[Draft/Idea] WA Constitution/WA Reform

[Arasi Luvasa]

It will not speed up the process.

Resolutions are coded to have an effect on your game stats, amendments would be a messy process to implements. Again this is all stated in the stickies, GO READ THEM!

[Grays Harbor]

And why might that be in the rules? Oh yeah ... Because It Is In The Game Coding.

Pay ... The Fuck ... Attention. Game coding is not something that can or will be changed on a whim.

Also ... “committees” for drafting are pointless. That is what this forum is for.
A. Post a draft
B. Everybody interested in that draft comments, helps, critiques
C. The draft is refined
D. Repeat B and C several times

So why is a “committee” needed?

Changing an resolution will not affect game coding?

The committee is needed in order to speed up the process.

Pay

Attention

The category and strength are part of the game coding and effect the nation stats. That is why “no amendments”.

This committee idea is pointless, would add nothing, At All, to the drafting. Except ... no, except nothing, it adds no useful function whatsoever.

Stop before you dig your crater so deep your reputation here is irrecoverable.

[The New Nordic Union]

And why might that be in the rules? Oh yeah ... Because It Is In The Game Coding.

Pay ... The Fuck ... Attention. Game coding is not something that can or will be changed on a whim.

Also ... “committees” for drafting are pointless. That is what this forum is for.
A. Post a draft
B. Everybody interested in that draft comments, helps, critiques
C. The draft is refined
D. Repeat B and C several times

So why is a “committee” needed?

Changing an resolution will not affect game coding?

The committee is needed in order to speed up the process.

OOC:
Yes, it would. Consult this for further reference.

[BlackLight Covenant]

Ay, perhaps this thread could be locked, as it's going nowhere. The proposal is illegal, and I have yet to see the author remove the problematic bits. At this point, this whole discussion is nothing more than a lot of people explaining the same, unchanged problems.

[Republicanana]

Since the debate on this will take a long time. I am going to put out a draft for a resolution titled "Commitment to Exploring WA Reform"

WHEREAS, the WA is looking for needed reform to further its goals
WHEREAS, we as a collective group need to look together into these issues that face us
WHEREAS, the debate will be long and very hard to come to an agreement
Hereby, the General Assembly
PASSES this symbolic resolution in order to show that our members will come together to discuss the needed, legal reforms we can make.
AND LOOKS for a resolution between the member nations within the next year

[Bears Armed]

OOC
Illegal for doing nothing to justify the stat effects for whatever Category you would use to submit it.

[Republicanana]

OOC
Illegal for doing nothing to justify the stat effects for whatever Category you would use to submit it.

"Commitment to Exploring WA Reform"

WHEREAS, the WA is looking for needed reform to further its goals
WHEREAS, we as a collective group need to look together into these issues that face us
WHEREAS, the debate will be long and very hard to come to an agreement
Hereby, the General Assembly
PASSES this symbolic resolution in order to show that our members will come together to discuss the needed, legal reforms we can make in order to further the democratic ambitions of the WA
AND LOOKS for a resolution between the member nations within the next year

[Bananaistan]

OOC: Still illegal. Read the rules.

[Republicanana]

OOC: Still illegal. Read the rules.

"Commitment to Exploring WA Reform"

WHEREAS, the WA is looking for needed reform to further its goals
WHEREAS, we as a collective group need to look together into these issues that face us
WHEREAS, the debate will be long and very hard to come to an agreement
DUE, to the fact that members should be allowed to have more say in which bills go to the floor to a vote, instead of WA Secretariats who decide which proposals are legal and illegal not just on the rules but on the language in them
ALSO in order to attract more nations to the WA
Hereby, the General Assembly
PASSES this symbolic resolution in order to show that our members will come together to discuss the needed, legal reforms we can make in order to further the democratic ambitions of the WA
AND LOOKS for a resolution between the member nations within the next year

[Battlion]

OOC: Still illegal. Read the rules.

"Commitment to Exploring WA Reform"

WHEREAS, the WA is looking for needed reform to further its goals
WHEREAS, we as a collective group need to look together into these issues that face us
WHEREAS, the debate will be long and very hard to come to an agreement
DUE, to the fact that members should be allowed to have more say in which bills go to the floor to a vote, instead of WA Secretariats who decide which proposals are legal and illegal not just on the rules but on the language in them
ALSO in order to attract more nations to the WA
Hereby, the General Assembly
PASSES this symbolic resolution in order to show that our members will come together to discuss the needed, legal reforms we can make in order to further the democratic ambitions of the WA
AND LOOKS for a resolution between the member nations within the next year

Still illegal

[Zenithian]

OOC
Illegal for doing nothing to justify the stat effects for whatever Category you would use to submit it.

By this, they mean the stat effects that apply to WA members when a proposal goes through, not what effect it has on the WA as a whole.

[Wrapper]

Okay, this has gone on long enough.

Republicanana, you’ve been told several times, READ THE RULES. Not a single thing you’ve proposed is legal under the GA proposal rules. Take some time, read through the rules, especially the ones regarding game mechanics and metagaming, or else your time here will be short and painful for you.

If you want to make suggestions on changes to how the WA works, you can do so in the Technical forum. I will say, however, that the following suggestions are non-starters, so don’t bother:

— Any type of WA President or Secretariat. We had a WA Secretariat election a few years ago as an April Fools joke, and serious consideration was given to giving the position some real power. That idea was soundly rejected by both Moderation and the WA community as a whole.

— Drastic changes to the duties of the GA Secretariat. GenSec is working well; they are unbiased (they’ve made at least a few rulings against their own members, and their rulings are based solely on the rules and not ideological grounds), and, in my eyes, they’re doing a much better job of it than we moderators did. They are the arbiters of the rules, not committee managers.

— Changes to the approval process. We won’t be taking this power out of the hands of the delegates and putting it into some committee of WA members.

— Allowing amendments to resolutions. This has been suggested several times, and it just isn’t technically possible. Repeal/replace is the only avenue to change a resolution.

My advice to you is to take some time — months, not days — to learn how things work here, before you go half-cocked into suggesting any technical changes.