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[PASSED] Defending Rights of Sexual and Gender Minorities

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Falcania
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Anarchy

Postby Falcania » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:08 pm

Scherzinger wrote:
Maowi wrote:Banning same sex marriage entirely goes against the CoCR already, unless you can make up some compelling practical purpose for that


i think 'ill do what i want' is plenty fair kiddo


Sure, but then, in a very real sense, you are no longer a member of the World Assembly.
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Holy Britannian Imperial
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Ex-Nation

Postby Holy Britannian Imperial » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:32 pm

His Majesty's
Imperial Decree

Whereas we have already joyously read your proposal and arguments.
Whereas we have duly interpreted your proposal within our understanding.
And therefore we have already been made clear of the content within this bills.
And not withstanding that we should make it clear to ye.
And we content that our great nation shall vote 'AGAINST' for this proposal.

All Hail Britannia

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Arasi Luvasa
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Founded: Aug 29, 2018
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Postby Arasi Luvasa » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:47 pm

Scherzinger wrote:ive pretty much gone against everything in the WA that i considered rubbish and im still here


So in other words we should just ignore whatever input you wish to give. Ok, I don't mind.
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Durzan
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Durzan » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:20 pm

The Empire of Durzan hereby votes against this bill.
Come at me Bro.

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South World
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Postby South World » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:32 pm

This proposal grievously infringes upon the rights of sovereign nations. The World Assembly is to improve the conditions of people in the member nations but not by taking over and ruling the sovereign nations. I oppose this proposal and regretfully promise that if it passes, I will attempt an immediate repeal and if that fails I will resign from the World Assembly.
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North Power
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Founded: Dec 18, 2016
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Postby North Power » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:37 pm

there are only 2 genders

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Falcania
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Postby Falcania » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:43 pm

North Power wrote:there are only 2 genders


False.
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Qwabour Harbour
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Postby Qwabour Harbour » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:44 pm

North Power wrote:there are only 2 genders

what about non-binary people

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Kerchistania
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Postby Kerchistania » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:59 pm

Awesome! :clap:
The proposal looks really nice and helpfull. But judging by the high amount of votes against I think there is much more work to be done.
Should the next proposal be free basic education? :hug:

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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:44 pm

Scherzinger wrote:ive pretty much gone against everything in the WA that i considered rubbish and im still here

Then I don't give one iota what you think. Godmodders have nothing useful to provide.
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White Bluff
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby White Bluff » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:50 pm

Kerchistania wrote:Awesome! :clap:
The proposal looks really nice and helpfull. But judging by the high amount of votes against I think there is much more work to be done.
Should the next proposal be free basic education? :hug:

There used to be a rule for free education, at least under the Old assembly that we shall not name, but it was repealed, and I have no idea if a new one has been put in place.
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Wallenburg
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Wallenburg » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:32 pm

Kerchistania wrote:Awesome! :clap:
The proposal looks really nice and helpfull. But judging by the high amount of votes against I think there is much more work to be done.
Should the next proposal be free basic education? :hug:

There's this, among other, more specific legislation.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:05 am

Falcania wrote:
North Power wrote:there are only 2 genders


False.

are you serious?
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Falcania
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Anarchy

Postby Falcania » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:28 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Falcania wrote:
False.

are you serious?


Deadly serious
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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:28 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Falcania wrote:
False.

are you serious?

There is a wealth of history of cultures that recognized a third gender, or even as many as six.
While she had no regrets about throwing the lever to douse her husband's mistress in molten gold, Blanche did feel a pang of conscience for the innocent bystanders whose proximity had caused them to suffer gilt by association.

King of Snark, Real Piece of Work, Metabolizer of Oxygen, Old Man from The East Pacific, by the Malevolence of Her Infinite Terribleness Catherine Gratwick the Sole and True Claimant to the Bears Armed Vacancy, Protector of the Realm

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Samaster
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Founded: Jan 23, 2019
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Postby Samaster » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:34 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Falcania wrote:
False.

are you serious?


She should be since it is scientifically proven that there are more than 2 genders. There are even more than 2 biological sexes.

About the resolution at vote: In my perspektive this resolution has the same problem as "The right to self defense" in that it should be a matter of state, not the world assembly.

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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:38 am

Samaster wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:are you serious?


She should be since it is scientifically proven that there are more than 2 genders. There are even more than 2 biological sexes.

About the resolution at vote: In my perspektive this resolution has the same problem as "The right to self defense" in that it should be a matter of state, not the world assembly.

There are 2 genders/sexes, xx (female) and xy (male)
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White Bluff
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Postby White Bluff » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:48 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Samaster wrote:
She should be since it is scientifically proven that there are more than 2 genders. There are even more than 2 biological sexes.

About the resolution at vote: In my perspektive this resolution has the same problem as "The right to self defense" in that it should be a matter of state, not the world assembly.

There are 2 genders/sexes, xx (female) and xy (male)

Actually there is also XXY (intersex), plus before the rise of Christianity, many civilizations recognized multiple gender, the Native Americans as example recognized 5, male, female, two spirt male, two spirit female, and transgender.

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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:55 am

White Bluff wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:There are 2 genders/sexes, xx (female) and xy (male)

Actually there is also XXY (intersex), plus before the rise of Christianity, many civilizations recognized multiple gender, the Native Americans as example recognized 5, male, female, two spirt male, two spirit female, and transgender.

Native americans are not inherently right
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Former delegate of The United Federations; citizen and former Senior Senator of 10000 Islands; 113th Knight of TITO

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Falcania
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Founded: Sep 25, 2004
Anarchy

Postby Falcania » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:00 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
White Bluff wrote:Actually there is also XXY (intersex), plus before the rise of Christianity, many civilizations recognized multiple gender, the Native Americans as example recognized 5, male, female, two spirt male, two spirit female, and transgender.

Native americans are not inherently right


And we are to believe that you are inherently right?
II & Sports: The Free Kingdom of Falcania, Jayla, New Nestia, and Realms Otherwise Beneath the Skies

World Assembly: Ser Jeine Wilhelmsen on behalf of Queen Falcon IV, representing the Free Kingdom and the ancient and great region of Atlantian Oceania

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White Bluff
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Postby White Bluff » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:00 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
White Bluff wrote:Actually there is also XXY (intersex), plus before the rise of Christianity, many civilizations recognized multiple gender, the Native Americans as example recognized 5, male, female, two spirt male, two spirit female, and transgender.

Native americans are not inherently right

Neither are you, but we're still talking. And after a little research, there is such thing as people being born XXX, XYY, and a few others so there a few different sexes that are natural, we a just tend to cover it up and try to get rid of the improfects that make us who we are.

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Samaster
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[AT VOTE]Defending Rights of Sexual and Gender Minorities

Postby Samaster » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:01 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
White Bluff wrote:Actually there is also XXY (intersex), plus before the rise of Christianity, many civilizations recognized multiple gender, the Native Americans as example recognized 5, male, female, two spirt male, two spirit female, and transgender.

Native americans are not inherently right


Of course they don't have to be right, but intersex exists. Thus invalidating your point about 2 sexes, thus invalidating your point about 2 genders.

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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:08 am

Samaster wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:Native americans are not inherently right


Of course they don't have to be right, but intersex exists. Thus invalidating your point about 2 sexes, thus invalidating your point about 2 genders.

Conservative OWNED using FACTS and LOGIC
but in all seriousness, i need to do more research
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