Dr Neela Rasgotra » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:13 am
WEPA wrote:Why are we trying to normalize this mental disorder instead of trying help those with it?
by Bears Armed » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:15 am
OOCWallenburg wrote:OOC: That gender and sex are fundamentally different things is well established academic consensus. To claim otherwise is to argue against the body of experts that study these things for a living.
by Vlender Tusdeta » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:33 am
Bears Armed wrote:OOCWallenburg wrote:OOC: That gender and sex are fundamentally different things is well established academic consensus. To claim otherwise is to argue against the body of experts that study these things for a living.
Consensuses change. Phlogiston, Luminiferous Ether, and 'Young Earth' Creationism, to name but three examples, were all held to be true by "well established academic consensus"... until they weren't.
by Paleoconservative Citizens » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:40 am
by South World » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:42 am
by Paleoconservative Citizens » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:44 am
South World wrote:2. Their experiences are not the product of "mental illness," "confusion," "disease," or anything of the sort -- rather, their understanding of their relationship to the world in the lens of gender does not correspond with their biological sex.
4. Any distress arising from this real disconnect between sex and gender is referred to as gender dysphoria -- like any mental condition, it ought to be treated.
Well, which is it?
by Saciu » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:46 am
by Kenmoria » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:47 am
South World wrote:2. Their experiences are not the product of "mental illness," "confusion," "disease," or anything of the sort -- rather, their understanding of their relationship to the world in the lens of gender does not correspond with their biological sex.
4. Any distress arising from this real disconnect between sex and gender is referred to as gender dysphoria -- like any mental condition, it ought to be treated.
Well, which is it?
by Kolm » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:00 am
by Ransium » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:09 am
Kolm wrote:Any difference in the brain to what it is supposed to be automatically must be classified as a mental DISORDER.
by Kenmoria » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:11 am
Kolm wrote:Nobody's going to point out that no substantial evidence to support the extraordinary claim that transgender people are the gender to which they claim to be? Any difference in the brain to what it is supposed to be automatically must be classified as a mental DISORDER. We must treat it as such, and not as a real, perceivable thing that allows transgender people to believe they really are the gender to which they claim to be. I once had a conversation with another person that said "Genderfluid people exist because they say genderfluid exists," which is a terrible mindset and ideologues like that will lead to the inevitable disunity of the WA.
by Separatist Peoples » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:14 am
Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:This Proposal violates Freedom of Religion, as it is forcing religious members of WA to accept what is against their beliefs. You can expect that I am very much Against this vote.
Kolm wrote:Nobody's going to point out that no substantial evidence to support the extraordinary claim that transgender people are the gender to which they claim to be? Any difference in the brain to what it is supposed to be automatically must be classified as a mental DISORDER. We must treat it as such, and not as a real, perceivable thing that allows transgender people to believe they really are the gender to which they claim to be. I once had a conversation with another person that said "Genderfluid people exist because they say genderfluid exists," which is a terrible mindset and ideologues like that will lead to the inevitable disunity of the WA.
by A Cornstar » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:14 am
by Thorackistan » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:26 am
by Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:34 am
Kolm wrote:Nobody's going to point out that no substantial evidence to support the extraordinary claim that transgender people are the gender to which they claim to be? Any difference in the brain to what it is supposed to be automatically must be classified as a mental DISORDER. We must treat it as such, and not as a real, perceivable thing that allows transgender people to believe they really are the gender to which they claim to be. I once had a conversation with another person that said "Genderfluid people exist because they say genderfluid exists," which is a terrible mindset and ideologues like that will lead to the inevitable disunity of the WA.
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by Otaku Stratus » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:34 am
by Savoir » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:52 am
by Kenmoria » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:53 am
A Cornstar wrote:Gender is the new fursona. I'll ignore it because it's a. not real, and b. totes gross. Given sex is not gender it can and should be regulated by different standards. I'd just as soon accept AIDS burgers for school lunches as I would "reassignment"(Bahometism)
by Morover » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:03 pm
Savoir wrote:"I quote the proposal, 'Any distress arising from this real disconnect between sex and gender is referred to as gender dysphoria -- like any mental condition, it ought to be treated.' We agree with the proposal's authors that gender dysphoria is a mental condition that ought to be treated. However, the treatment mandated by the proposal is not the kind of treatment that we believe is appropriate. As such, we are against the proposal."
Otaku Stratus wrote:I've never been more disappointed in you, NS.
Looking forward to the repeal.
by Scherzinger » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:07 pm
by Fulford » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:10 pm
by Morover » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:12 pm
Scherzinger wrote:surely you dont think this is a good idea. Anywhom, there are only 2 genders, and anyone who thinks otherwise has been....removed.....already. I dont believe this will have any effect on our nation's daily routines, even if we are against this....proposal
Fulford wrote:We here at Fulford are very liberal and have already created this law within our own nation through our parliament, now it is time for the globe to follow!
- Adam Salt, President of Fulford
by Savoir » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:14 pm
Morover wrote:"The proposal doesn't mandate the use of hormone therapy, it simply requires the option to be out there for transgender individuals.
Morover wrote:"I fail to see how one wishes to go about treating gender dysphoria should be up to their government - it should be made as a personal decision, no?"
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