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Ordivus
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Postby Ordivus » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:39 am

I like it. Solid ideas.

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Postby Untecna » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:51 am

Ordivus wrote:I like it. Solid ideas.

If by "solid" you mean "completely illegal ideas over the last page", then yes. I mean, some aren't but most are, or are ambiguous.

Did you have any ideas of your own or...?
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Postby Molotovsk » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:55 am

Freedom of...

Trial?
Privacy?
Arms?
Drinking?

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Postby Texkentuck » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:55 pm

We would like to withdrawal specific proposals.. Their is vast disagreement of this among the majority and minority vote on what constitutes a human right. We understand that vast nations have opinion. Has the WA come up with a definition for what is human rights?
Every proposal under the sun has been to the WA.

We propose to see a proposal for incentive to help upsarting buisnesses in our nations by the WA nations....Or is that too capitalistic?
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:05 am

Molotovsk wrote:Freedom of...

Trial?
Already done.
Privacy?
Already done.
Arms?
Not possible, as such, due to limits on WA authority set by an existing resolution.
Drinking?
Not done... but probably a matter that should be left at the national level, rather than handled by the GA.
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Postby Yaak » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:35 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Molotovsk wrote:Freedom of...

Trial?
Already done.
Privacy?
Already done.
Arms?
Not possible, as such, due to limits on WA authority set by an existing resolution.
Drinking?
Not done... but probably a matter that should be left at the national level, rather than handled by the GA.


Okay, then. What about regulations on taxes?
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Postby Untecna » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:36 am

Yaak wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:Already done.
Already done.
Not possible, as such, due to limits on WA authority set by an existing resolution.
Not done... but probably a matter that should be left at the national level, rather than handled by the GA.


Okay, then. What about regulations on taxes?

Most likely illegal due to GAR#17, but it depends, I suppose.
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Postby Yaak » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:39 am

Untecna wrote:
Yaak wrote:
Okay, then. What about regulations on taxes?

Most likely illegal due to GAR#17, but it depends, I suppose.


What I mean is regulations on how a nation can tax its people.
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Postby Untecna » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:46 am

Yaak wrote:
Untecna wrote:Most likely illegal due to GAR#17, but it depends, I suppose.


What I mean is regulations on how a nation can tax its people.

Definitely illegal due to GAR#17.

It says: " Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices"
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:26 pm

Yaak wrote:
Untecna wrote:Most likely illegal due to GAR#17, but it depends, I suppose.

What I mean is regulations on how a nation can tax its people.

If you assert that some practice is discriminatory, GA 17 does not block it.

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Postby Yaak » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:35 am

Untecna wrote:
Yaak wrote:
What I mean is regulations on how a nation can tax its people.

Definitely illegal due to GAR#17.

It says: " Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices"


Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Yaak wrote:What I mean is regulations on how a nation can tax its people.

If you assert that some practice is discriminatory, GA 17 does not block it.


Who's word do I take?
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Postby Untecna » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:37 am

Yaak wrote:
Untecna wrote:Definitely illegal due to GAR#17.

It says: " Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices"


Imperium Anglorum wrote:If you assert that some practice is discriminatory, GA 17 does not block it.


Who's word do I take?

Of course, you could outline what is discriminatory.
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Postby Hulldom » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:37 am

Yaak wrote:
Untecna wrote:Definitely illegal due to GAR#17.

It says: " Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices"


Imperium Anglorum wrote:If you assert that some practice is discriminatory, GA 17 does not block it.


Who's word do I take?

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Postby Yaak » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:39 am

Hulldom wrote:
Yaak wrote:


Who's word do I take?

The 44x General Assembly Author: Imperium Anglorum.


Fair enough, the masses stand out to be the owners.
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Postby Tsaivao » Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:12 am

Texkentuck wrote:We would like to withdrawal specific proposals.. Their is vast disagreement of this among the majority and minority vote on what constitutes a human right. We understand that vast nations have opinion. Has the WA come up with a definition for what is human rights?
Every proposal under the sun has been to the WA.


Welcome back, hopefully you've come here with a more open mind.

There are vastly different proposals that establish the rights of various groups in the World Assembly, ranging from LGBT rights to workers' rights to rights for sapient species to be treated equally under law and, yes, abortion rights. There is no uniform be-all-end-all "list of what can be considered a human/sapient right" since that would duplicate or contradict the vast majority of resolutions, as well as prevent new ones from coming about or allowing those rights to expand. Not to mention that most nations cannot unanimously agree as to what counts as a human right.

It's the same reason the US Constitution doesnt just say "here are all the rights our citizens have" in the first amendment and leave it there. If you must, you can consider the entire legislative body of the WA as that "list"

We propose to see a proposal for incentive to help upsarting buisnesses in our nations by the WA nations....Or is that too capitalistic?

Actually the government providing donations and incentives to new business is more of a policy of socialism ("capitalist" nations traditionally wouldn't interfere in the economy too much), but in either case you can try to slap a draft down and see what feedback people give.
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Postby Maredita » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:23 pm

I have two ideas in mind.

Are either of these available. I may want to start drafting them.

1. A resolution so that employers are required to leave time so workers get enough sleep.
2. A certain amount of physical activity in schools would be required.
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Postby Untecna » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:27 pm

Maredita wrote:I have two ideas in mind.

Are either of these available. I may want to start drafting them.

1. A resolution so that employers are required to leave time so workers get enough sleep.
2. A certain amount of physical activity in schools would be required.

1. I will assume this is already covered

2. I'm not too sure on this one.
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Postby Maredita » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:30 pm

Untecna wrote:
Maredita wrote:I have two ideas in mind.

Are either of these available. I may want to start drafting them.

1. A resolution so that employers are required to leave time so workers get enough sleep.
2. A certain amount of physical activity in schools would be required.

1. I will assume this is already covered

2. I'm not too sure on this one.

Okay.

Could someone check on the 2nd one? (if you aren't already).
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:33 pm

Maredita wrote:
Untecna wrote:1. I will assume this is already covered

2. I'm not too sure on this one.

Okay.

Could someone check on the 2nd one? (if you aren't already).

It's in the next one that will be voted on.
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Postby Cathamye » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:29 am

Maredita wrote:
Untecna wrote:1. I will assume this is already covered

2. I'm not too sure on this one.

Okay.

Could someone check on the 2nd one? (if you aren't already).


It looks like the proposal that addresses 2 (physical education) is likely to be defeated. If this happens you should consider drafting a resolution that focuses on physical education (without references to martial arts or self-defense/violence) and that might work as a standalone resolution!

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Postby Adrosa » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:31 pm

Hey, I had submitted a proposal to the General Assembly labeled, 'Sanitary Promotion Act', I wanted to see what you all thought and how I can achieve the necessary approvals for the proposal to reach a vote.

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Postby Untecna » Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:51 pm

Adrosa wrote:Hey, I had submitted a proposal to the General Assembly labeled, 'Sanitary Promotion Act', I wanted to see what you all thought and how I can achieve the necessary approvals for the proposal to reach a vote.

First off, this thread is for ideas. That proposal is submitted and was not drafted.

First, you should draft your proposal here on the forums. Then, let the advice and bashing roll in. After a few weeks (or months), your draft should be ready for submission.

Now, I'm not an expert in getting proposals passed, but you might want to try and get delegates to approve the proposal.
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Postby Unibot III » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:38 am

Is there anything on the books about like, child subsidies or old age security? I found it odd reading Resolution #344 that it treated poverty as almost exclusively as a problem for working adults, and it didn’t consider more specific forms of poverty like child poverty, senior poverty, and poverty among people with disabilities.

One of the things that bugs me about Resolution #344 too is it just permits nations to not pay social assistance if the economy goes into a downturn… which is when social assistance becomes most necessary to support households.

In Quality of Health Services, GA#97, the WHA can pay out money directly to assist nations in paying for health care if they’re deemed to be economically troubled.

So we have a contradiction in that a poor or beleaguered WA nation can receive external help for health care, but not social assistance. Why the one but not the other?

I’m wondering, just spitballing, if there’s a federalist answer to be had here, where WA nations are required to pay into an international pension/insurance/social assistance fund, the WA invests the money, and pays out transfers back to all WA Nations. It could be a redistributive construct, where there is a base line of social/health services that the WA is trying to meet for all nations, rich or poor. That way the WA is pooling its resources together to invest in social security rather than treating it as an issue that individual nations have to pay on their own, and can fail to meet at their discretion / economic necessity.

You could do it as an alternative WA General Fund (e.g., GA#17 says it’s the central source of funding, not the exclusive source), or you could do it as a pension fund that citizens pay into (GA#17 bans direct taxation, but doesn’t consider whether deferred pay/benefits is taxation.) The ideas bouncing in my head is what’s the opt-out mechanism, and what happens if a member-state can’t afford to contribute to the fund.
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