[Draft/Idea] WA Constitution/WA Reform

[Maowi]

Since you don't seem to have noticed yet, I'll pile on: this is extremely illegal by the metagaming and game mechanics rules. Read those rules here. Stop complaining about how everyone doesn't like your ideas and start getting rid of all the illegal bits. If you remove all the illegalities and somehow have a single clause left over, then we can talk.

If you have no interest in a legal proposal and instead want to change the game itself, take it to Technical where such things belong. They will tell you no for their own reasons.

Tell me some WA reforms that would be legal then underneath the rules.

Well if you want legal reforms which don't involve changing game mechanics, it's your job to think of them, isn't it? If you can't, go to technical.

[Republicanana]

A screen shows a group of people, standing in front of the Morovian Flag, alongside the flag of the World Assembly. The man at the front of the group opens his mouth, obviously trying to hold back laughter.

"I'm sorry, I just had to get Morover's entire WA Department in here to see this. Thanks for the good laugh, sir. You're going to do great things. They'll be absolutely fantastic." He manages to get out before snorting.

And, with that, the room erupts into laughter, and the transmission cuts out.

Is WA reform a joke to you as well?

[Separatist Peoples]

A screen shows a group of people, standing in front of the Morovian Flag, alongside the flag of the World Assembly. The man at the front of the group opens his mouth, obviously trying to hold back laughter.

"I'm sorry, I just had to get Morover's entire WA Department in here to see this. Thanks for the good laugh, sir. You're going to do great things. They'll be absolutely fantastic." He manages to get out before snorting.

And, with that, the room erupts into laughter, and the transmission cuts out.

Is WA reform a joke to you as well?

This reform is.

[Morover]

A screen shows a group of people, standing in front of the Morovian Flag, alongside the flag of the World Assembly. The man at the front of the group opens his mouth, obviously trying to hold back laughter.

"I'm sorry, I just had to get Morover's entire WA Department in here to see this. Thanks for the good laugh, sir. You're going to do great things. They'll be absolutely fantastic." He manages to get out before snorting.

And, with that, the room erupts into laughter, and the transmission cuts out.

Is WA reform a joke to you as well?

The man previously at the front of the room steps forward once more, again content to discuss this "proposal" with the author.

"No, I think WA reform is great."

[Republicanana]

Is WA reform a joke to you as well?

This reform is.

So what WA Reforms are not jokes to you?

[Morover]

This reform is.

So what WA Reforms are not jokes to you?

"GAR#2."

[Separatist Peoples]

This reform is.

So what WA Reforms are not jokes to you?

OOC: The kind that actually help the forum.

[Republicanana]

So what WA Reforms are not jokes to you?

"GAR#2."

GA #2 is what's holding the WA back from being able to change and get better for both the WA and the whole of NS.

[Morover]

"GAR#2."

GA #2 is what's holding the WA back from being able to change and get better for both the WA and the whole of NS.

"GAR#2 is the only thing keeping the WA from ascending into madness, as it stands. It keeps horrendous resolutions (such as this one) from reaching quorum, though this has more problems than just GAR#2."

[Republicanana]

GA #2 is what's holding the WA back from being able to change and get better for both the WA and the whole of NS.

"GAR#2 is the only thing keeping the WA from ascending into madness, as it stands. It keeps horrendous resolutions (such as this one) from reaching quorum, though this has more problems than just GAR#2."

We could amend GA#2, oh wait a minute, amendments are banned, and I am here a GA resolution to repeal the "No Amendments" will be illegal as well.

[Separatist Peoples]

"GAR#2."

GA #2 is what's holding the WA back from being able to change and get better for both the WA and the whole of NS.

OOC: Repealing GAR#2 will not change the rules.

The No Amendment rule isn't repealable. Its a fact of the game code.

[Morover]

"GAR#2 is the only thing keeping the WA from ascending into madness, as it stands. It keeps horrendous resolutions (such as this one) from reaching quorum, though this has more problems than just GAR#2."

We could amend GA#2, oh wait a minute, amendments are banned, and I am here a GA resolution to repeal the "No Amendments" will be illegal as well.

"Yeah, because that is the way that the otherworldly Gods have created this realm, and have made our minds incapable of amendments on international legislation. Nothing we can do to change that, unfortunately."

[Republicanana]

We could amend GA#2, oh wait a minute, amendments are banned, and I am here a GA resolution to repeal the "No Amendments" will be illegal as well.

"Yeah, because that is the way that the otherworldly Gods have created this realm, and have made our minds incapable of amendments on international legislation. Nothing we can do to change that, unfortunately."

Right here from the rules:

Amendments: A supplementary set of clauses that either enhance or modify an active proposal's text. Proposals cannot amend existing resolutions because the game's coding does not allow for it. To introduce new legislation, the active resolution must be repealed. This applies to appeals as well.

[Wallenburg]

Since you don't seem to have noticed yet, I'll pile on: this is extremely illegal by the metagaming and game mechanics rules. Read those rules here. Stop complaining about how everyone doesn't like your ideas and start getting rid of all the illegal bits. If you remove all the illegalities and somehow have a single clause left over, then we can talk.

If you have no interest in a legal proposal and instead want to change the game itself, take it to Technical where such things belong. They will tell you no for their own reasons.

Tell me some WA reforms that would be legal then underneath the rules.

You should not expect other players to build your proposals for you. Again, remove the illegal bits and then we can discuss legislation.

[Morover]

"Yeah, because that is the way that the otherworldly Gods have created this realm, and have made our minds incapable of amendments on international legislation. Nothing we can do to change that, unfortunately."

Right here from the rules:

Amendments: A supplementary set of clauses that either enhance or modify an active proposal's text. Proposals cannot amend existing resolutions because the game's coding does not allow for it. To introduce new legislation, the active resolution must be repealed. This applies to appeals as well.

OOC: That is what I so eloquently put, except I put it in terms that are in character.

[Wallenburg]

GA #2 is what's holding the WA back from being able to change and get better for both the WA and the whole of NS.

"GAR#2 is the only thing keeping the WA from ascending into madness, as it stands. It keeps horrendous resolutions (such as this one) from reaching quorum, though this has more problems than just GAR#2."

This is new. I thought that smart and informed member states did that.

[Republicanana]

WHEREAS, GA #2 is repealed
WHEREAS, there is a major need for a replacement resolution in order to establish rules to the WA again
Hereby, the General Assembly ratifies and accepts this proposed WA Constitution
Article I. The General Assembly
1. The General Assembly (GA) will maintain the same voting apparatus it has now, with every resolution being brought before the full GA in order to be voted on.
2. Members will be added to the process of determining which bills can be brought up to the floor of the GA. This will be due to the establishment of committees to have debate on these bills be extensive before bills hit the floor of the GA
3. The WA Secretariats will take applications and appoint members to the different committees in order to make sure that the best members are on the committee best suited to deal with the laws on that topic.
4. The Committees will be based on the Categories that members can make resolutions on now:
Advancement of Industry
Civil Rights
Education and Creativity
Environmental
Free Trade
Furtherment of Democracy
Global Disarmament
Health
International Security
Moral Decency
Political Stability
Regulation
Social Justice
5. The GA will have a recruitment arm in order to try to get new members to join the WA as part of a welcome telegram similar to what regions have when a nation is founded or refounded.
6. As with actions that SC takes, the resolutions being taken up will come into effect for the entirely of NS, not just WA nations, as WA actions will become the main body for international law.
Article II. Security Council
1. The Security Council (SC) will maintain the majority of the powers it has now, with voting on commendation, condemnation, and liberation resolutions.
2. The Security Council will now have four committees:
Condemnation
Commendation
Liberation
Armed Forces
3. As with the process for establishing committees for the GA, the WA Secretariat will take applications and appoint members to those committees
4. The SC will establish an army in order to both fulfill liberation resolutions and stop any raiders throughout of NS.
5. This army can work in conjunction with regional armies.

This first amendment removes the executive for now to help concerns with the worry over power.

[Separatist Peoples]

2. Members will be added to the process of determining which bills can be brought up to the floor of the GA. This will be due to the establishment of committees to have debate on these bills be extensive before bills hit the floor of the GA

Game Mechanics violation.

3. The WA Secretariats will take applications and appoint members to the different committees in order to make sure that the best members are on the committee best suited to deal with the laws on that topic.

Game Mechanics violation.

4. The Committees will be based on the Categories that members can make resolutions on now:
Advancement of Industry
Civil Rights
Education and Creativity
Environmental
Free Trade
Furtherment of Democracy
Global Disarmament
Health
International Security
Moral Decency
Political Stability
Regulation
Social Justice

Game Mechanics violation.

5. The GA will have a recruitment arm in order to try to get new members to join the WA as part of a welcome telegram similar to what regions have when a nation is founded or refounded.

Metagaming violation.

6. As with actions that SC takes, the resolutions being taken up will come into effect for the entirely of NS, not just WA nations, as WA actions will become the main body for international law.

Metagaming violation.

Article II. Security Council

1. The Security Council (SC) will maintain the majority of the powers it has now, with voting on commendation, condemnation, and liberation resolutions.
2. The Security Council will now have four committees:
Condemnation
Commendation
Liberation
Armed Forces
3. As with the process for establishing committees for the GA, the WA Secretariat will take applications and appoint members to those committees
4. The SC will establish an army in order to both fulfill liberation resolutions and stop any raiders throughout of NS.
5. This army can work in conjunction with regional armies.

This first amendment removes the executive for now to help concerns with the worry over power.

Game mechanics and metagaming violation.

READ THE RULES: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348

You can't change the way the game works. That will not ever be allowed

[Bananaistan]

OOC: I suggest that you learn what actually happens around here before suggesting technical changes. You can't expect to be taken seriously when nobody knows you and (more or less) your first post in the forum is to demand wholesale changes to how the GA works and NS works.

New players are often advised to read and post in other players' drafting threads as their first step in the GA. By doing so, you'll witness and build up an understanding of the culture and rules. At some stage in the future maybe draft your own legal proposal. Then when you're familiar with the GA, you can suggest changes to GA rules for proposals here in this forum, and changes to game mechanics in the technical forum.

Btw, your new draft is still entirely illegal. It's dead, Jim!

[Wallenburg]

Still illegal. Listen to Sep, remove the illegalities. Also, put whatever version is most recent in the OP by using the edit button.

[Morover]

"GAR#2 is the only thing keeping the WA from ascending into madness, as it stands. It keeps horrendous resolutions (such as this one) from reaching quorum, though this has more problems than just GAR#2."

This is new. I thought that smart and informed member states did that.

"Well, perhaps, but GAR#2 completely removes any possibility that this could reach quorum."

[Republicanana]

2. Members will be added to the process of determining which bills can be brought up to the floor of the GA. This will be due to the establishment of committees to have debate on these bills be extensive before bills hit the floor of the GA

Game Mechanics violation.

3. The WA Secretariats will take applications and appoint members to the different committees in order to make sure that the best members are on the committee best suited to deal with the laws on that topic.

Game Mechanics violation.

4. The Committees will be based on the Categories that members can make resolutions on now:
Advancement of Industry
Civil Rights
Education and Creativity
Environmental
Free Trade
Furtherment of Democracy
Global Disarmament
Health
International Security
Moral Decency
Political Stability
Regulation
Social Justice

Game Mechanics violation.

5. The GA will have a recruitment arm in order to try to get new members to join the WA as part of a welcome telegram similar to what regions have when a nation is founded or refounded.

Metagaming violation.

6. As with actions that SC takes, the resolutions being taken up will come into effect for the entirely of NS, not just WA nations, as WA actions will become the main body for international law.

Metagaming violation.

Article II. Security Council

1. The Security Council (SC) will maintain the majority of the powers it has now, with voting on commendation, condemnation, and liberation resolutions.
2. The Security Council will now have four committees:
Condemnation
Commendation
Liberation
Armed Forces
3. As with the process for establishing committees for the GA, the WA Secretariat will take applications and appoint members to those committees
4. The SC will establish an army in order to both fulfill liberation resolutions and stop any raiders throughout of NS.
5. This army can work in conjunction with regional armies.

This first amendment removes the executive for now to help concerns with the worry over power.

Game mechanics and metagaming violation.

READ THE RULES: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348

You can't change the way the game works. That will not ever be allowed

If you are telling me that adding forum threads to make committees and adding some work for you guys to take applications for people and appoint them to committees is illegal than come on.

[Separatist Peoples]

Game Mechanics violation.

Game Mechanics violation.

Game Mechanics violation.

Metagaming violation.

Metagaming violation.


Game mechanics and metagaming violation.

READ THE RULES: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348

You can't change the way the game works. That will not ever be allowed

If you are telling me that adding forum threads to make committees and adding some work for you guys to take applications for people and appoint them to committees is illegal than come on.

It violates the rules. Obey the rules or have proposals removed. Simple as that.

[Grays Harbor]

"Yeah, because that is the way that the otherworldly Gods have created this realm, and have made our minds incapable of amendments on international legislation. Nothing we can do to change that, unfortunately."

Right here from the rules:

Amendments: A supplementary set of clauses that either enhance or modify an active proposal's text. Proposals cannot amend existing resolutions because the game's coding does not allow for it. To introduce new legislation, the active resolution must be repealed. This applies to appeals as well.

And why might that be in the rules? Oh yeah ... Because It Is In The Game Coding.

Pay ... The Fuck ... Attention. Game coding is not something that can or will be changed on a whim.

Also ... “committees” for drafting are pointless. That is what this forum is for.
A. Post a draft
B. Everybody interested in that draft comments, helps, critiques
C. The draft is refined
D. Repeat B and C several times

So why is a “committee” needed?

[Republicanana]

Right here from the rules:

Amendments: A supplementary set of clauses that either enhance or modify an active proposal's text. Proposals cannot amend existing resolutions because the game's coding does not allow for it. To introduce new legislation, the active resolution must be repealed. This applies to appeals as well.

And why might that be in the rules? Oh yeah ... Because It Is In The Game Coding.

Pay ... The Fuck ... Attention. Game coding is not something that can or will be changed on a whim.

Also ... “committees” for drafting are pointless. That is what this forum is for.
A. Post a draft
B. Everybody interested in that draft comments, helps, critiques
C. The draft is refined
D. Repeat B and C several times

So why is a “committee” needed?

Changing an resolution will not affect game coding?

The committee is needed in order to speed up the process.