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Araraukar
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Founded: May 14, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:35 pm

Cela wrote:Are you implying that socialist nations are illegal under international law?

OOC: Not illegal, you just have to jump through some extra hoops and put up with some whining from people who don't care much about roleplaying. The patent thing is easy enough to solve: just don't trade with the patent holder and put the would-be-patentable stuff in free-to-access database. Or ask some more advanced nation (where any such patents would have lapsed ages ago and are now common knowledge) to fork over the data. You might need to pay a one-time fee but will be free of the patent issue then. (For RL reference, imagine some nation somewhere only now inventing the lightbulb. The tech has been common knowledge for a very long time, so you giving the info you can basically find in Wikipedia, to another nation in similar stage of advancement as the patentee, wouldn't be that big an effort to you. You might have to send it printed out and could ask them to cover the postal costs.)
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Kenmoria
GA Secretariat
 
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Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:35 am

(OOC: Besides, the question of whether or not socialist nations can function in the GA is a moot point with regards to this proposal, since no aspects of the required education are specific to a certain ideology.)
Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
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Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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Tauride
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Founded: May 08, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Tauride » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:42 am

I'm surprised at this "Financial and Economic Education" proposal. It actually makes perfect sense for capitalist countries, with their ethical individualism and their massive bureaucratic institutions, both public and private, but not for those nations which intend to depart from that road. In the case of Tauride, for instance, it is a socialist country devoted to degrowth economics, agroecological ruralization and community-based cooperativism, and therefore most of the provisions of this proposal are not only useless for us, but actually harmful. It is just not true that such provisions are "neutral" and "very broad": they imply an agenda. In other words, I think that this proposal leads to the imposition of unduly disruptive measures on those WA nations which are seeking alternatives to the ruinous capitalist system.

I beg you to reconsider your vote, and leave those matters in the hands of each individual nation.
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Kenmoria
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Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:55 pm

Tauride wrote:I'm surprised at this "Financial and Economic Education" proposal. It actually makes perfect sense for capitalist countries, with their ethical individualism and their massive bureaucratic institutions, both public and private, but not for those nations which intend to depart from that road. In the case of Tauride, for instance, it is a socialist country devoted to degrowth economics, agroecological ruralization and community-based cooperativism, and therefore most of the provisions of this proposal are not only useless for us, but actually harmful. It is just not true that such provisions are "neutral" and "very broad": they imply an agenda. In other words, I think that this proposal leads to the imposition of unduly disruptive measures on those WA nations which are seeking alternatives to the ruinous capitalist system.

I beg you to reconsider your vote, and leave those matters in the hands of each individual nation.

(OOC: I'm not sure how you could consider education to be harmful. Could you elaborate?)
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Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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Creslonia
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Founded: Oct 27, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Creslonia » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:40 pm

"Quite possibly one of the best General Assembly proposals that I have seen in a long time. Creslonia values practical education, and our vote will reflect this. Creslonia will be voting for this resolution."
- Alexander Finch, Minister of Foreign Affairs

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Republic of Creslonia
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WayNeacTia
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Founded: Aug 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:34 am

"Could there possibly be anything much further from an international issue than this? So the WA has now mandated nations teach their people Life Management courses. Seems a tad unnecessary if you ask me."

Wayne
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Separatist Peoples
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Founded: Feb 17, 2011
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:28 am

Wayneactia wrote:"Could there possibly be anything much further from an international issue than this? So the WA has now mandated nations teach their people Life Management courses. Seems a tad unnecessary if you ask me."

Wayne

"If you'd been here to see some delegation's flat refusal to support proposals because they didn't understand basic finance terms, its possible that you'd see the wider failure in the membership here. Though, I suppose a requirement to 'bloody well look it up' would also have worked."
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Arachkya
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Founded: Sep 05, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Arachkya » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:08 am

"I can not belireve this passed, though our government is not spending a single Callah on this"

-Statement from the Government of Arachkya-
There is no divine feminine.

My nations policies are not economic, but a deliberate attempt to kill of the spirits and the sacred forests of the Pagan rebels.

My nation does NOT represent my RL views.

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Kenmoria
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Founded: Jul 03, 2017
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:24 pm

Financial and Economic Education was passed 11,435 votes to 2,185.



Arachkya wrote:"I can not belireve this passed, though our government is not spending a single Callah on this"

-Statement from the Government of Arachkya-

(OOC: If you don’t spend a single Callah on this, then you will be fined many times more Callahs by the Compliance Commission, according to the Administrative Compliance Act. Also, it’s considered poor form to blindly commit to noncompliance in these forums, without proper roleplaying of effects.)
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Hello! I’m a GAer and NS Roleplayer from the United Kingdom.
My pronouns are he/him.
Any posts that I make as GenSec will be clearly marked as such and OOC. Conversely, my IC ambassador in the General Assembly is Ambassador Fortier. I’m always happy to discuss ideas about proposals, particularly if grammar or wording are in issue. I am also Executive Deputy Minister for the WA Ministry of TNP.
Kenmoria is an illiberal yet democratic nation pursuing the goals of communism in a semi-effective fashion. It has a very broad diplomatic presence despite being economically developing, mainly to seek help in recovering from the effect of a recent civil war. Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, I will eventually finish it.

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