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[Draft] Rape Shield Act

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:09 am
by Separatist Peoples
Rape Shield Act
Regulation | Legal Reform


Lauding the trend among nations to enact protections for victims of sexual assault and abuse within their judicial procedures;

Concerned that not all nations have taken affirmative steps to protect those victims despite this progress;

Declaring that a victim's past sexual behavior is not a relevant or effective indicator of either their veracity or the likelihood of their consent to a specific sexual act; 

Disgusted that the accused may justify the exposition of a victim’s sexual history on the vile suggestion that the victim “asked for it;”

Demanding an end to this degrading and humiliating parade of a victim’s sexual history before a jury;

Further asserting that perpetrators of sexual violence against minors nearly always reoffend;

Believing that the risk of repeated harm is so high that past convictions are inherently relevant;

The World Assembly hereby enacts the following:

  1. “Relevancy,” as it pertains to evidence, is the tendency of evidence to make an element of a crime more or less likely.

  2. Member state courts may not admit opinion or reputation evidence detailing a victim’s past sexual behavior or proclivity in a criminal proceeding.
  3. Member states may allow the admission of other evidence of the victim’s past sexual behavior or proclivity in a criminal proceeding only

    1. to prove specific instances of a victim’s sexual behavior with the person accused of the sexual misconduct, if offered by the defendant to prove consent, or lack thereof, to the criminal act, or
    2. to prove that the accused was not the source of injury, genetic material, or other physical evidence, provided that such evidence is relevant and particularized to discrete events.

    Notwithstanding the above, member state courts must not admit relevant evidence of the victim’s past sexual behavior or proclivity that is substantially more prejudicial against the victim than it is probative to the satisfaction of the crime’s elements.

  4. Member state courts must admit relevant evidence that the accused was convicted of prior sexual crimes against minors in any case involving criminal sexual misconduct. Such evidence is relevant if, in addition tending to make an element of a crime more likely than not, the past crimes were materially similar to the present accusation. When weighing materiality, courts must consider the victim’s age, sex, relation to the accused, the nature of the assault or molestation, and other factors that may show a preference or mode of operation.

  5. Member states must create a judicial procedure for ruling on the admission of evidence subject to these provisions that allows both parties the opportunity to make a legal argument and receive a determination of admissibility out of the jury’s perception, to avoid engendering unfair prejudice. The party seeking to admit the evidence bears the burden to show that the evidence complies with this resolution or any rules of evidence enacted to comply with this resolution.

  6. Member states must conceal the victim’s identity on all public documents unless the victim expressly waives that right. Member states may seal the record of proceedings involving testimony of a victim’s sexual behavior or proclivities upon the victim’s request, provided the record is available to all parties for subsequent appeals.







Ooc: I know the formatting is awful. I'm doing it via mobile, so ignore that for the next 6 hours? Then you can attack me for it.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:19 am
by Marxist Germany
"Nothing to criticise, support."
Formatting

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:19 am
by The New Nordic Union
OOC: Looks good at a first glance, something that caught my eye right away, however, was
Demanding an end to this degrading and humiliating parade of a victim’s sexual history before a jury;

Not all member nations use juries; this should be taken into account.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:10 am
by Separatist Peoples
The New Nordic Union wrote:OOC: Looks good at a first glance, something that caught my eye right away, however, was
Demanding an end to this degrading and humiliating parade of a victim’s sexual history before a jury;

Not all member nations use juries; this should be taken into account.

"Its a prefatory clause, so I am not concerned with technical accuracy as much as rhetorical effect."

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:19 am
by Sierra Lyricalia
Uh... Psst... Legal Reform is an AoE of Regulation, and doesn't have strengths :hug:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am
by Separatist Peoples
Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Uh... Psst... Legal Reform is an AoE of Regulation, and doesn't have strengths :hug:

Ooc: B-b-b-brainfart!

I think I had intendedto put this into Civil Rights at first.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:58 pm
by The New Nordic Union
Separatist Peoples wrote:
The New Nordic Union wrote:OOC: Looks good at a first glance, something that caught my eye right away, however, was

Not all member nations use juries; this should be taken into account.

"Its a prefatory clause, so I am not concerned with technical accuracy as much as rhetorical effect."


'In your penultimate paragraph, you also refer to juries. Maybe you want to reconsider that instance.'

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:02 pm
by Separatist Peoples
The New Nordic Union wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Its a prefatory clause, so I am not concerned with technical accuracy as much as rhetorical effect."


'In your penultimate paragraph, you also refer to juries. Maybe you want to reconsider that instance.'


"Well, it could hardly say something else. Assuming your fact-finder is a judge, then you can't very well get rulings with the judge sequestered. This is pedantry for pedantry's sake."

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:08 pm
by The New Nordic Union
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Well, it could hardly say something else. Assuming your fact-finder is a judge, then you can't very well get rulings with the judge sequestered. This is pedantry for pedantry's sake."


'One could provide for one chamber to try the case, and another to be heard for questions of admissabilty... but we acknowledge your argument of over-pedantry and will pursue the matter no longer. It was but a minor nuisance to us in an otherwise well thought-out proposal, anyway. You have our support in the matter.'

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:43 pm
by Araraukar
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Well, it could hardly say something else. Assuming your fact-finder is a judge, then you can't very well get rulings with the judge sequestered. This is pedantry for pedantry's sake."

OOC: Not really pedantry when juries aren't a universal thing (especially ones made up of laymen) and you're basing mandates on their existence. Like, do nations that don't use juries, still need to create that thingy if there's no need for it? Maybe you could put somewhere something about "jury, if the judicial system uses one"?

On the "Member state courts must admit relevant evidence that the accused was convicted of prior sexual crimes against minors." bit - shouldn't it be "if the accused was convicted"? Or possibly "courts must admit as relevant evidence". And shouldn't that only come out if the victim was underage too? Or should all criminal records - both for victim and accused - be aired freely? I mean, if they're publicly available and all...

Also...
Upon the victim’s request, member states must conceal the victim’s identity on all public documents.

Why? And can they do that to the accused too? Especially if they're found not guilty? If the accused is found not guilty, can the victim's name then appear on the records as normal?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:57 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Araraukar wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Well, it could hardly say something else. Assuming your fact-finder is a judge, then you can't very well get rulings with the judge sequestered. This is pedantry for pedantry's sake."

OOC: Not really pedantry when juries aren't a universal thing (especially ones made up of laymen) and you're basing mandates on their existence. Like, do nations that don't use juries, still need to create that thingy if there's no need for it? Maybe you could put somewhere something about "jury, if the judicial system uses one"?

OOC: No, it is pedantry. Either a nation uses a jury, even if the use of that term is so loose as to mean any fact-finder who is not the judge, and therefore it applies, or the nation does not, in which case the fact-finder is almost undeniably the presiding judge. Since the judge cannot be sequestered from an evidentiary hearing that they must preside over, the dispute is only pedantic.

On the "Member state courts must admit relevant evidence that the accused was convicted of prior sexual crimes against minors." bit - shouldn't it be "if the accused was convicted"?

OOC: It seems unnecessary. If you were not convicted, no such evidence exists.

Or possibly "courts must admit as relevant evidence".

OOC: No. You could break that clause down into two parts: courts must admit the evidence, and that evidence must be relevant. I just shorten it.

And shouldn't that only come out if the victim was underage too? Or should all criminal records - both for victim and accused - be aired freely? I mean, if they're publicly available and all...

OOC: This is a good point. I should clarify that this rule exists for accusations of child molesting only.

As for the records, even if criminal records are not public, they are certainly discoverable in a trial setting. The exhibits and testimony in a trial are not necessarily public. So the lack of publicity shouldn't be an issue.
Also...
Upon the victim’s request, member states must conceal the victim’s identity on all public documents.

Why? And can they do that to the accused too? Especially if they're found not guilty? If the accused is found not guilty, can the victim's name then appear on the records as normal?

OOC: The victim of sexual assault is generally embarrassed of the process, and in more religious jurisdictions, can face serious persecution for being the victim. So, we protect them out of respect for their privacy. This is especially the case for victims of child sexual abuse, because they were minors when it happened and we treat the identity of minors as sacrosanct in most places.

I am not sure what you mean about the accused doing that, too. If you are asking whether the accused may ask for anonymity, then I would say that it is not required by these provisions. But I guess you could do so. I'm not sure why you would, since there is value in the public knowing what the judiciary does, but I can certainly see a state interest in restricting some of that information.

I don't see why the victim couldn't request anonymity even without a conviction. The idea is to protect them so they are willing to report the crime, and removing that protection if the case doesn't succeed won't have the encouraging effect.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:30 pm
by United Massachusetts
Yeah, this is good. For.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:34 pm
by Araraukar
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: No, it is pedantry. Either a nation uses a jury, even if the use of that term is so loose as to mean any fact-finder who is not the judge, and therefore it applies, or the nation does not, in which case the fact-finder is almost undeniably the presiding judge. Since the judge cannot be sequestered from an evidentiary hearing that they must preside over, the dispute is only pedantic.

OOC: So, I repeat:
Araraukar wrote:do nations that don't use juries, still need to create that thingy if there's no need for it?

Because right now it says "Member states must create a judicial procedure for [this]". It doesn't say "unless you don't use juries".

OOC: No. You could break that clause down into two parts: courts must admit the evidence, and that evidence must be relevant. I just shorten it.

You're not so close to the word limit that you couldn't write it out like that, though. :P

OOC: The victim of sexual assault is generally embarrassed of the process, and in more religious jurisdictions, can face serious persecution for being the victim. So, we protect them out of respect for their privacy. This is especially the case for victims of child sexual abuse, because they were minors when it happened and we treat the identity of minors as sacrosanct in most places.

For minors I would think it would make sense to strike their names out of public records regardless of if they were the accused or accuser, and whether or not the topic was sexual assault. Also, rather than let societal fucked-upness continue with the force of WA law, it should instead be made criminal for uninvolved parties to use being raped as grounds for discrimination of any kind.

I am not sure what you mean about the accused doing that, too. If you are asking whether the accused may ask for anonymity, then I would say that it is not required by these provisions. But I guess you could do so. I'm not sure why you would, since there is value in the public knowing what the judiciary does, but I can certainly see a state interest in restricting some of that information.

Yeah, I should have specified that the "they" in there meant "whoever censors the victim's name". Since if the victim is protected as they might get a bad reputation and get harassed, etc., certainly that's true for the accused as well?

I don't see why the victim couldn't request anonymity even without a conviction.

But what if the former accused wants to sue them (in systems where that's possible) for falsely accusing them? Or whatever the correct legal term is for doing that. Besmirching their honor and all that. Surely the records of the court proceedings should then have the victim's name on them, if they were used as evidence? I mean, like, I get it that the general public shouldn't find out in societies that are fucked up enough to blame the victim, but when it comes to actual formal record? Even in real life the uncensored records must exist somewhere, with just restricted access to them.

That reminds me, can the fact that the accuser has accused someone else before for the same crime be used as evidence against them?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:36 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Araraukar wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: No, it is pedantry. Either a nation uses a jury, even if the use of that term is so loose as to mean any fact-finder who is not the judge, and therefore it applies, or the nation does not, in which case the fact-finder is almost undeniably the presiding judge. Since the judge cannot be sequestered from an evidentiary hearing that they must preside over, the dispute is only pedantic.

OOC: So, I repeat:
Araraukar wrote:do nations that don't use juries, still need to create that thingy if there's no need for it?

Because right now it says "Member states must create a judicial procedure for [this]". It doesn't say "unless you don't use juries".

OOC: But if you don't use juries, then not making the procedure isn't noncompliance.

You're not so close to the word limit that you couldn't write it out like that, though. :P

OOC: No, but brevity is preferred where possible.

For minors I would think it would make sense to strike their names out of public records regardless of if they were the accused or accuser, and whether or not the topic was sexual assault. Also, rather than let societal fucked-upness continue with the force of WA law, it should instead be made criminal for uninvolved parties to use being raped as grounds for discrimination of any kind.

OOC: I had not thought of minors who commit sexual assault. I think that is a policy best left to member states.

There is a measure of practicality involved here. Sure, the status of being raped, or even the status of being a confirmed non-married, non-virgin woman, isn't one that should be subject to discrimination. And it probably isn't under CoCR. But regulating social behavior independent of government or even business interactions is...difficult.

For example, there are many places where the victim of rape would struggle to find a spouse or could be shunned by friends and family. Thats not something the WA can address without having Social Thought Police. So, you see why I would rather leave that to member states at this juncture.

Yeah, I should have specified that the "they" in there meant "whoever censors the victim's name". Since if the victim is protected as they might get a bad reputation and get harassed, etc., certainly that's true for the accused as well?

OOC: Probably. But there is a competing state interest in having the accused face public trial for the purposes of transparency. The victim's identity doesn't satisfy that interest, but the accused, as a party to the trial, does. Because that is a balancing of interests between the two, I felt it safer to leave that to member states as well.

I
But what if the former accused wants to sue them (in systems where that's possible) for falsely accusing them? Or whatever the correct legal term is for doing that. Besmirching their honor and all that. Surely the records of the court proceedings should then have the victim's name on them, if they were used as evidence? I mean, like, I get it that the general public shouldn't find out in societies that are fucked up enough to blame the victim, but when it comes to actual formal record? Even in real life the uncensored records must exist somewhere, with just restricted access to them.


OOC: So, at least in the US system, you don't need access to the public record to do that. The accused still knows the identity of his (lets face it, its 99.999% always a he, and I'm not fiddling with 'they') accuser, and can still bring civil suit against them. The public record does not identify the victim, but the victim is nonetheless identifiable by the court system and the accuser to the extent that it is necessary to connect the two.

Generally, that there is a police report (generally nonpublic) would be sufficient rather than needing the entirety of the trial record. That, rather than a criminal trial conducted by the state, would be the false accusation.

That reminds me, can the fact that the accuser has accused someone else before for the same crime be used as evidence against them?

OOC: No, the only evidence covered are convictions.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:42 pm
by Wallenburg
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: But if you don't use juries, then not making the procedure isn't noncompliance.

No, it would be noncompliance. The clause mandates the judicial procedure as described. It doesn't say anywhere that it only applies to member states that use juries.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:51 pm
by Separatist Peoples
Wallenburg wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: But if you don't use juries, then not making the procedure isn't noncompliance.

No, it would be noncompliance. The clause mandates the judicial procedure as described. It doesn't say anywhere that it only applies to member states that use juries.

OOC: Any procedure would keep such discussions away from a jury if the jury never existed. So any procedure is sufficient to comply if you have no jury. Including preexisting procedure.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:30 am
by Separatist Peoples
OOC: Ok, formatting repaired.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:25 am
by Kenmoria
“There is nothing much here that I can criticise; it has my support.”

PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:05 am
by Araraukar
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:No, it would be noncompliance. The clause mandates the judicial procedure as described. It doesn't say anywhere that it only applies to member states that use juries.

OOC: Any procedure would keep such discussions away from a jury if the jury never existed. So any procedure is sufficient to comply if you have no jury. Including preexisting procedure.

OOC: I've had this debate before (albeit in TGs), and at least some other people believe that regardless of if you have Thing X, if the WA mandates that you make something directly related to Thing X (like appoint an inspector of a thing), then you have to make it, whether or not it'll have anything to do after being created. EDIT: I'll get more replies on the earlier bits later, when I have more time to think. You and IA especially keep insisting that things be created and applied whether or not they're at all applicable...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:24 am
by Separatist Peoples
Araraukar wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: Any procedure would keep such discussions away from a jury if the jury never existed. So any procedure is sufficient to comply if you have no jury. Including preexisting procedure.

OOC: I've had this debate before (albeit in TGs), and at least some other people believe that regardless of if you have Thing X, if the WA mandates that you make something directly related to Thing X (like appoint an inspector of a thing), then you have to make it, whether or not it'll have anything to do after being created. EDIT: I'll get more replies on the earlier bits later, when I have more time to think. You and IA especially keep insisting that things be created and applied whether or not they're at all applicable...

Ooc: I mean, you can take a deliberately frustrating interpretation if you want, but that's on you.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:13 am
by Separatist Peoples
Ooc: ok, cool, so other than a dispute about interpreting compliance, this is perfect?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:04 am
by Marxist Germany
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: ok, cool, so other than a dispute about interpreting compliance, this is perfect?

OOC:Yes

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:09 am
by Kenmoria
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: ok, cool, so other than a dispute about interpreting compliance, this is perfect?

(OOC: Yes, there aren’t any changes I can see that could objectively improve this.)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:44 am
by Separatist Peoples
Marxist Germany wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: ok, cool, so other than a dispute about interpreting compliance, this is perfect?

OOC:Yes
Kenmoria wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: ok, cool, so other than a dispute about interpreting compliance, this is perfect?

(OOC: Yes, there aren’t any changes I can see that could objectively improve this.)



OOC: I don't believe you.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:04 am
by Marxist Germany
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:Yes
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: Yes, there aren’t any changes I can see that could objectively improve this.)



OOC: I don't believe you.

OOC:You should believe us.