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Cretalia
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WA resolution death penalty

Postby Cretalia » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:55 am

end excessive cruelty in the application of the death penalty.
Type: Civil Rights
Strength: Mild

RECOGNIZING that every nation has a right to execute citizens if they so choose

ACKNOWLEDGES that people condemned to death have already been found guilty by the respective judicial systems of the nation that has condemned them, therefore do not need to be tortured for a confession.

ACKNOWLEDGES the purpose of the death penalty is to deter new crime and remove dangerous criminals from society permanently

AWARE that death is a punishment in and of itself

CONSIDERS there is no need to prolong the suffering of a condemned person.

REQUIRES all methods of execution to be relatively humane.

and URGES all member nations to have less cruel methods of capital punishment.


Note: as you can probably tell, this is my first WA resolution draft. any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated, and thank you for taking the time to read this
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Iciaros
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Postby Iciaros » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:06 am

(OOC: By the way, that's not how the proposal command works (I learned that myself in a less than ideal way), the proposal command links to a proposal that is currently in the WA, whether at vote or awaiting approvals. You might want to use the [box] command instead, to enclose your proposal in a box.

Oh, and welcome to the wild wild world of resolution drafting! I haven't checked to see whether there is an overlap or contradiction between this and other legislation, but you might want to check the list of previously passed resolutions if you haven't already. There may be some things in there that may be of use to you, and that you may want to consider in your own proposal (for instance, the now-repealed Convention on Execution).

Best of luck to you! I'll skim through what I can and see if there's any advice on legality I can give you. I'll leave the advice on how to better structure the proposal to my learned colleagues, at least for now.)

EDIT:
(OOC: As far as I can tell, at least on a quick skim, there doesn't appear to be anything on how executions are to be carried out, just when (as with Preventing the Execution of Innocents). You should probably take note of the fact that, right now, there is only one actual mandatory clause (requiring humaneness in execution), so that is the only thing I'm checking against legality, but I predict that will change soon when others give their advice. For now, I'll just note that it's a little vague, so you may want to refine what constitutes 'humaneness'. Also, some non-human WA nations may object to a humanocentric term, though I'm not entirely sure if that will happen.)
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:49 am

OOC:Illegal because it duplicates GA#443 Preventing the Execution of Innocents (which I would like to be repealed)
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:52 am

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:58 am

That interpretation of the Operative clause rule is just wrong. Any reasonable interpretation of this proposal indicates the existence of an operative clause.

The proposal wholly duplicates (and as far as I can tell does not contradict) Preventing the Execution of Innocents.

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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:59 am

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348
You should probably read this before drafting
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:59 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:That interpretation of the Operative clause rule is just wrong. Any reasonable interpretation of this proposal indicates the existence of an operative clause.

The proposal wholly duplicates (and as far as I can tell does not contradict) Preventing the Execution of Innocents.

Oh ok
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Postby Hatzisland » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:29 pm

OOC: Welcome to the WA! I must say, for a first proposal, you did a great job(much better than me!) However, this proposition does violate GAR #443, which can be accessed in the General Assembly Passed Resolutions thread in the GA forum. Coincidentally, influential delegate Tinfect has authored the repeal of GAR #443, which can be accessed here -> https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=455682. You should debate it there. However, should the repeal succeed(something a majority of the WA wants, including myself) this plan would be legal(though it could use some tweaking.) Once again, welcome to the WA, and I hope you succeed on your many endeavors to come!
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