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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:53 am

The gender-ambiguous Chancellor-Elect of Candlewhisper Archive Johnny Burger (née Susan Ortega) generally isn't a fan of the WA telling sovereign nations what they can and can't do, being a general believer in small world government. Zhe can't help but notice that this is a quite a directive piece of legislation, forcing quite a lot of heavy-handed instructions to WA nations which undoubtedly will create layers of bureaucracy as nationfolks try their hardest to circumvent such laws.

However equally, Johnny Burger had a tough time recently when visiting the United Federation. Sure, the fat-shaming was the larger part of it, as Johnny Burger loves the burgers, but the rampant transphobia was also deeply troubling. Johnny found that those of limited intellect and imagination could not conceive of anything other that cisgender heteronormativeness, and was disappointed in how entrenched in ignorance these people were.

As such, Johhny Burger feels that the world could be a better place. Zhe would like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.

Failing that, Candlewhisper Archive supports and urges others to support this resolution.
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Postby Reichsstaaten von Germania » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:54 am

“As Kaiser Of Germania and head of the German church, I cannot vote for this as it compromises the beliefs of the Christian bible and the sanctity of marriage in the view of the clergy. However, let it be known that homosexuals are not persecuted against in this nation. As for the status of woman, our nation believes in traditional values but woman do have the same rights as men but are encouraged and typically our woman stay at home. I would be fully in support of this bill if it were not for the infringement of our religious and social values”

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Postby Maowi » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:00 am

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:The gender-ambiguous Chancellor-Elect of Candlewhisper Archive Johnny Burger (née Susan Ortega) generally isn't a fan of the WA telling sovereign nations what they can and can't do, being a general believer in small world government. Zhe can't help but notice that this is a quite a directive piece of legislation, forcing quite a lot of heavy-handed instructions to WA nations which undoubtedly will create layers of bureaucracy as nationfolks try their hardest to circumvent such laws.

However equally, Johnny Burger had a tough time recently when visiting the United Federation. Sure, the fat-shaming was the larger part of it, as Johnny Burger loves the burgers, but the rampant transphobia was also deeply troubling. Johnny found that those of limited intellect and imagination could not conceive of anything other that cisgender heteronormativeness, and was disappointed in how entrenched in ignorance these people were.

As such, Johhny Burger feels that the world could be a better place. Zhe would like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.

Failing that, Candlewhisper Archive supports and urges others to support this resolution.


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Reichsstaaten von Germania wrote:“As Kaiser Of Germania and head of the German church, I cannot vote for this as it compromises the beliefs of the Christian bible and the sanctity of marriage in the view of the clergy. However, let it be known that homosexuals are not persecuted against in this nation. As for the status of woman, our nation believes in traditional values but woman do have the same rights as men but are encouraged and typically our woman stay at home. I would be fully in support of this bill if it were not for the infringement of our religious and social values”

Kaiser Konrad I von Volkheim


"If passed, this proposal would not force the German church to marry non-heterosexual people. However, it would mean that your Government would have to allow civil marriage of non-heterosexual people, unless heterosexual people are only allowed religious marriages. So your nation's religious values would not be infringed upon. Maowi believes that the World Assembly has a right to, as you call it, 'infringe' upon your social values, because in not allowing civil marriages between non-heterosexual people, you are 'infringing' upon their rights and beliefs."
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Postby Aleixandria » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:01 am

Aleixandria is pleased that this proposal is at vote, and encourages all members to vote in favour.
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Postby Friendly Persons » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:15 am

Maowi wrote:I have written a draft defending the civil and political rights of sexual and gender minorities, I'd welcome any feedback, advice and constructive criticisms. Thanks :)

Protecting the Civil Rights of Sexual and Gender Minorities

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexuality or gender of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexuality or gender,

REASONING that individuals of all sexualities and genders should be granted the same civil and political rights, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of sexual and gender minorities,

The World Assembly:

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract with or without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage.

Hereby,

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between individuals of a certain sexuality or gender to allow civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to previously passed extant World Assembly resolutions.
    2. ORDERS all member nations to provide the same civil marriage services for individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    3. COMPELS all member nations to grant the same marriage rights to civilly married individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    4. REQUIRES all member nations to apply legislation of the same scope and effect for the termination of civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders.

  1. MANDATES that every member nation must grant exactly the same rights, powers, permissions and services to individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to exactly the same qualifying conditions. Such conditions may not include the sexuality or gender of the individual(s) concerned.

  2. ORDERS all member nations to impose exactly the same sanctions or punishments on all organisations which deny any right, power, permission or service to an individual based on their sexuality or gender, as the sanctions or punishments imposed on organisations discriminating on the basis of other arbitrary, reductive criteria (such as, but not limited to, ethnicity, age and religion).
  3. MANDATES that all member nations must allow each of their citizens to choose or change their own gender, and that member nations must officially recognise and accept the individual's chosen gender.
  4. CLARIFIES that religious organizations and their internal discrimination do not fall under this resolution, and should be addressed by future legislation.
Protecting the Civil Rights of Sexual and Gender Minorities

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexuality or gender of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexuality or gender,

REASONING that individuals of all sexualities and genders should be granted the same civil and political rights, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of sexual and gender minorities,

The World Assembly:

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract with or without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage.

Hereby,

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between individuals of a certain sexuality or gender to allow civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to previously passed extant World Assembly resolutions.
    2. ORDERS all member nations to provide the same civil marriage services for individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    3. COMPELS all member nations to grant the same marriage rights to civilly married individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    4. REQUIRES all member nations to apply legislation of the same scope and effect for the termination of civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders.

  1. MANDATES that every member nation must grant exactly the same rights, powers, permissions and services to individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to exactly the same qualifying conditions. Such conditions may not include the sexuality or gender of the individual(s) concerned.

  2. ORDERS all member nations to impose exactly the same sanctions or punishments on all organisations which deny any right, power, permission or service to an individual based on their sexuality or gender, as the sanctions or punishments imposed on organisations discriminating on the basis of other arbitrary, reductive criteria (such as, but not limited to, ethnicity, age and religion).

  3. CLARIFIES that religious organizations and their internal discrimination do not fall under this resolution, and should be addressed by future legislation.
Protecting the Civil Rights of Sexual and Gender Minorities

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexuality or gender of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexuality or gender,

REASONING that individuals of all sexualities and genders should be granted the same civil and political rights, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of sexual and gender minorities,

The World Assembly:

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract with or without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage

Hereby

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between heterosexual individuals to also allow civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to previously passed extant World Assembly resolutions.
    2. ORDERS all member nations to provide the same civil marriage services for individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    3. COMPELS all member nations to grant the same marriage rights to civilly married individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    4. REQUIRES all member nations to apply legislation of the same scope and effect for the termination of civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders.

  1. MANDATES that every member nation must grant exactly the same rights, powers, permissions and services to individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to exactly the same qualifying conditions. Such conditions may not include the sexuality or gender of the individual(s) concerned.

  2. ORDERS all member nations to impose exactly the same sanctions or punishments on all organisations which deny any right, power, permission or service to an individual based on their sexuality or gender, as the sanctions or punishments imposed on organisations discriminating on the basis of other arbitrarily assigned human features (such as, but not limited to, ethnicity, sex, age and religion).

  3. CLARIFIES that all religious organisations are exempt from the sanctions and punishments imposed in part 3, but only where a majority of the religion's followers believe in the immorality of marriage between individuals of a certain gender or sexuality (because of religion and not their sociocultural values), subject to future World Assembly resolutions.
Protecting the Civil Rights of Sexual Minorities

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexual orientation of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexual orientation,

REASONING that individuals of all sexual orientations should be granted the same civil and political rights, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of sexual minorities,

The World Assembly:

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract with or without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage

C) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, a "non-sexually conforming individual" as a person who is neither male and sexually attracted solely to females, nor female and sexually attracted solely to males.

Hereby

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between heterosexual individuals to allow civil marriages between non-sexually conforming individuals, and vice versa, subject to exactly the same qualifying conditions. Such conditions may not include the sexual orientation of the individuals concerned.
    2. REQUIRES all member nations to provide exactly the same civil marriage services for heterosexual individuals as for non-sexually conforming individuals, or none at all for both groups.
    3. COMPELS all member nations to grant to all non-sexually conforming, civilly married individuals exactly the same marriage rights granted to heterosexual, civilly married individuals.
    4. COMPELS all member nations to implement legislation regarding the termination of non-sexually conforming civil marriages of the same scope and effect as the legislation regarding the termination of heterosexual civil marriages.

  1. MANDATES that every member nation must grant exactly the same rights, powers, permissions and services which are granted to heterosexual individuals in that nation to all non-sexually conforming individuals, subject to exactly the same qualifying conditions under which said rights, powers, permissions and services are granted to heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not include the sexual orientation of the individual(s) concerned.

  2. ORDERS all member nations to impose exactly the same sanctions or punishments on all organisations which deny any right, power permission or service to an individual solely or partly on the basis of their sexual orientation, as the sanctions or punishments imposed on organisations discriminating on the basis of any other arbitrarily assigned human feature (such as, but not limited to, ethnicity, gender, age or religion).

  3. CLARIFIES that all religious organisations are exempt from the sanctions and punishments imposed in part 3, but only where granting a certain right, power, permission or service to an individual of a certain sexual orientation is stated to be morally wrong in the religion's holy scripture, or a corresponding equivalent, subject to future General Assembly resolutions.
Protecting the Civil Rights of Sexual Minorities

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexual orientation of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexual orientation,

REASONING that individuals of all sexual orientations should be granted the same civil and political rights, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of sexual minorities,

The World Assembly:

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract with or without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage

C) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, a "non-sexually conforming individual" as a person who is neither male and sexually attracted solely to females, nor female and sexually attracted solely to males.

Hereby

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between heterosexual individuals to allow civil marriages between non-sexually conforming individuals, and vice versa, subject to exactly the same conditions. Such conditions may not, of course, include the sexual orientation of the individuals concerned.
    2. REQUIRES all member nations which provide civil marriage services for heterosexual individuals to provide those civil marriage services for non-sexually conforming individuals, and vice versa.
    3. COMPELS all member nations to grant to all non-sexually conforming, civilly married individuals exactly the same marriage rights granted to heterosexual, civilly married individuals.
    4. COMPELS all member nations to implement legislation regarding the termination of non-sexually conforming civil marriages of the same scope and effect as the legislation regarding the termination of heterosexual civil marriages.

  1. MANDATES that every member nation must grant exactly the same rights, powers, permissions and services which are granted to heterosexual individuals in that nation to all non-sexually conforming individuals, subject to exactly the same qualifying conditions under which said rights, powers, permissions and services are granted to heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not include the sexual orientation of the individual(s) concerned.

  2. ORDERS all member nations to impose exactly the same sanctions or punishments on all organisations which set, formally or otherwise, different qualifying conditions for the granting of any right, power, permission or service to heterosexual individuals and to non-sexually conforming individuals, as the sanctions or punishments imposed on organisations discriminating on the basis of any other arbitrarily assigned human feature (such as, but not limited to, ethnicity, gender, age or religion).

  3. CLARIFIES that all religious organisations are exempt from the sanctions and punishments imposed in part 3, but only where granting a certain right, power, permission or service to a non-sexually conforming individual is explicitly stated to be morally wrong in the religion's holy scripture, or a corresponding equivalent.
Protecting the Civil and Political Rights of Homosexual Couples

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexual orientation of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexual orientation,

REASONING that homosexual individuals should therefore be granted the same civil and political rights as heterosexual individuals, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of homosexual individuals,

The World Assembly

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage.

C) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, a "homosexual individual" as a person who is sexually attracted to a person of the same sex as them.

Hereby:

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between two people of opposite sex to allow civil marriages between two people of the same sex, subject to the same conditions under which civil marriage is allowed to all opposite-sex couples. Such conditions may not, of course, include the sexual orientation of the individuals concerned.
    2. REQUIRES all member nations which provide civil marriage services for two people of opposite sex to provide civil marriage services for two people of the same sex.
    3. COMPELS all member nations to grant to all homosexual, civilly married individuals every marriage right granted to opposite-sex, civilly married individuals, and no more.
    4. COMPELS all member nations to implement legislation regarding the termination of same-sex civil marriages of the same scope and effect as the legislation regarding the termination of opposite-sex civil marriages.
  1. MANDATES that all homosexual individuals in all member nations must be granted the right to partake in any political activity in which a heterosexual individual has the right to partake in that member nation, subject to the same conditions under which said right is granted to heterosexual individuals (these conditions may not include the individual's sexual orientation). Such political activities may include (but are not limited to):
    1. Voting in any sort of election
    2. Taking up any sort of political office
  2. RULES that each member nation must provide exactly the same government-run services - excluding those only applicable to heterosexual individuals, to which a suitable equivalent service must be provided - to homosexual individuals as it does to heterosexual individuals, subject to the same conditions, for the same price and of the same quality as these services are provided to heterosexual individuals (these conditions may not include the individual's sexual orientation). Such services may include (but are not limited to):
    1. Healthcare services
    2. Social services
  3. REQUIRES each member nation to provide to homosexual individuals exactly the same financial services as it provides to heterosexual individuals, subject to the same conditions under which said services are provided to heterosexual individuals (these conditions may not include the individual's sexual orientation). An example of one such financial service is a financial benefit of any sort.
  4. ORDERS all member nations to legally permit all homosexual individuals to act, think, feel and speak as they wish, subject to the same conditions to which the actions, thoughts, feelings and speech of heterosexual individuals are subject. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
2nd draft (thanks to Kenmoria for helping me improve on the 1st draft)

Protecting the Civil and Political Rights of Homosexual Couples

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexual orientation of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexual orientation,

REASONING that homosexual individuals should therefore be granted the same civil and political rights as heterosexual individuals, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of homosexual individuals,

The World Assembly

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage with another person as partners in a personal relationship.

C) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, a "homosexual individual" as a person who is sexually attracted to a person of the same sex as them.

Hereby:

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between two people of opposite sex to allow civil marriages between two people of the same sex.
    2. COMMANDS all such member nations to allow civil marriage to all same-sex couples, subject to the same conditions under which civil marriage is allowed to all opposite-sex couples. Such conditions may not, of course, include the sexual orientation of the individuals concerned.
    3. REQUIRES all member nations which provide civil marriage services for two people of opposite sex to provide civil marriage services for two people of the same sex.
    4. COMPELS all member nations to grant to all same-sex spouses every marriage right granted to opposite-sex spouses, and no more marriage rights than those.
    5. COMPELS all member nations to implement legislation regarding the termination of same-sex civil marriages of the same scope and effect as the legislation regarding the termination of opposite-sex civil marriages.
    1. MANDATES that no homosexual individual in any member nation be denied the right to partake in any political activity in which a heterosexual individual has the right to partake in that member nation, solely or in part on the basis of their sexual orientation. Such political activities may include (but are not limited to):
      1. Voting in any sort of election
      2. Taking up any sort of political office
    2. ORDERS that all homosexual individuals must be granted the right stated in 2. a. subject to the same conditions under which the right stated in 2. a. is granted to heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
    1. RULES that each member nation must provide all the same government-run services - excluding those only applicable to heterosexual individuals - to homosexual individuals as it does to heterosexual individuals, and no more such services than those. Such services may include (but are not limited to):
      1. Healthcare services
      2. Social services
    2. COMPELS all member nations to provide such services to all homosexual individuals for the same price, subject to the same conditions and of the same quality as such services are provided to all heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
    1. REQUIRES each member nation to provide to homosexual individuals all the same financial services as it provides to heterosexual individuals, and no more such services than those. An example of one such financial service is a financial benefit of any sort.
    2. COMPELS all member nations to provide such financial services to all homosexual individuals subject to the same conditions as such financial services are provided to all heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
    1. ORDERS all member nations to legally permit all homosexual individuals to act, think, feel and speak as they wish, subject to the same conditions to which the actions, thoughts, feelings and speech of heterosexual individuals are subject. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
Protecting the Civil and Political Rights of Homosexual People

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexual orientation of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexual orientation,

REASONING that homosexual individuals should therefore be granted the same civil and political rights as heterosexual individuals, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of homosexual individuals,

The World Assembly

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their legally recognised union with another person as partners in a personal relationship.

C) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, a "homosexual individual" as a person who is sexually attracted to a person of the same sex as them, or who is sexually attracted to people of both sexes.

Hereby:

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between two people of opposite sex to allow civil marriages between two people of the same sex.
    2. COMMANDS all such member nations to allow civil marriage to all same-sex couples, subject to the same conditions under which civil marriage is allowed to all opposite-sex couples. Such conditions may not, of course, include the sexual orientation of the individuals concerned.
    3. REQUIRES all member nations which provide civil marriage services for two people of opposite sex to provide civil marriage services for two people of the same sex.
    4. COMPELS all member nations to grant to all same-sex spouses every marriage right granted to opposite-sex spouses, and no more marriage rights than those.
    5. COMPELS all member nations to implement the same legislation, and no more, regarding the termination of same-sex civil marriages, as the legislation regarding the termination of opposite-sex civil marriages.
    1. MANDATES that no homosexual individual in any member nation be denied the right to partake in any political activity in which a heterosexual individual has the right to partake in that member nation, solely or in part on the basis of their sexual orientation. Such political activities may include (but are not limited to):
      1. Voting in any sort of election
      2. Taking up any sort of political office
    2. ORDERS that all homosexual individuals must be granted the right stated in 2. a. subject to the same conditions under which the right stated in 2. a. is granted to heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
    1. RULES that each member nation must provide all the same government-run services to homosexual individuals as it does to heterosexual individuals, and no more such services than those. Such services may include (but are not limited to):
      1. Healthcare services
      2. Social services
    2. COMPELS all member nations to provide such services to all homosexual individuals for the same price, subject to the same conditions and at the same quality as such services are provided to all heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
    1. REQUIRES each member nation to provide to homosexual individuals all the same financial services as it provides to heterosexual individuals, and no more such services than those. An example of one such financial service is a financial benefit of any sort.
    2. COMPELS all member nations to provide such financial services to all homosexual individuals subject to the same conditions as such financial services are provided to all heterosexual individuals. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.
    1. ORDERS all member nations to legally permit all homosexual individuals to act, think, feel and speak as they wish, subject to the same conditions to which the actions, thoughts, feelings and speech of heterosexual individuals are subject. Such conditions may not, of course, include the individual's sexual orientation.

I'm not really sure about part 5, any help on that would be very much appreciated.
This is in pre-drafting stages as I want to see how much support it has, but my idea is to make it compulsory for states to wed any homosexual couples that want to (unless heterosexual marriage is illegal in that nation too), and to grant them the same marriage rights as heterosexual couples in that state. The proposal wouldn't force religious institutions which are currently against homosexual marriage to marry homosexual couples.

So, please let me know whether or not you support it and if you have any useful advice on how to go about drafting it that would be welcome :)
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Postby Friendly Persons » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:16 am

Aleixandria wrote:Aleixandria is pleased that this proposal is at vote, and encourages all members to vote in favour.

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Postby New Bremerton » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:19 am

Maowi wrote:
Protecting the Civil Rights of Sexual and Gender Minorities

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Significant

HOLDING that the sexuality or gender of an individual does not make them inferior or superior to another individual of a differing sexuality or gender,

REASONING that individuals of all sexualities and genders should be granted the same civil and political rights, and

NOTING the lack of General Assembly legislation which specifically clarifies the civil and political rights of sexual and gender minorities,

The World Assembly:

A) DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "civil marriage" as a legally recognised union of two or more people as partners in a personal relationship, solemnised as a civil contract with or without religious ceremony.

B) FURTHER DEFINES, for the purposes of this resolution, "marriage rights" as privileges granted to an individual solely or in part as a consequence of their civil marriage.

Hereby,

    1. REQUIRES all member nations which allow civil marriages between individuals of a certain sexuality or gender to allow civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to previously passed extant World Assembly resolutions.
    2. ORDERS all member nations to provide the same civil marriage services for individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    3. COMPELS all member nations to grant the same marriage rights to civilly married individuals of all sexualities and genders.
    4. REQUIRES all member nations to apply legislation of the same scope and effect for the termination of civil marriages between individuals of all sexualities and genders.

  1. MANDATES that every member nation must grant exactly the same rights, powers, permissions and services to individuals of all sexualities and genders, subject to exactly the same qualifying conditions. Such conditions may not include the sexuality or gender of the individual(s) concerned.

  2. ORDERS all member nations to impose exactly the same sanctions or punishments on all organisations which deny any right, power, permission or service to an individual based on their sexuality or gender, as the sanctions or punishments imposed on organisations discriminating on the basis of other arbitrary, reductive criteria (such as, but not limited to, ethnicity, age and religion).
  3. MANDATES that all member nations must allow each of their citizens to choose or change their own gender, and that member nations must officially recognise and accept the individual's chosen gender.
  4. CLARIFIES that religious organizations and their internal discrimination do not fall under this resolution, and should be addressed by future legislation.


While clause 5 continues to provide religious organizations with a loophole and continued carte-blanche to discriminate against sexual and gender minorities, it also leaves the door open for such a loophole to be eliminated in subsequent resolutions. Private establishments that open their doors to the public should not be allowed to discriminate against their customers simply for who they are.

Clause 4 is also sufficiently flexible enough to allow member states to require that transgender individuals undergo psychological evaluation before being allowed to legally transition to a gender other than the one assigned at birth. In New Bremerton, sex reassignment surgery is not required, there is no age limit to legally transition, and any psychological evaluation is kept strictly confidential so as to enable trans individuals to avoid any kind of public embarrassment while at the same time preventing transgender fraud, whereby a cisgendered individual is able to fake being trans in order to break the law, thereby undermining the rights and dignity of the trans community at large. This is similar to preventing benefit fraud by those who don't qualify for certain handouts, thereby undermining the rights and dignity of poor and working-class people.

Also, if this proposal bans affirmative action, then it would only serve to reinforce our support even further. Affirmative action is just politically correct code for plain old discrimination.

We hereby lodge our vote FOR this proposal.

OOC: I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole transgender thing, but generally speaking, I consider myself to be pro-trans.
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Postby Tinfect » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:34 am

New Bremerton wrote:Also, if this proposal bans affirmative action, then it would only serve to reinforce our support even further. Affirmative action is just politically correct code for plain old discrimination.


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First of all, go actually learn what Affirmative Action is, and why it's necessary. Second, I've not seen any reason this would possibly ban it.

New Bremerton wrote:OOC: I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole transgender thing, but generally speaking, I consider myself to be pro-trans.


For the record, the requirement of psychological evaluation, can, and has, been used to pigeonhole trans people into specific interpretations of the gender binary, and to outright exclude people who don't fit neatly into predetermined sexist boxes from accessing the assistance and resources they need. The illusory threat of cis people abusing the law to do bad things is simple nonsense; if they would do that, they were going to do the bad thing anyway, and the law changes nothing, and serves merely to harm trans people.
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:09 pm

Tinfect wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:Also, if this proposal bans affirmative action, then it would only serve to reinforce our support even further. Affirmative action is just politically correct code for plain old discrimination.


OOC:
First of all, go actually learn what Affirmative Action is, and why it's necessary. Second, I've not seen any reason this would possibly ban it.

New Bremerton wrote:OOC: I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole transgender thing, but generally speaking, I consider myself to be pro-trans.


For the record, the requirement of psychological evaluation, can, and has, been used to pigeonhole trans people into specific interpretations of the gender binary, and to outright exclude people who don't fit neatly into predetermined sexist boxes from accessing the assistance and resources they need. The illusory threat of cis people abusing the law to do bad things is simple nonsense; if they would do that, they were going to do the bad thing anyway, and the law changes nothing, and serves merely to harm trans people.


Like, how the hell does pretending to be transgender fit into some criminal's master plan anyway? Unless you've got an all female team of super criminals that need to break into a men's only gentlemen's club in Soho or whatnot I am really flummoxed as to how pretending to be transgender helps a criminal.
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:15 pm

Caracasus wrote:Unless you've got an all female team of super criminals that need to break into a men's only gentlemen's club in Soho or whatnot I am really flummoxed as to how pretending to be transgender helps a criminal.

OOC: Can I use this quote in later debates as the perfect comeback? :lol:
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:16 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Caracasus wrote:Unless you've got an all female team of super criminals that need to break into a men's only gentlemen's club in Soho or whatnot I am really flummoxed as to how pretending to be transgender helps a criminal.

OOC: Can I use this quote in later debates as the perfect comeback? :lol:


Hah, sure thing!
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:24 pm

"Well, I was kinda iffy on this proposal on first glance. Then I realized it forcibly legalizes polyamory and alien marriage.

In other words, get on the hype train bitches, we're riding this into eternity!"

OOC: Seriously though, that was enough to override any concerns I may have had about other portions of it.

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Postby Doctis Rebus » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:29 pm

The role of the general assembly is to "improve the world, one resolution at a time". This is contradicted by this resolution. Although this resolution may improve the rights of a small minority of people, it does not improve the sacred right of a nation to pass its own laws regarding this issue, or any issue. The general assembly needs to acknowledge that nations are fully capable of passing their own laws which increase the rights of their citizens, without the guidance of the general assembly. Traditional manners state that one can do whatever they want, as long as it does not infringe on the ability of others to do the same, I believe it would be prudent for us to do so now.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:35 pm

Doctis Rebus wrote:The role of the general assembly is to "improve the world, one resolution at a time". This is contradicted by this resolution. Although this resolution may improve the rights of a small minority of people, it does not improve the sacred right of a nation to pass its own laws regarding this issue, or any issue. The general assembly needs to acknowledge that nations are fully capable of passing their own laws which increase the rights of their citizens, without the guidance of the general assembly. Traditional manners state that one can do whatever they want, as long as it does not infringe on the ability of others to do the same, I believe it would be prudent for us to do so now.

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Postby Vrama » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:39 pm

We are against this resolution on multiple grounds.

Sexuality and gender are both left undefined. The latter is very important considering the following:

MANDATES that all member nations must allow each of their citizens to choose or change their own gender, and that member nations must officially recognise and accept the individual's chosen gender
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With gender being undefined, a person could literally claim their gender is whatever they say it is. One of our subjects can say his gender is "Grand Poobah of the Universe" and we're supposed to accept it? I think not.

Here is a statement from one of our Region's ministers:

The resolution now brought to Vote seeks to eliminate sexual and gender discrimination, especially with regard to the right to enter legal marriages. In achieving equal marriage rights, this resolution is effective and commendable. However, the mandates of this bill go far beyond that, eliminating any such discrimination, even at the expense of the groups it purports to defend. Such broad mandates eliminate the ability of member states or organizations to, for instance, select only female staff to work in battered women's shelters, or to house male and female prisoners in separate facilities or cells. Such necessary exceptions must be recognized in any effort to guarantee these civil rights.


This resolution is a threat to the security and safety of our subjects.
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Postby Recuecn » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:41 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:"Well, I was kinda iffy on this proposal on first glance. Then I realized it forcibly legalizes polyamory and alien marriage.

Does it? I would argue it *doesn't* legalize polyamory; if the "two or more" clause in the definition of civil marriage means that all civil marriages are polyamorous, then a nation which doesn't allow polyamory could say they don't allow civil marriages, and then they're not forced to allow all genders the same access to a service (civil marriage) the state doesn't provide. And obviously, on the other hand, if the "two or more" clause means that civil marriage can either be polyamorous or not, then no one is being forced to legalize polyamory.

I would argue for the second reading, which I believe is the intended one, as otherwise it would open a large loophole. It would be nice to know if my reading is correct though, since my nation will most likely vote against any resolution legalizing polyamory.
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Postby Maowi » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:48 pm

Vrama wrote:Here is a statement from one of our Region's ministers:

The resolution now brought to Vote seeks to eliminate sexual and gender discrimination, especially with regard to the right to enter legal marriages. In achieving equal marriage rights, this resolution is effective and commendable. However, the mandates of this bill go far beyond that, eliminating any such discrimination, even at the expense of the groups it purports to defend. Such broad mandates eliminate the ability of member states or organizations to, for instance, select only female staff to work in battered women's shelters, or to house male and female prisoners in separate facilities or cells. Such necessary exceptions must be recognized in any effort to guarantee these civil rights.


This resolution is a threat to the security and safety of our subjects.


You can find my response to the battered women's shelters argument not very far back at all. And housing male and female prisoners in separate cells is not "providing different services", so long as the conditions are not worse for a certain gender.
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Postby Furry Things » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:50 pm

I can see this being controversial, but it shouldn't be. Support.

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Postby Maowi » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:52 pm

Recuecn wrote:Does it? I would argue it *doesn't* legalize polyamory; if the "two or more" clause in the definition of civil marriage means that all civil marriages are polyamorous, then a nation which doesn't allow polyamory could say they don't allow civil marriages, and then they're not forced to allow all genders the same access to a service (civil marriage) the state doesn't provide. And obviously, on the other hand, if the "two or more" clause means that civil marriage can either be polyamorous or not, then no one is being forced to legalize polyamory.

I would argue for the second reading, which I believe is the intended one, as otherwise it would open a large loophole. It would be nice to know if my reading is correct though, since my nation will most likely vote against any resolution legalizing polyamory.


OOC: I'll admit, when drafting this I didn't realise the possibly forcible legalisation of polygamy. I included the "two or more" so as not to exclude nations which allow polygamy (such as mine). However, when I was made aware of this, I thought of it as the second interpretation you mention.
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:53 pm

Are you an SJW ? You can't force my government to accept someone's "chosen gender", that's determined by genetics. Period.
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Postby Dreadton » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:54 pm

Maowi wrote:
Vrama wrote:Here is a statement from one of our Region's ministers:



This resolution is a threat to the security and safety of our subjects.


You can find my response to the battered women's shelters argument not very far back at all. And housing male and female prisoners in separate cells is not "providing different services", so long as the conditions are not worse for a certain gender.



So separate but equal? Nations have applied that in other areas of society with not nice results
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:59 pm

This was fine until I reached clause 4 which is plain ridiculous
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Postby Caracasus » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:59 pm

Dreadton wrote:
Maowi wrote:
You can find my response to the battered women's shelters argument not very far back at all. And housing male and female prisoners in separate cells is not "providing different services", so long as the conditions are not worse for a certain gender.



So separate but equal? Nations have applied that in other areas of society with not nice results


There are compelling reasons to house male and female inmates in seperate prisons. There were no compelling reasons to force black and white Americans to use different amenities. Not a good argument.
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Postby Greater Slavil » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:00 pm

The Slavilian ambassador notes that they fully support the recognition of LGBTQ individuals and permitting their right to seek civil unions with each other, but strongly notes that this should be an issue left to member nations themselves, not forcefully foisted upon them in a frankly disgusting display of government overreach.

With clause 5 opening a huge loophole, as well as the clear intent of this resolution to disregard the sovereignty of member states, Greater Slavil votes AGAINST this resolution. Greater Slavil also notes that they may seriously consider withdrawal from the WA in light of several recent proposals that also infringed on national sovereignty.

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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:03 pm

Greater Slavil wrote:The Slavilian ambassador notes that they fully support the recognition of LGBTQ individuals and permitting their right to seek civil unions with each other, but strongly notes that this should be an issue left to member nations themselves, not forcefully foisted upon them in a frankly disgusting display of government overreach.

With clause 5 opening a huge loophole, as well as the clear intent of this resolution to disregard the sovereignty of member states, Greater Slavil votes AGAINST this resolution. Greater Slavil also notes that they may seriously consider withdrawal from the WA in light of several recent proposals that also infringed on national sovereignty.

Thank you very much.
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