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Understanding that some women across the world do not have access to personal hygiene and medicinal products of necessity for one of many reasons.

Realizing that these products are necessary for women.

Hoping that unnecessary pain will be avoided.


Therefore Nations shall provide women's personal hygiene and medicinal products listed free of charge regardless of income;

a. Tampons
b. Emergency Contraception Medications
c. (IUD) Intrauterine Device insertion

All items listed above must fit the following standards to be released on behalf of the Government funding;

a. Said product meets all safety standards and regulations.
b. Said products are produced under direct supervision of the Nation.

A consultation with a registered physician will be required by women to be provided these items without charge.

The consultation must meet all Medical and Healthcare Standards and Regulations.

In addition, the insertion of a Intrauterine Device shall be completed under direct medical supervision with a medical professional who meets Standards and Regulations.

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Edit: Original proposal withdrawn for drafting period.

Edit: Fixed some minor grammatical errors and separated Medicinal from Hygiene.

Edit: Revised and republished after not meeting quorum.

(OOC: It is a GA convention, and very heavily encouraged, to draft proposals on the forums before submission, rather than posting them after they have been submitted. This is so that players can comment on your draft and make constructive criticism. I recommend withdrawing the proposal and posting its text in the OP (opening post) so that others can give you feedback. The idea in itself is quite a good one, and hasn’t been done by any resolutions beforehand, so the proposal does have a chance of passing, but only with the proper drafting period.)

"We support the concept, ambassador, but the submitted version is very light on detail and over-burdensome. As written this forces nations to provide hygiene supplies free of charge even to those who can afford them without batting an eye. There do need to be limits, even on unmistakable social goods. We oppose in its present form, and hope you'll take the time to withdraw, improve at length, and resubmit."

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:"We support the concept, ambassador, but the submitted version is very light on detail and over-burdensome. As written this forces nations to provide hygiene supplies free of charge even to those who can afford them without batting an eye. There do need to be limits, even on unmistakable social goods. We oppose in its present form, and hope you'll take the time to withdraw, improve at length, and resubmit."

Unfortunately it's quite an issue to regulate based on income as each nation has it's own monetary values. However it is likely that a withdraw to polish will be done. Thank you for your input.

ooc: can you explain more on why this is necessary? like tampons are for women's maintencance of hygiene and that emergency contraceptives

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:ooc: can you explain more on why this is necessary? like tampons are for women's maintencance of hygiene and that emergency contraceptives

Ooc: From the research I have conducted it's horrifying that many women use unconventional and sometimes dangerous methods as to control menstruation times, there for its availability should be given right. As for emergency contraceptives, sometimes protections fails. It's a women's right whether to bear a child or not and an abortion would likely be completed anyways should the parent(s) not be in an available situation to care for a child. Therefore this is more conventional.

How about free toothpaste and floss for dental hygiene? Free deodorant? Nobody wants stand next to smelly person on the Metro. Free soap too for that matter. Free foot powder.

You may have guessed but we are very much against this. Hygiene products are not a “right”. They are a convenience.

We, the people of Taboooo, support the principle of giving free hygiene products as stated to all genders that require them.

If males were required to use such products then this would not be an issue.

We should, as civilised nations, should raise standards for all.

This measure is a good use of public money.

(OOC:The most obvious problem I can see with the current draft is the use of “I” in the fourth line, since personal pronouns are generally not permitted. This results in a violation of the branding rule.)

OOC: As a person currently having one in their body, the IUD (not UID) is normally a hormone-releasing item, and as such should be considered a medication rather than hygiene product. And certainly the insertion should be done by a medical professional trained to do so!

In other words, I'd suggest leaving medical procedures and medications (the morning-after pill probably should go in that category too) out of hygiene products things.

And anyone saying that tampons or pads aren't essential producys, should be told to manufacture their own toilet paper and be given a whole Douglas fir tree to start from. Just saying...

Though, if we're talking about hygiene products that are considered essential by anyone needing to deal with them, how about diapers? Both for babies and elderly (and of course anyone else who needs them).

Araraukar wrote:OOC: As a person currently having one in their body, the IUD (not UID) is normally a hormone-releasing item, and as such should be considered a medication rather than hygiene product. And certainly the insertion should be done by a medical professional trained to do so!

In other words, I'd suggest leaving medical procedures and medications (the morning-after pill probably should go in that category too) out of hygiene products things.

And anyone saying that tampons or pads aren't essential producys, should be told to manufacture their own toilet paper and be given a whole Douglas fir tree to start from. Just saying...

Though, if we're talking about hygiene products that are considered essential by anyone needing to deal with them, how about diapers? Both for babies and elderly (and of course anyone else who needs them).

Ooc: Thank you for your insight to that, it's clear that some re wording needs to be completed.

OOC: If we're talking about hygiene products rather than medical products & procedures, maybe Social Justice rather than Healthcare?

Bears Armed wrote:OOC: If we're talking about hygiene products rather than medical products & procedures, maybe Social Justice rather than Healthcare?

OOC: I did have some trouble finding a label to use for this one as there are multiple it could fit into, however I decided healthcare as it does include Medicinal Product(s) and portions require a Physician consultation.

If you want a lighter approach to this just have a resolution protecting these products from being taxed. Basically ban the pink tax.

All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.

We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.

Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.

We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.

Yes, so instead of forcing Nations to buy and supply stuff. Just pass a resolution to ensure prices are fair.

Quantipapa wrote:

Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.

We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.

Yes, so instead of forcing Nations to buy and supply stuff. Just pass a resolution to ensure prices are fair.

The market determines the price of goods not governments. However, given that these items can be considered necessary I would suggest as you have previously mentioned lifting taxes on such products.

Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.

We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.

The government would not be the entity supplying the products at hand. An organization under supervision of the Government to regulate standards would instead be the productive facility.

Nohtasha wrote:

Jamariche wrote:All public bathrooms within the Allied Systems supply free female hygiene products already as a nicety to visitors. However, it is not within the Allied Systems' realm to supply its citizens with personal supplies of any kind as doing so is an unneeded burden upon the Government and tax-payers of the Allied Systems as well as taking the option of choice, responsibility and consequence from the citizens of the Allied Systems.

We cannot support that potential proposal and would ask all members to see this this draft as nothing more than a frivolous fancy.

The government would not be the entity supplying the products at hand. An organization under supervision of the Government to regulate standards would instead be the productive facility.

Who contracts and pays for the organization? Governmental contractors often cost as much if not more than direct governmental control. Either way, it is a waste of tax resources which could (and should) be used for infrastructure mainentaince/improvement and goes against the tennets of personal choice, responsibility, etc.

As such the Allied Systems cannot support the measure as is. However, as the delegate of Quantipapa said a removal of so-called "pink taxes" does make sense, and such a measure can and would be supported.

Trevanyika raises her eyebrow at the proposal text. "This is a joke, yes? You haven't actually submitted this for consideration?"

Wallenburg wrote:Trevanyika raises her eyebrow at the proposal text. "This is a joke, yes? You haven't actually submitted this for consideration?"

Don't make fun of the kid. He's trying

Quantipapa wrote:If you want a lighter approach to this just have a resolution protecting these products from being taxed. Basically ban the pink tax.

OOC; That would be illegal for Contradiction, because of a clause in GA Resolution #17 which blocks the GA from meddling in nations' domestic taxation.

Wallenburg wrote:Trevanyika raises her eyebrow at the proposal text. "This is a joke, yes? You haven't actually submitted this for consideration?"

“Apparently this is the case. I strongly recommend the authoring delegation spends longer drafting, as the proposal in its current form, though legal, could do with a lot more time in these hallowed halls. As we always say, legal does not equate to good.”

Bears Armed wrote:

Quantipapa wrote:If you want a lighter approach to this just have a resolution protecting these products from being taxed. Basically ban the pink tax.

OOC; That would be illegal for Contradiction, because of a clause in GA Resolution #17 which blocks the GA from meddling in nations' domestic taxation.

Not true.

8. Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices;

Quantipapa wrote:

Bears Armed wrote:
OOC; That would be illegal for Contradiction, because of a clause in GA Resolution #17 which blocks the GA from meddling in nations' domestic taxation.

Not true.

8. Affirms the right of member nations to maintain full authority over domestic taxation policies, barring those that may include unfair discriminatory practices;

OOC
Actually, looking at the exact wording of that clause again, you might be right. Arguably it would allow introducing unfair discrimination, by removing taxation from women's hygiene products but not from men's ones as well, as well as attempts at removing unfair discrimination...