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[DRAFT] On the Claiming of Astronomical Bodies

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[DRAFT] On the Claiming of Astronomical Bodies

Postby Kolm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:26 am

Category: Political Stability
Strength: Mild
Description:
This fair and august World Assembly,

Noting that the cosmos is the final frontier,

Recognizing that the exploration and discovery of planets, spacial anomalies, and other phenomena is necessary,

Realizing that the colonization of outer space calls for a neutral representative to deal with claims to territory,

Hereby:
  1. Defines:
    1. Planet as "an astronomical object that orbits a star or stellar remnant which is large enough to hold a spheroid shape and is able to clear its orbit of any debris;"
    2. Planetoid as "a celestial body comprised of rock, ice, etc. that is smaller than a planet;"
    3. Interstellar space as "the area of space beginning at the end of the menopause of star systems;"
    4. Contamination as "the accidental introduction of alien species into a world's native ecosystem without a means of population control;"
    5. Terraforming as "the intentional alteration of a planet's atmosphere, soil composition, present species, etc. to better suit the living conditions of an organism or a group of organisms;"
  2. Creates IOTA (Interstellar Organization for Territorial Assemblage) and assigns it to:
    1. Act as a neutral third-party in territorial disputes between nations with the consent of the two or more nations;
    2. Maintain a starmap of all submitted claims of territory by World Assembly members;
    3. Record treaties and settled disputes over territory, updating the starmap as needed;
    4. Have a representative available to settle territorial disputes;
  3. Mandates members of the World Assembly to:
    1. Notify the IASA of any anomalous stellar or planetary activity detected in interstellar territory that is potentially dangerous;
    2. Have a diplomatic representative available at all times;
    3. Maintain the natural biodiversity and environment of life-supporting planets under the protection of the IASA by prohibiting the contamination of such planets without permission from the IASA;
  4. Encourages members of the World Assembly to:
    1. Resolve territorial disputes through a neutral third-party representative, preferably IOTA;
    2. Submit territorial claims to planets and planetoids to IOTA for the purpose of charting the galaxy;
    3. Construct starbases in interstellar space for the purposes of trade and commerce, refueling, or any other reasonable purpose;
    4. Propose suggestions of large scale projects;
    5. Engage in international science expeditions;
    6. Terraform planets to match the environmental criteria of the colonizer nation;
    7. Prevent the contamination of planets already supporting sentient complex life;
    8. Send statistics (i.e. mass, density, atmospheric composition) of planets owned by themselves or planets claimed by no such government to IOTA.

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Educational
Strength: Significant
Description:
This fair and august World Assembly,

Noting that the cosmos is the final frontier,

Recognizing that the exploration and discovery of exoplanets is necessary,

Believing that the categorization of planets is required for potential colonization,

Hereby:
  1. Defines:
    1. An exoplanet as "a planet that orbits a star outside of the Solar System;"
    2. A planetoid as "a celestial body comprised of rock, ice, etc. that is smaller than a planet;"
    3. A cold zone as "the area that is located after the habitable zone of a star;"
    4. A habitable zone as "the area between the hot zone and the cold zone of a star where liquid water and life is possible;"
    5. A hot zone as "the area between a star and the habitable zone of a star;"
    6. m as "the percentage of the mass of an object compared to the Earth, otherwise known as 'Earth Units;'"
  2. Assigns the International Aero-Space Administration (henceforth referred to as "IASA") to:
    1. Classify all exoplanets and planetoids using the following categories:
      1. Class M - A terrestrial planet which can support liquid water and complex life;
      2. Class O - An oceanic planet which has a global ocean and can support complex life;
      3. Class V - A terrestrial planet which has vegetation but has no animal life;
      4. Class D - A terrestrial planet which is habitable so long as pressure domes are used;
      5. Class C - A terrestrial planet which has liquid hydrocarbons instead of water;
      6. Class H - A terrestrial planet hostile to complex life;
      7. Class P - A planetoid with little to no atmosphere;
      8. Class T - A terrestrial planet which supports an atmosphere toxic to complex life;
      9. Class G - A gas giant located within a star's cold zone;
      10. Class J - A "hot Jupiter;" a gaseous planet located within a star's hot zone;
      11. Class R - A rogue planet, a planet that does not orbit any particular star;
      12. Class X - A planet previously able to support life but can no longer do so;
    2. Categorize exoplanets and planetoids by their mass using the following ranges:
      1. Asteroidan (m = 0 - 0.00001) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
      2. Mercurian (m = 0.00001 - 0.1) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
      3. Subterran (m = 0.1 - 0.5) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
      4. Terran (m = 0.5 - 2) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      5. Superterran (m = 2 - 10) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      6. Neptunian (m = 10 - 50) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
      7. Jovian (m = 50 - 5000) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;
  3. Permits the IASA to add, remove, and edit any existing or proposed categories for the classification of exoplanets and planetoids.


Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Educational
Description:
This fair and august World Assembly,

Noting that the cosmos is the final frontier,

Recognizing that the exploration and discovery of exoplanets is necessary,

Believing that the categorization of planets is required for potential colonization,

Realizing that the colonization of outer space calls for a neutral representative to deal with claims to territory,

Hereby:
  1. Defines:
    1. An exoplanet as "an astronomical object that orbits a star or stellar remnant which is large enough to hold a spheroid shape and is able to clear its orbit of any debris;"
    2. A planetoid as "a celestial body comprised of rock, ice, etc. that is smaller than a planet;"
    3. A cold zone as "the area that is located after the habitable zone of a star;"
    4. A habitable zone as "the area between the hot zone and the cold zone of a star where liquid water and life is possible;"
    5. A hot zone as "the area between a star and the habitable zone of a star;"
    6. m as "the mass of an object compared to 5.972 x 10^24 kg;"
  2. Assigns the International Aero-Space Administration (henceforth referred to as "IASA") to:
    1. Classify all exoplanets and planetoids using the following categories:
      1. Class L - A terrestrial planet which can support liquid water and complex life;
      2. Class N - An oceanic planet which has a global ocean and can support complex life;
      3. Class V - A terrestrial planet which has vegetation but has no animal life;
      4. Class D - A terrestrial planet which is habitable so long as pressure domes are used;
      5. Class C - A terrestrial planet which has liquid hydrocarbons instead of water;
      6. Class H - A terrestrial planet hostile to complex life;
      7. Class P - A planetoid with little to no atmosphere;
      8. Class T - A terrestrial planet which supports an atmosphere toxic to complex life;
      9. Class G - A gaseous planet located within a star's cold zone;
      10. Class J - A gaseous planet located within a star's hot zone;
      11. Class R - A rogue planet, a planet that does not orbit any particular star;
      12. Class X - A planet previously able to support life but can no longer do so;
    2. Categorize exoplanets and planetoids by their mass using the following ranges:
      1. Asteroidan (m = 0 - 0.00001) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
      2. Megasteran (m = 0.00001 - 0.1) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
      3. Subterran (m = 0.1 - 0.5) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
      4. Terran (m = 0.5 - 2) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      5. Superterran (m = 2 - 10) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      6. Upian (m = 10 - 50) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
      7. Hengian (m = 50 - 5000) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;
  3. Permits the IASA to add, remove, and edit any existing or proposed categories for the classification of exoplanets and planetoids;
  4. Creates InterCEPTS (Interplanetary Committee for Exoplanet and Planetoid Territorial Submissions) and requires it to:
    1. Receive any and all claims to exoplanets and planetoids;
    2. Dispute claims and come to a verdict judging whether or not it is deemed appropriate to obtain such territory;
    3. Revoke claims of territory from national and international governing bodies when deemed necessary;
    4. Be a neutral third party in territorial disputes between nations;
  5. Mandates members of the World Assembly to:
    1. Submit proposals of territorial claims to exoplanets and planetoids to InterCEPTS;
    2. Use a neutral third party representative to work out territorial disputes.


Category: Education & Creativity
Area of Effect: Educational
Description:
This fair and august World Assembly,

Noting that the cosmos is the final frontier,

Recognizing that the exploration and discovery of exoplanets is necessary,

Believing that the categorization of planets is required for potential colonization,

Realizing that the colonization of outer space calls for a neutral representative to deal with claims to territory,

Hereby:
  1. Defines:
    1. An exoplanet as "an astronomical object that orbits a star or stellar remnant which is large enough to hold a spheroid shape and is able to clear its orbit of any debris;"
    2. A planetoid as "a celestial body comprised of rock, ice, etc. that is smaller than a planet;"
    3. A cold zone as "the area that is located after the habitable zone of a star;"
    4. A habitable zone as "the area between the hot zone and the cold zone of a star where liquid water and life is possible;"
    5. A hot zone as "the area between a star and the habitable zone of a star;"
    6. m as "5.972 x 10^24 kg;"
  2. Assigns the International Aero-Space Administration (henceforth referred to as the "IASA") to:
    1. Classify all exoplanets and planetoids using the following categories:
      1. Class L - A terrestrial planet which can support liquid water and complex life;
      2. Class N - An oceanic planet which has a global ocean and can support complex life;
      3. Class V - A terrestrial planet which has vegetation but has no animal life;
      4. Class D - A terrestrial planet which is habitable so long as pressure domes are used;
      5. Class C - A terrestrial planet which has liquid hydrocarbons instead of water;
      6. Class H - A terrestrial planet hostile to complex life;
      7. Class P - A planetoid with little to no atmosphere;
      8. Class T - A terrestrial planet which supports an atmosphere toxic to complex life;
      9. Class G - A gaseous planet located within a star's cold zone;
      10. Class J - A gaseous planet located within a star's hot zone;
      11. Class R - A rogue planet, a planet that does not orbit any particular star;
      12. Class X - A planet previously able to support life but can no longer do so;
    2. Categorize exoplanets and planetoids by their mass using the following ranges:
      1. Asteroidan (0m ー 0.00001m) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
      2. Megasteran (0.00001m ー 0.1m) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
      3. Subterran (0.1m ー 0.5m) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
      4. Terran (0.5m ー 2m) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      5. Superterran (2m ー 10m) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      6. Upian (10m ー 50m) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
      7. Hengian (50m ー 5000m) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;
    3. Add, remove, and edit any existing or proposed categories for the classification of exoplanets and planetoids;
  3. Creates InterCEPTS (Interplanetary Committee for Exoplanet and Planetoid Territorial Submissions) and requires it to:
    1. Receive any and all claims to exoplanets and planetoids;
    2. Make rulings on whether or not a claim to territory by any governing body is permitted;
    3. Revoke claims of territory from national and international governing bodies when deemed necessary;
    4. Be a neutral third-party in territorial disputes between nations;
  4. Mandates members of the World Assembly to:
    1. Submit proposals of territorial claims to exoplanets and planetoids to InterCEPTS;
    2. Notify the IASA of any anomalous activity detected in outer space;
    3. Keep a record of timetables noting any flights pertaining to interplanetary relations;
    4. Have an interplanetary diplomatic representative available at all times;
    5. Permit members of the IASA to contact themselves at no discretion;
    6. Prohibit the contamination of planets with pre-existing life with alien organisms;
  5. Strongly encourages members of the World Assembly to:
    1. Record the solar activity of their home star and make the information available to the IASA;
    2. Resolve territorial disputes through a neutral third-party representative of InterCEPTS;
    3. Maintain open borders with the IASA;
    4. Send the statistics of any claimed or unclaimed planets analyzed by themselves or any other governing body;
    5. Prohibit the use of terraforming without the approval of InterCEPTS;
    6. Register any ships capable of traveling interstellar distances with the IASA.


Category: Education & Creativity
Area of Effect: Educational
Description:
This fair and august World Assembly,

Noting that the cosmos is the final frontier,

Recognizing that the exploration and discovery of planets is necessary,

Believing that the categorization of planets is required for potential colonization,

Realizing that the colonization of outer space calls for a neutral representative to deal with claims to territory,

Hereby:
  1. Defines:
    1. A planet as "an astronomical object that orbits a star or stellar remnant which is large enough to hold a spheroid shape and is able to clear its orbit of any debris;"
    2. A planetoid as "a celestial body comprised of rock, ice, etc. that is smaller than a planet;"
    3. A cold zone as "the area beginning at the outer edge of a star's habitable zone;"
    4. A habitable zone as "the area between the hot zone and the cold zone of a star where liquid water and life is possible;"
    5. A hot zone as "the area between a star and the habitable zone of a star;"
  2. Assigns the International Aero-Space Administration (henceforth referred to as the "IASA") to:
    1. Classify all planets and planetoids using the following categories:
      1. Class L - A terrestrial planet which can support liquid water and complex life;
      2. Class N - An oceanic planet which has a global ocean and can support complex life;
      3. Class V - A terrestrial planet which has vegetation but has no animal life;
      4. Class D - A terrestrial planet which is habitable so long as pressure domes are used;
      5. Class C - A terrestrial planet which has liquid hydrocarbons instead of water;
      6. Class H - A terrestrial planet hostile to complex life;
      7. Class P - A planetoid with little to no atmosphere;
      8. Class T - A terrestrial planet which supports an atmosphere toxic to complex life;
      9. Class G - A gaseous planet located within a star's cold zone;
      10. Class J - A gaseous planet located within a star's hot zone;
      11. Class R - A rogue planet, a planet that does not orbit any particular star;
      12. Class X - A planet previously able to support life but can no longer do so;
    2. Categorize planets and planetoids by their mass in kilograms using the following ranges:
      1. Asteroidan (0.0000 ー 5.9720 x 10^19) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
      2. Superasteroidan (5.9720 x 10^19 ー 5.9720 x 10^23) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
      3. Subterran (5.9720 x 10^23 ー 2.9860 x 10^24) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
      4. Terran (2.9860 x 10^24 ー 1.1944 x 10^25) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      5. Superterran (1.1944 x 10^25 ー 5.9720 x 10^25) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
      6. Aerian (5.9720 x 10^25 ー 2.9860 x 10^26) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
      7. Megaerian (2.9860 x 10^26 ー 2.9860 x 10^28) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;
    3. Add, remove, and edit any existing or proposed categories for the classification of planets and planetoids;
    4. Prevent contamination of life-supporting planets with alien organisms unless absolutely necessary;
  3. Creates InterCEPTS (Interstellar Committee for Existing Planetary Territory Submissions) and requires it to:
    1. Act as a neutral third-party in territorial disputes between nations;
    2. Maintain a starmap of all World Assembly nations' claims;
    3. Record treaties and settled disputes over territory, updating the starmap as needed;
    4. Consistently have a representative available to settle territorial disputes;
  4. Mandates members of the World Assembly to:
    1. Submit territorial claims to planets and planetoids to InterCEPTS for the purpose of charting the galaxy;
    2. Notify the IASA of any anomalous activity detected in outer space;
    3. Keep a record of timetables noting any flights pertaining to interstellar relations;
    4. Have a diplomatic representative available at all times;
    5. Register any ships capable of travelling interstellar distances for the sole purpose of diplomatic relations, WA science expeditions, or interstellar medical assistance with the IASA;
    6. Prohibit the contamination of planets supporting pre-existing life with non-native or alien organisms without permission from the IASA;
  5. Strongly encourages members of the World Assembly to:
    1. Record the solar activity of their home star and make the information available to the IASA;
    2. Resolve territorial disputes through a neutral third-party representative, preferably InterCEPTS;
    3. Build starbases for the purposes of trade and commerce, refueling, or any other reasonable purpose;
    4. Allow ships operated by the IASA to pass through borders with minimal security checks;
    5. Propose suggestions of large scale projects;
    6. Send the analysis and statistics (i.e. mass, density, atmospheric composition) of planets owned by themselves or any governing body that gives consent to do so or planets claimed by no such government;
    7. Register any ships capable of traveling interstellar distances with the IASA.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:33 am

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:35 am

OOC: Welcome to the World Assembly! Unfortunately this proposal doesn't really do anything. It makes no mandate on member states, just sets up a classification scheme that doesn't have any particular effect. Please have a look at through the extant resolutions and the proposal rules, and see if you can come up with something that will "improve the world" as the slogan goes.

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(OOC: In addition to the committee-only violation, I believe that ‘Mercurian’, ‘Neptunian’ and ‘Jovian’ are illegal for Real-life reference, since they are references to planets that exist in real life.)
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:40 am

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: In addition to the committee-only violation, I believe that ‘Mercurian’, ‘Neptunian’ and ‘Jovian’ are illegal for Real-life reference, since they are references to planets that exist in real life.)


...and a "Class M" planet being the kind that supports Earthly life is a Star Trek reference, fwiw
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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:59 am

“It should be mentioned that categories which have areas of effect do not, with one exception, have strengths. Therefore, your proposal is not a significant, or indeed any other strength, piece of legislation. Also, though this isn’t a rule, there are WA nations on planets other than Earth, so you won’t get support if you focus on defining things relative to the solar system.”
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Postby Kolm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:23 am

New draft in Spoilers! Thoughts? Just realize that this is my first proposal so I'm not that good at it haha
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Kolm wrote:New draft in Spoilers! Thoughts? Just realize that this is my first proposal so I'm not that good at it haha

(OOC: Don’t worry, everyone’s first proposal could do with some work. The new draft is much better, but still has a bit of a flaw. The only clause not to do with a committee is 5ii, as it is explicitly stated in the rules that filling in paperwork does not count as a non-committee clause, which is fine by itself. However, I’m not seeing how that clause fits into the education and creativity category.)
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Kolm wrote:New draft in Spoilers!

OOC: Leave the current draft unspoilered an spoiler the old ones.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:12 pm

OOC: IASA could be a plagiarism or RL Reference violation, as that was the name of the space agency in the show Farscape. Which should have also applied to #451
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Postby Kolm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:29 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:OOC: IASA could be a plagiarism or RL Reference violation, as that was the name of the space agency in the show Farscape. Which should have also applied to #451

Perhaps, but it doesn't seem to violate RL References rules as it has nothing to do with Farscape, nor does it pertain to what it is in the Farscape fandom. I think it'll be fine, but I wouldn't know; I'm not a moderator.
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Postby Kolm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:30 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
Kolm wrote:New draft in Spoilers! Thoughts? Just realize that this is my first proposal so I'm not that good at it haha

(OOC: Don’t worry, everyone’s first proposal could do with some work. The new draft is much better, but still has a bit of a flaw. The only clause not to do with a committee is 5ii, as it is explicitly stated in the rules that filling in paperwork does not count as a non-committee clause, which is fine by itself. However, I’m not seeing how that clause fits into the education and creativity category.)

I've edited it a bit. I put it in the Education and Creativity category because I wasn't sure where else it would fit. I also put it in there because that's where GA#451 was categorized under.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:35 pm

Kolm wrote:Area of Effect: Educational
Strength: Significant

This is not an educational proposal. It establishes an unneeded classification system and gives the WA total control over the borders of member states. That's not educational.
Kolm wrote:An exoplanet as "an astronomical object that orbits a star or stellar remnant which is large enough to hold a spheroid shape and is able to clear its orbit of any debris;

Why are we calling planets "exoplanets"?
A cold zone as "the area that is located after the habitable zone of a star;"

It is not "after" the habitable zone. Locations are not measured in terms of time.
m as "the mass of an object compared to 5.972 x 10^24 kg;"

This is a real life reference.
Classify all exoplanets and planetoids using the following categories:
  1. Class L - A terrestrial planet which can support liquid water and complex life;
  2. Class N - An oceanic planet which has a global ocean and can support complex life;
  3. Class V - A terrestrial planet which has vegetation but has no animal life;
  4. Class D - A terrestrial planet which is habitable so long as pressure domes are used;
  5. Class C - A terrestrial planet which has liquid hydrocarbons instead of water;
  6. Class H - A terrestrial planet hostile to complex life;
  7. Class P - A planetoid with little to no atmosphere;
  8. Class T - A terrestrial planet which supports an atmosphere toxic to complex life;
  9. Class G - A gaseous planet located within a star's cold zone;
  10. Class J - A gaseous planet located within a star's hot zone;
  11. Class R - A rogue planet, a planet that does not orbit any particular star;
  12. Class X - A planet previously able to support life but can no longer do so;

Why? What purpose does this serve? What international purpose does this serve? Are nations incapable of establishing their own classifications?
]Categorize exoplanets and planetoids by their mass using the following ranges:
  1. Asteroidan (m = 0 - 0.00001) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
  2. Megasteran (m = 0.00001 - 0.1) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
  3. Subterran (m = 0.1 - 0.5) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
  4. Terran (m = 0.5 - 2) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  5. Superterran (m = 2 - 10) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  6. Upian (m = 10 - 50) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
  7. Hengian (m = 50 - 5000) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;

Why are you making up words, and how are member states supposed to translate them? Also, all the previous questions.
Creates InterCEPTS (Interplanetary Committee for Exoplanet and Planetoid Territorial Submissions) and requires it to:
  1. Receive any and all claims to exoplanets and planetoids;
  2. Dispute claims and come to a verdict judging whether or not it is deemed appropriate to obtain such territory;
  3. Revoke claims of territory from national and international governing bodies when deemed necessary;
  4. Be a neutral third party in territorial disputes between nations;
[*]Mandates members of the World Assembly to:
  1. Submit proposals of territorial claims to exoplanets and planetoids to InterCEPTS;
  2. Use a neutral third party representative to work out territorial disputes.
[/list]

While the idea of addressing disputed territory is viable, the rest is not. No member state will allow the WA to dictate which uninhabited bodies their people may settle.
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Postby Kolm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:14 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Kolm wrote:Area of Effect: Educational
Strength: Significant

This is not an educational proposal. It establishes an unneeded classification system and gives the WA total control over the borders of member states. That's not educational.
Kolm wrote:An exoplanet as "an astronomical object that orbits a star or stellar remnant which is large enough to hold a spheroid shape and is able to clear its orbit of any debris;

Why are we calling planets "exoplanets"?
A cold zone as "the area that is located after the habitable zone of a star;"

It is not "after" the habitable zone. Locations are not measured in terms of time.
m as "the mass of an object compared to 5.972 x 10^24 kg;"

This is a real life reference.
Classify all exoplanets and planetoids using the following categories:
  1. Class L - A terrestrial planet which can support liquid water and complex life;
  2. Class N - An oceanic planet which has a global ocean and can support complex life;
  3. Class V - A terrestrial planet which has vegetation but has no animal life;
  4. Class D - A terrestrial planet which is habitable so long as pressure domes are used;
  5. Class C - A terrestrial planet which has liquid hydrocarbons instead of water;
  6. Class H - A terrestrial planet hostile to complex life;
  7. Class P - A planetoid with little to no atmosphere;
  8. Class T - A terrestrial planet which supports an atmosphere toxic to complex life;
  9. Class G - A gaseous planet located within a star's cold zone;
  10. Class J - A gaseous planet located within a star's hot zone;
  11. Class R - A rogue planet, a planet that does not orbit any particular star;
  12. Class X - A planet previously able to support life but can no longer do so;

Why? What purpose does this serve? What international purpose does this serve? Are nations incapable of establishing their own classifications?
]Categorize exoplanets and planetoids by their mass using the following ranges:
  1. Asteroidan (m = 0 - 0.00001) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
  2. Megasteran (m = 0.00001 - 0.1) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
  3. Subterran (m = 0.1 - 0.5) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
  4. Terran (m = 0.5 - 2) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  5. Superterran (m = 2 - 10) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  6. Upian (m = 10 - 50) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
  7. Hengian (m = 50 - 5000) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;

Why are you making up words, and how are member states supposed to translate them? Also, all the previous questions.
Creates InterCEPTS (Interplanetary Committee for Exoplanet and Planetoid Territorial Submissions) and requires it to:
  1. Receive any and all claims to exoplanets and planetoids;
  2. Dispute claims and come to a verdict judging whether or not it is deemed appropriate to obtain such territory;
  3. Revoke claims of territory from national and international governing bodies when deemed necessary;
  4. Be a neutral third party in territorial disputes between nations;
[*]Mandates members of the World Assembly to:
  1. Submit proposals of territorial claims to exoplanets and planetoids to InterCEPTS;
  2. Use a neutral third party representative to work out territorial disputes.
[/list]

While the idea of addressing disputed territory is viable, the rest is not. No member state will allow the WA to dictate which uninhabited bodies their people may settle.


To address your points:

1. I wasn't sure where else to put it, and GA#451 was under it, so I did the same. Please let me know if there's a better category.

2. I'm calling them "exoplanets" because depending on where you're measuring it from, a planet could be an exoplanet. To another civilization, Earth could be an exoplanet.

3. I do realize that "after" means time. Edited.

4. Quote from the NS FAQ: "They should not reference events, people, or things in the "real world" that do not exist in NationStates." If you know that the figure I gave is the mass of the Earth, then you are correct. However, Earth is real in NationStates, so it is allowed.

5. The purpose of the classifications I gave is to set a standard for classifying planets. It's easier to have a standard than have 200 different classifications systems. The purpose of the classification system is to help note what planets are habitable and what are not. It can also be used to note what gear/equipment to use when on the planet.

6. I changed "Mercurian," "Neptunian," and "Jovian" to "Megasteran," "Upian," and "Hengian" because someone mentioned that it may violate RL References. If it doesn't, I will change it back. What do you suggest I put instead? Also, not all words have to be perfectly translated.

7. I can see why you're concerned about the last part. To be frank, I'm not quite sure how to phrase the last two subpoints without the WA seeming like a dictatorship. I don't necessarily want the WA controlling which planets nations can own. If you're talking about the "revoke claims of territory," I mean that in the extreme cases. I'll make sure to make it clearer. I'm going to be working on this a lot so any other tips or feedback would be greatly beneficial on my part.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:11 pm

Kolm wrote:2. I'm calling them "exoplanets" because depending on where you're measuring it from, a planet could be an exoplanet. To another civilization, Earth could be an exoplanet.

In that case, you should just call them planets, since calling all planets exoplanets will be wrong from the perspective of any planetborne civilization.
4. Quote from the NS FAQ: "They should not reference events, people, or things in the "real world" that do not exist in NationStates." If you know that the figure I gave is the mass of the Earth, then you are correct. However, Earth is real in NationStates, so it is allowed.

That's not how the RL Reference rule works. If it were, nothing would violate that rule, just because some people RP Earth as being real in NS.
5. The purpose of the classifications I gave is to set a standard for classifying planets. It's easier to have a standard than have 200 different classifications systems. The purpose of the classification system is to help note what planets are habitable and what are not. It can also be used to note what gear/equipment to use when on the planet.

1. If the purpose of this system is to identify the habitability of worlds, then it simply will not work, as one world can be simultaneously uninhabitable to one species and Eden-like to another. Different species have different ideal environments. A one-size-fits-none system will not help identify inhabitable worlds for a great deal of member states.

2. Those member states that have the technology to settle planets to the extent that this system would be useful most likely would also have advanced terraforming or climate control capacities such that a body's natural inhabitability is of little concern.
6. I changed "Mercurian," "Neptunian," and "Jovian" to "Megasteran," "Upian," and "Hengian" because someone mentioned that it may violate RL References. If it doesn't, I will change it back. What do you suggest I put instead? Also, not all words have to be perfectly translated.

I am aware of the reason for the change, but the terms themselves are gibberish. I would suggest scrapping the system altogether, but if you insist on this idea then you should at least make sure that the terms mean something.
7. I can see why you're concerned about the last part. To be frank, I'm not quite sure how to phrase the last two subpoints without the WA seeming like a dictatorship. I don't necessarily want the WA controlling which planets nations can own. If you're talking about the "revoke claims of territory," I mean that in the extreme cases. I'll make sure to make it clearer. I'm going to be working on this a lot so any other tips or feedback would be greatly beneficial on my part.

If you don't want the WA to control which planets nations can claim or to eliminate the sovereignty of member states over their own well-established territory, then you shouldn't put that control in its hands. Ideas like "terrorism" and "large scale-abuse" are so nebulous that there's no way for member states to trust that the WA won't attempt to dissolve them for engaging in a defensive war or for rationing electricity or fuel in a crisis.
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Postby Kolm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:27 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Kolm wrote:2. I'm calling them "exoplanets" because depending on where you're measuring it from, a planet could be an exoplanet. To another civilization, Earth could be an exoplanet.

In that case, you should just call them planets, since calling all planets exoplanets will be wrong from the perspective of any planetborne civilization.
4. Quote from the NS FAQ: "They should not reference events, people, or things in the "real world" that do not exist in NationStates." If you know that the figure I gave is the mass of the Earth, then you are correct. However, Earth is real in NationStates, so it is allowed.

That's not how the RL Reference rule works. If it were, nothing would violate that rule, just because some people RP Earth as being real in NS.
5. The purpose of the classifications I gave is to set a standard for classifying planets. It's easier to have a standard than have 200 different classifications systems. The purpose of the classification system is to help note what planets are habitable and what are not. It can also be used to note what gear/equipment to use when on the planet.

1. If the purpose of this system is to identify the habitability of worlds, then it simply will not work, as one world can be simultaneously uninhabitable to one species and Eden-like to another. Different species have different ideal environments. A one-size-fits-none system will not help identify inhabitable worlds for a great deal of member states.

2. Those member states that have the technology to settle planets to the extent that this system would be useful most likely would also have advanced terraforming or climate control capacities such that a body's natural inhabitability is of little concern.
6. I changed "Mercurian," "Neptunian," and "Jovian" to "Megasteran," "Upian," and "Hengian" because someone mentioned that it may violate RL References. If it doesn't, I will change it back. What do you suggest I put instead? Also, not all words have to be perfectly translated.

I am aware of the reason for the change, but the terms themselves are gibberish. I would suggest scrapping the system altogether, but if you insist on this idea then you should at least make sure that the terms mean something.
7. I can see why you're concerned about the last part. To be frank, I'm not quite sure how to phrase the last two subpoints without the WA seeming like a dictatorship. I don't necessarily want the WA controlling which planets nations can own. If you're talking about the "revoke claims of territory," I mean that in the extreme cases. I'll make sure to make it clearer. I'm going to be working on this a lot so any other tips or feedback would be greatly beneficial on my part.

If you don't want the WA to control which planets nations can claim or to eliminate the sovereignty of member states over their own well-established territory, then you shouldn't put that control in its hands. Ideas like "terrorism" and "large scale-abuse" are so nebulous that there's no way for member states to trust that the WA won't attempt to dissolve them for engaging in a defensive war or for rationing electricity or fuel in a crisis.


I'm addressing your points, although to be honest it's hard for me to do so. I've never written a proposal before so I'm sort of working my way through this. I've removed the variable that I gave in my definitions and made the masses of the categories separate from that variable. I've also changed the three "gibberish" categorical names. Another thing, the reason why I gave the categories for habitability is because when looking for planets to colonize, it's much easier to colonize a Class L planet than a Class T. I'd think that civilizations would rather colonize an already habitable planet than waste resources terraforming one that isn't. It's a way to note planets for possible colonization.

I've edited the other points and have made a new draft. I'll also remove the point giving the WA the power to eminent domain.
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"Ambassador, we and most other countries are perfectly capable of cataloguing planetary objects without this arbitrary WA hand-holding. This brings no benefit and adds meaningless bureaucracy to our scientific endeavors. As well, there's no reason to think the WA's existing dispute resolution mechanisms are somehow inadequate for interplanetary claims just because they happen to be IN SPAAAACE!!!!!! We find the proposal purposeless and will oppose."

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Postby Kolm » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:36 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:"Ambassador, we and most other countries are perfectly capable of cataloguing planetary objects without this arbitrary WA hand-holding. This brings no benefit and adds meaningless bureaucracy to our scientific endeavors. As well, there's no reason to think the WA's existing dispute resolution mechanisms are somehow inadequate for interplanetary claims just because they happen to be IN SPAAAACE!!!!!! We find the proposal purposeless and will oppose."

OOC: Realize this is exactly the sort of micromanagement that GAR #451 was put in place to prevent. Unless you can articulate a real problem or disadvantage with the status quo, this really isn't going to get very far.


"To be perfectly frank, Ambassador Zakalwe, the purpose of the Planet Classification System is to format a standard for classifying planets. It's much easier to have a single classification system rather than 20, 200, or 2000 of them. I am also currently editing the draft to meet the points you've made. I will also add a special clause for "scientific endeavors," as you put it, amongst other things. Hopefully, we can reach a middle ground. No matter your stance, we thank you for your feedback."
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"To begin, Ambassador," said Markhov, looking briefly over a mysterious printed copy of the latest ICNN broadcast, "What, exactly, constitutes an 'exoplanet'? Indeed, the definition on the subject appears to be tied to 'the' solar system; I am certain you are aware that many countless solar systems exist, thus I can only assume that you quite presumptuously refer to your own. Quite simply, Ambassador, New Harron, is not an exoplanet - it is the homeworld of the Imperium. Further, the Imperium rejects the use of such obsolete terminology on principle."

With that, Markhov folded the newspaper and began to use it as an unnecessarily dramatic pointer.

"In any case, the Imperium finds these classifications arbitrary and insufficient. As example, this Class 'ell''. A great variety of planets may support liquid water and advanced species; these worlds may have very little else in common, great variations in atmosphere or gravity or primary surface materials - really, this is quite basic information, I would highly suggest comparing your Government's educational system with that of the Imperium.

Further, the categorization of mass is... rather lacking. The primary concern of the Imperium is the titles of each category; they appear rather arbitrary, perhaps culturally bound. The Imperium, of course, objects to the codification of foreign terms in World Assembly Law.

Additionally, the expansion of the mandate of the International Aero-Space Administration to include the prevention of... I believe the term used in the draft is, 'contamination'? How is this to be defined? Colonization efforts? Research expeditions? Deployment of technological methods of altering a planet's atmospheric state and soil chemistry - terraforming?"

He paused, briefly finding something worrying on the newspaper he was waving about.

"Yes... the, Interstellar Committee for Existing Planetary Territory Submissions; or, 'intercepts'. The Imperium objects to such a tortured attempt at an acronym on sheer principle. The Imperium has no desire for a 'third party' in any territorial disputes; the Imperial Diplomatic Oversight, or Military Oversight, as appropriate, is fully capable of handling such matters without the interference of additional foreign agents. Further, the Imperium will absolutely not permit a foreign entity to maintain record of the Interior Territories - such a 'starmap' would be a breach of security of the highest order, leaving the Imperial citizenry and the Imperium vulnerable to attacks by hostile civilizations. Nor will the Imperium submit any manifest of our territories to an unwanted foreign operation for such a violation.

Anomalous activities within the Imperial Territories are the sole exclusive jurisdiction of Imperial Intelligence - we will not provide any information on unknown situations to a foreign entity so long as such remains in the purview of information security. And, finally, the Imperium will not provide a registry of our military fleets, government vessels, or civilian craft, to a foreign entity, for the safety of the Imperium and its citizens. I must note, however, that this the clause this concern arises in may be interpreted as prohibiting the existence of Military spacecraft. This is, simply put, Ambassador, an act of war against the Imperium, were it genuinely attempted.

Finally, I will note that the Imperium will not, under any circumstances, allow foreigners or foreign craft to enter our territories. Our borders are closed violations of them will be considered acts of war themselves, or terrorist acts, as deemed appropriate.

In short; the Imperium is entirely opposed. Not only is there minimal need for this legislation, but it is quite a poor draft indeed."
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:25 pm

Kolm wrote:
  1. Asteroidan (0.0000 ー 5.9720 x 10^19) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
  2. Superasteroidan (5.9720 x 10^19 ー 5.9720 x 10^23) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
  3. Subterran (5.9720 x 10^23 ー 2.9860 x 10^24) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
  4. Terran (2.9860 x 10^24 ー 1.1944 x 10^25) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  5. Superterran (1.1944 x 10^25 ー 5.9720 x 10^25) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  6. Aerian (5.9720 x 10^25 ー 2.9860 x 10^26) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
  7. Megaerian (2.9860 x 10^26 ー 2.9860 x 10^28) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;


OOC: I guess these numbers are supposed to be masses in kg, but this is not clear from the draft. In the current form, it just looks like a bunch of random numbers.
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“5vi seems rather worrying given what ‘contamination’ could mean. As an example, if member nation A wishes to communicate with member nation B, which is on a different planet, that could be prohibited by this proposal, harming international trade.”
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OOC: Clause 4 does not make sense; it currently reads as 'The World Assembly hereby ... Consistently have a representative available to settle territorial disputes;' Maybe this is supposed to be 3 iv instead?
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Postby Kolm » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:37 am

The New Nordic Union wrote:
Kolm wrote:
  1. Asteroidan (0.0000 ー 5.9720 x 10^19) - small irregular bodies (below the hydrostatic equilibrium) that are not able to hold a stable atmosphere;
  2. Superasteroidan (5.9720 x 10^19 ー 5.9720 x 10^23) - only able to hold a significant atmospheres in the cold zones beyond the snow line;
  3. Subterran (5.9720 x 10^23 ー 2.9860 x 10^24) - able to hold a significant atmospheres after the outer edges of the habitable zone;
  4. Terran (2.9860 x 10^24 ー 1.1944 x 10^25) - able to hold a significant atmosphere with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  5. Superterran (1.1944 x 10^25 ー 5.9720 x 10^25) - able to hold dense atmospheres with liquid water within the habitable zone;
  6. Aerian (5.9720 x 10^25 ー 2.9860 x 10^26) - can have dense atmospheres in the hot zone;
  7. Megaerian (2.9860 x 10^26 ー 2.9860 x 10^28) - can have superdense atmospheres in the hot zone;


OOC: I guess these numbers are supposed to be masses in kg, but this is not clear from the draft. In the current form, it just looks like a bunch of random numbers.


The point above it says "mass in kilograms," although I will make it more definite.
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Postby Kolm » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:39 am

Kenmoria wrote:“5vi seems rather worrying given what ‘contamination’ could mean. As an example, if member nation A wishes to communicate with member nation B, which is on a different planet, that could be prohibited by this proposal, harming international trade.”

It's possible the definition for "contamination" is not clear. It specifically states "Prohibit the contamination of planets with pre-existing life with non-native organisms." I'll try to clarify.
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Postby Kolm » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:40 am

The New Nordic Union wrote:OOC: Clause 4 does not make sense; it currently reads as 'The World Assembly hereby ... Consistently have a representative available to settle territorial disputes;' Maybe this is supposed to be 3 iv instead?

Yes, it was a mistake on my part. I fixed it.
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