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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:03 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:OOC: Each side only enforces their claims on their side, so the other side is “unenforced”


OOC: So you're still basically encouraging an unregulated gold rush in any locale where there isn't a clear and overwhelming national monopoly on violence. Be aware this might not be super popular.

A note on categories: your preamble talks about the lack of environmental concerns on lifeless rocks, but no operative clause actually deregulates any environmental rules. There's mainly some stuff about the power of commercial actors to act free of interference from pesky little things like property rights or the best interests of the people of the (world, solar system, galaxy, etc.). This looks honestly closest to Free Trade, though you could maybe slot it into Adv. of Ind./CE if you added something to the effect of indemnifying extractors from liability for any actions taken in support of exploiting resources in areas that others have claimed and just, like, expected people not to waltz in like conquistadors "discovering" "new lands."


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Aureumterra wrote:OOC: Well then, submitted

Oops. Guess you should've waited more than a few hours after "last call."

Yeah, I see the category violation now that is has been made illegal, I’ll withdraw this and change the category
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:07 pm

Changed category, can I have a GenSec confirm if this is legal so another blunder doesn’t happen when I resubmit?
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:04 am

Aureumterra wrote:Changed category, can I have a GenSec confirm if this is legal so another blunder doesn’t happen when I resubmit?

bump
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“I suggest reworking your definition to clarify a ‘likely’ terraforming process. Almost anything can be terraformed, especially with advanced technology, so I’m not sure what you view as an unlikely terraforming concept.”
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:24 pm

Aureumterra wrote:bump

OOC: Bumping anything that hasn't fallen off the first page or has had replies in the last 4days on the GA forum is considered spammy. So there was no fucking reason to bump only after three hours. You need to understand that people have lives. And that if we're online and haven't posted further here that may be because we're expecting you to fix the bloody stupid content that has already been pointed out to you several times by several people. Then there's something worth commenting. But if you're just going "nuh-uh, it's perfect, Imma submit now", then why are you even here?

Also, legal =/= automatically good.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:19 pm

Wallenburg wrote:This prohibits member states from enacting legislation banning or even regulating private exploitation of "uninhabited" bodies.

So this is a feature, not a bug?
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:22 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:This prohibits member states from enacting legislation banning or even regulating private exploitation of "uninhabited" bodies.

So this is a feature, not a bug?

OOC: Based on what they've said before, yes.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:35 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:So this is a feature, not a bug?

OOC: Based on what they've said before, yes.

If that is the case, then this proposal contradicts many existing resolutions, including "Asbestos Consumption, Disposal And Worker Protection", "Toxic Heavy Metals Act", "Preventing Groundwater Contamination", and "Against Conflict Minerals".
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:42 pm

Wallenburg wrote:If that is the case, then this proposal contradicts many existing resolutions, including "Asbestos Consumption, Disposal And Worker Protection", "Toxic Heavy Metals Act", "Preventing Groundwater Contamination", and "Against Conflict Minerals".

OOC: Aside from that last, fairly sure all of those only apply within member nations' jurisdiction?
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:29 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:bump

OOC: Bumping anything that hasn't fallen off the first page or has had replies in the last 4days on the GA forum is considered spammy. So there was no fucking reason to bump only after three hours. You need to understand that people have lives. And that if we're online and haven't posted further here that may be because we're expecting you to fix the bloody stupid content that has already been pointed out to you several times by several people. Then there's something worth commenting. But if you're just going "nuh-uh, it's perfect, Imma submit now", then why are you even here?

Also, legal =/= automatically good.

OOC: I addressed all concerns that made sense without getting rid of the meat of the proposal. And yes, I know legal ≠ good, my nation wasn’t created yesterday, your opinion may or may not be the same as the WA, the voting floor decides that, not you. There is nothing wrong with asking if a proposal is legal or not before another blunder happens, if you don’t like the content, just vote against it
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:59 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:If that is the case, then this proposal contradicts many existing resolutions, including "Asbestos Consumption, Disposal And Worker Protection", "Toxic Heavy Metals Act", "Preventing Groundwater Contamination", and "Against Conflict Minerals".

OOC: Aside from that last, fairly sure all of those only apply within member nations' jurisdiction?

Well, duh, no resolution carries authority outside member states' jurisdiction.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:39 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Well, duh, no resolution carries authority outside member states' jurisdiction.

OOC: The proposal that this is the thread for, does. Or tries to. (Also, there are several others that do, especially the ones to do with war.)
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