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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:07 pm

I would rewrite

Prohibits any individual or organization from purchasing or airing promotional advertisements for cigarettes or smokeless tobacco in any World Assembly member-state, and any individual or organization operating in a World Assembly member state from purchasing or airing said advertisements anywhere,

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Prohibits the purchase or airing of adverts for cigarettes or smokeless tobacco products,

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Postby United Massachusetts » Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:42 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Perhaps more useful would be regulations prohibiting tobacco multinationals from attempting to ride roughshod over nations attempting to impose their own tobacco regulations.

"We are not certain that our delegation has the technical expertise to effectively craft such a legislation. We should appreciate the assistance of your Delegation if you would render it."
Attempted Socialism wrote:"Any state that currently taxes sales of tobacco goods and publicly finances election campaigns, or where devolved subdivisions of government are financed by taxes on, among other things, tobacco and where said devolved subdivisions engage in lobbying, will run afoul of Clause Three. It is our understanding that capitalist states find taxation to be a reasonable way to guide citizens towards better choices. We would therefore hope that this oft-used way of capitalist societies to reduce the spread of tobacco will be exempt in Clause Three."

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:I would rewrite

Prohibits any individual or organization from purchasing or airing promotional advertisements for cigarettes or smokeless tobacco in any World Assembly member-state, and any individual or organization operating in a World Assembly member state from purchasing or airing said advertisements anywhere,

To

Prohibits the purchase or airing of adverts for cigarettes or smokeless tobacco products,

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Tinfect wrote:"The Imperium highly recommends expanding this legislation to additional similar substances," said Seretis, who had seemingly appeared from out of nowhere, "But beyond that, this legislation is acceptable to the Imperium, and you may expect our support."

"We appreciate the Imperium's support. We would like to preserve the domain of this resolution to tobacco, however, and would welcome an attempt by another Delegation to legislate on similar substances."
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Postby Kenmoria » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:22 am

“In clause 4, ‘list’ should be ‘lists’ and ‘contain’ should be ‘contains’, as you are referring to the singular packaging, rather than a plural noun. Of course, due to the capitalist nature of Kenmoria, I still oppose, but there’s no harm in helping with grammar.”
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:34 am

Kenmoria wrote:“In clause 4, ‘list’ should be ‘lists’ and ‘contain’ should be ‘contains’, as you are referring to the singular packaging, rather than a plural noun. Of course, due to the capitalist nature of Kenmoria, I still oppose, but there’s no harm in helping with grammar.”

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:08 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:“In clause 4, ‘list’ should be ‘lists’ and ‘contain’ should be ‘contains’, as you are referring to the singular packaging, rather than a plural noun. Of course, due to the capitalist nature of Kenmoria, I still oppose, but there’s no harm in helping with grammar.”

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Postby Fecaw » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:56 am

Deputy Vise hands over an annotated concise copy of the resolution to Bishop Pierce, saying, "My comments are in bold."
United Massachusetts wrote:Whereas the grave health consequences of tobacco usage have already been well-established, and need not be repeated here, I hope that you do include an explanation of the health consequences e.g. lung cancer.

Prohibits any individual or organization from purchasing or airing promotional advertisements for cigarettes or smokeless tobacco in any World Assembly member-state, and any individual or organization operating in a World Assembly member state from purchasing or airing said advertisements anywhere, I am against for free speech reasons, but would support a ban on advertising it to minors.

Prohibits any organization profiting off of the sale of tobacco products from contributing to political campaigns or otherwise engaging in lobbying activities in a World Assembly member-state, Why are these organizations worse than any other when it comes to lobbying? Some companies may sell tobacco products as a very small part of their business, but still be prevented from lobbying. "profiting from" sounds better than "profiting off".

Requires that packaging containing tobacco products, in order to be sold in a World Assembly member-state be at least thirty-percent covered in a state sanctioned health warning, that it list all ingredients of the tobacco product contained therein, and that it contain no misleading claims about the product's contents, Possibly define "misleading". Thirty percent also sounds quite extreme, although I am not aware of the normal regulations for this.
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Postby The Aligned People » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:55 pm

TAP takes issue with clause 3 due to reasons of freedom of speech. In TAP, our citizens are free to spend their money how they want and give their money away how they want (after taxes of course). This does not exclude corporations or the employees thereof. The rest of the proposal is supported.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:06 am

United Massachusetts wrote:1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution, the following terms:
  1. "tobacco product" as any product containing made in whole or part from nicotine-rich plants of the Nicotiana genus,

OOC: Just confirming that this means that this proposal does not, in fact, have anything to do with nicotine gained via any other means, like synthesis, or extraction from some other plant? If yes, then no objections as it's loopholeable to death, due to the RL-reference (not the illegal kind) restriction. :P
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:34 am

The Haven disagrees most strongly with this proposal.
It is the belief of the Havenic government that what a citizen does with his or her body is entirely said citizens issue, and that companies which break no Havenic laws should be freely able to advertise their products.
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Postby United Massachusetts » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:50 am

I am going to bump this, given the present debate on tobacco.

(NOTE: I'm on a bit of a hiatus right now, and will be back to full participation in the summer. I can still take on this project for now.)
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Postby The New Nordic Union » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:23 pm

United Massachusetts wrote:"tobacco product" as any product containing nicotine, in whole or part,


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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:01 am

OOC: So, in nations where both tobacco and cannabis are legal, these restrictions would apply to the tobacco industry but not also to the cannabis industry? Not sure that that's a good idea...
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