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by Kenmoria » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:19 am
by Barfleur » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:51 am
by ENGRWGB » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:35 am
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: First off, welcome to the General Assembly, and well done for not just posting this draft immediately to the GA, and instead forum drafting. There is one illegality, namely that you have included the last line which breaks the branding rule. However, it could be that this isn’t part of the proposal, in which case this is perfectly legal.
However, a lot of players, me included, won’t like this as it is very micromanaging. The GA deals with broad international issues and human rights, not individual holidays from work. As such, I don’t believe this is a good topic to address. I do though urge you to come back later, maybe after spending some time in the forums, with a different idea.)
by The New California Republic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:41 am
by The New California Republic » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:46 am
by New Sukberia » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:48 am
The New California Republic wrote:OOC: Not all nations use a seven day week, nor do they use the same names for the days.
by Kenmoria » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:56 am
ENGRWGB wrote:Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: First off, welcome to the General Assembly, and well done for not just posting this draft immediately to the GA, and instead forum drafting. There is one illegality, namely that you have included the last line which breaks the branding rule. However, it could be that this isn’t part of the proposal, in which case this is perfectly legal.
However, a lot of players, me included, won’t like this as it is very micromanaging. The GA deals with broad international issues and human rights, not individual holidays from work. As such, I don’t believe this is a good topic to address. I do though urge you to come back later, maybe after spending some time in the forums, with a different idea.)
Thank you for the welcome. May I ask what line makes it illegal?
I think this is not micromanaging because this is not compulsory. Only those who want to rest during Saturday is covered by this resolution, and as such should be respected by their employer and even by the general public.
by Grays Harbor » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:01 pm
Optionality: Proposals, upon becoming resolutions are mandatory and binding on all member nations, thus language used must reflect this. Any language permitting nations to engage in non-compliance or opt-out are disallowed. However, for 'Mild' strength proposals, terminology such as "URGES", "RECOMMENDS" is acceptable.
by ENGRWGB » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:04 pm
Kenmoria wrote:ENGRWGB wrote:
Thank you for the welcome. May I ask what line makes it illegal?
I think this is not micromanaging because this is not compulsory. Only those who want to rest during Saturday is covered by this resolution, and as such should be respected by their employer and even by the general public.
(OOC: It is the last line that makes this illegal. The branding rule declares that no member nations or regions can be mentioned in a proposal, so having a ‘signed’ line at the bottom isn’t allowed.
I do disagree with you in that this very much is micromanaging. In general, the GA should only interfere when there is a human right at play, or some international utility; individual employees aren’t entities crossing country borders, nor is there a fundamental right to a day of rest.)
by Maowi » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:11 pm
by Kenmoria » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:12 pm
ENGRWGB wrote:Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: It is the last line that makes this illegal. The branding rule declares that no member nations or regions can be mentioned in a proposal, so having a ‘signed’ line at the bottom isn’t allowed.
I do disagree with you in that this very much is micromanaging. In general, the GA should only interfere when there is a human right at play, or some international utility; individual employees aren’t entities crossing country borders, nor is there a fundamental right to a day of rest.)
I could remove the last line that makes this proposal illegal, maybe I can still push through this proposal? And see if this will be approved?
by Wallenburg » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:42 pm
by Marxist Germany » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:14 pm
ENGRWGB wrote:Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: First off, welcome to the General Assembly, and well done for not just posting this draft immediately to the GA, and instead forum drafting. There is one illegality, namely that you have included the last line which breaks the branding rule. However, it could be that this isn’t part of the proposal, in which case this is perfectly legal.
However, a lot of players, me included, won’t like this as it is very micromanaging. The GA deals with broad international issues and human rights, not individual holidays from work. As such, I don’t believe this is a good topic to address. I do though urge you to come back later, maybe after spending some time in the forums, with a different idea.)
Thank you for the welcome. May I ask what line makes it illegal?
I think this is not micromanaging because this is not compulsory. Only those who want to rest during Saturday is covered by this resolution, and as such should be respected by their employer and even by the general public.
by Araraukar » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:37 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Sunday is the 7th day of the week.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Marxist Germany » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:01 pm
Araraukar wrote:Wallenburg wrote:Sunday is the 7th day of the week.
OOC: ^This.Just as a random OOC aside, the names of days in Finnish:
Maanantai
Tiistai
Keskiviikko
Torstai
Perjantai
Lauantai
Sunnuntai
As you can probably see, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday are pretty similar as names for the days of the week (they came into Finnish use from Swedish), but the "tai" ending doesn't equal "day" (which is "päivä", for the reference). Also, keskiviikko (day names aren't capitalized in Finnish) literally means "middle-week". Where perjantai and lauantai come from, linguistically, I've no idea, just that for most Finns these days lauantai is a much holier day than sunnuntai (church services are held are on Sunday morning), because that evening is pretty much the evening for going to sauna, and most people, even though they belong to the Lutheran church, just don't go to church services. Just some random cultural knowledge.
by Araraukar » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:43 pm
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:I'm learning German and they also have a day called "Mittwoch" (Wednesday) which literally means middle week.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Hatzisland » Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:34 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Sunday is the 7th day of the week.
by Liberimery » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:44 pm
ENGRWGB wrote:I checked the dictionary, encyclopedia, our calendar and even the NASA's calendar - Saturday is the seventh day of the week.
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