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Postby Ballpit2 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:53 pm

I like it! Looks good! Can’t wait to go to space! :P

Edit: I know we aren’t really gonna go to space, but one can only hope :)
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:20 pm

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Why should th WA fund one space station, to benefit one planet, when there are thousands of inhabited planets in the WA?

Well, I have two explanations:

1) It doesn't necessarily only benefit one planet, it benefits all WA members by offering a place to conduct experiments and refuel spacecraft. Because no other nation with a space program has anything like that, and the space-faring civilizations are obviously incompetent, right?
2) Why is space "the final frontier" in GAR #451? if it has already thousands of planets in WA? There have always been thousands of planets and civilizations in the WA. Unless you can figure a way to fit 10000 nations on a single planet.

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:40 pm

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:Fixed, and fixed.

Araraukar wrote:EDIT: Also, in the mandates, don't use -ing ending verbs (those generally shouldn't be used beyond the preamble).

OOC: ^That is still not fixed.

Grays Harbor wrote:There have always been thousands of planets and civilizations in the WA. Unless you can figure a way to fit 10000 nations on a single planet.

OOC: Over 25000 currently, actually. :P And lets not forget nations having tens (if not hundreds) of billions population, on the gameside accounts. Some roleplay with that number.
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:14 pm

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Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:Fixed, and fixed.

Araraukar wrote:EDIT: Also, in the mandates, don't use -ing ending verbs (those generally shouldn't be used beyond the preamble).

OOC: ^That is still not fixed.

Grays Harbor wrote:There have always been thousands of planets and civilizations in the WA. Unless you can figure a way to fit 10000 nations on a single planet.

OOC: Over 25000 currently, actually. :P And lets not forget nations having tens (if not hundreds) of billions population, on the gameside accounts. Some roleplay with that number.

Sorry, I have been getting a lot of backlash on a lot of things I am writing and am kind of frantically trying to defend my work. However, upon rereading, the points here are pretty valid, but we also have to consider that the WA, and NS on the whole is game.

Would it be better if I reworked it to be a proposal proposing multiple stations as research and refueling safe-harbours across the multiverse? Same concept, but with Space Stations to cater to multiple planets. In coincidence with your logic!

How about it?
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:38 pm

Okay, it is multi-planetary now!
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:41 am

“You still have very human-centric language in some of the preamble clauses. Also, clause 1c would involve a truly massive number of space stations. Some member nations are over a light year away from their nearest neighbour, giving them their own space station to themselves. Multiply this by the thousands of states in this situation, and one has a truly inordinate amount of stations.”
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:37 am

If there were a star just 0.9 light years away, and they had the official station, how do we get there?

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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:18 am

Kenmoria wrote:“You still have very human-centric language in some of the preamble clauses. Also, clause 1c would involve a truly massive number of space stations. Some member nations are over a light year away from their nearest neighbour, giving them their own space station to themselves. Multiply this by the thousands of states in this situation, and one has a truly inordinate amount of stations.”

Let me change it to 5 light years for good measure, that should slash the number of stations needed.

Also - fixed all mentions of "humanity" to "species of WA Member Nations"!

Imperium Anglorum wrote:If there were a star just 0.9 light years away, and they had the official station, how do we get there?

The station would most likely be created in-between the two. It is at maximum 1 light year away in this original draft, so it would probably be .45 LY away from both of you.

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The New Nordic Union wrote:Illegal for metagaming, as you mention Regions...

That doesn't mean using the word "region" is banned, right? When I use "regional" in the title, I mean it in no way other than regions of space - not gameplay regions.

Can someone explain what makes it legal and illegal?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:29 am

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:If there were a star just 0.9 light years away, and they had the official station, how do we get there?

The station would most likely be created in-between the two. It is at maximum 1 light year away in this original draft, so it would probably be .45 LY away from both of you.

How do we go 0.45 ly to your station?

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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:35 am

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:That doesn't mean using the word "region" is banned, right? When I use "regional" in the title, I mean it in no way other than regions of space - not gameplay regions.

Can someone explain what makes it legal and illegal?
(OOC: It varies based on context. For example, something saying ‘declares that all nations, and any regions they belong to, have a space station’, would be clearly illegal, as that cannot really refer to anything other than a game region. However, wording can be altered to make it clear that you are mentioning regions of space. For example, ‘interregional’ would be better as ‘international’.)
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:38 am

Kenmoria wrote:
Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:That doesn't mean using the word "region" is banned, right? When I use "regional" in the title, I mean it in no way other than regions of space - not gameplay regions.

Can someone explain what makes it legal and illegal?
(OOC: It varies based on context. For example, something saying ‘declares that all nations, and any regions they belong to, have a space station’, would be clearly illegal, as that cannot really refer to anything other than a game region. However, wording can be altered to make it clear that you are mentioning regions of space. For example, ‘interregional’ would be better as ‘international’.)


"Intersystem Space Station Project" maybe?
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:35 pm

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Don’t bump a topic that’s still on the first page or has had a post within the past week, never mind the past six hours.

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Wrapper wrote:Don’t bump a topic that’s still on the first page or has had a post within the past week, never mind the past six hours.

Oh sweet Jesus I got scared when I saw your name here.

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Postby Merni » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:28 pm

Araraukar wrote:EDIT: Also, in the mandates, don't use -ing ending verbs (those generally shouldn't be used beyond the preamble). Instead of "establishing", write "establishes".

This is still not fixed. The preamble should have -ing ending verbs, the mandates shouldn't.
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:40 pm

Merni wrote:
Araraukar wrote:EDIT: Also, in the mandates, don't use -ing ending verbs (those generally shouldn't be used beyond the preamble). Instead of "establishing", write "establishes".

This is still not fixed. The preamble should have -ing ending verbs, the mandates shouldn't.

Sweet Jesus am I confused.

Let me see...

EDIT: Okay, how are the -ings & not-ings- now?
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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:39 am

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: It varies based on context. For example, something saying ‘declares that all nations, and any regions they belong to, have a space station’, would be clearly illegal, as that cannot really refer to anything other than a game region. However, wording can be altered to make it clear that you are mentioning regions of space. For example, ‘interregional’ would be better as ‘international’.)


"Intersystem Space Station Project" maybe?

(OOC: That would be good.
Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
Merni wrote:This is still not fixed. The preamble should have -ing ending verbs, the mandates shouldn't.

Sweet Jesus am I confused.

Let me see...

EDIT: Okay, how are the -ings & not-ings- now?
They are currently correct, as all the preamble clauses have -ings and the active clauses do not.)
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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:04 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
"Intersystem Space Station Project" maybe?

(OOC: That would be good.
Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:Sweet Jesus am I confused.

Let me see...

EDIT: Okay, how are the -ings & not-ings- now?
They are currently correct, as all the preamble clauses have -ings and the active clauses do not.)


Fantastic! Is it in good condition now?

(OOC: Thanks for the continued advice :lol: )
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:38 pm

Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: It varies based on context. For example, something saying ‘declares that all nations, and any regions they belong to, have a space station’, would be clearly illegal, as that cannot really refer to anything other than a game region. However, wording can be altered to make it clear that you are mentioning regions of space. For example, ‘interregional’ would be better as ‘international’.)


"Intersystem Space Station Project" maybe?

"Program for the Intersystem Space Station."

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Postby Fecaw » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:41 pm

In 4, I might try using a different phrase at the beginning, such as "Appreciates that", to make your language less clunky.

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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:26 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
"Intersystem Space Station Project" maybe?

"Program for the Intersystem Space Station."

Of course, you would know better than me, so I will probably go with it! :)
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Postby Groot » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:41 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar wrote:
"Intersystem Space Station Project" maybe?

"Program for the Intersystem Space Station."

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Postby Nagatar Karumuttu Chettiar » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:12 pm

Groot wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Program for the Intersystem Space Station."

Groot snickers. “I am Groot,” he says, giving Ambassador Bell two twigs up.

Great! So this is ready to go! I am going to start trying to get the necessary endorsements again, and once I am settled on the name, submit it as a proposal!

EDIT: How do I make a poll on the thread for a name decision?
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Postby Pronalle » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:37 pm

Personally, I like "The Intersystem Space Stations Programme".

However, that is just my opinion.

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