[Proposal] Repeal Reproductive Freedoms

[The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda]

Recognising abortion is a contentious topic.

Understanding that there are different arguments for each side.

Noting there is a middle ground for this issue

Concerned that the current WA resolution on abortions has no restrictions which means abortion can be performed even if the fetus is developed enough

Knowing that there are other alternatives to abortion for low income persons such as putting the child up for adoption

Arguing that everyone has the right to life

Believing that abortion should at least be restricted

Pointing Out that the WA can impose restrictions that we can agree on if we repeal this bill.

Comforting nations who are pro choice as this does not fully remove the option for abortion due to the resolution: "On Abortion"


The General Assembly, hereby repeals Reproductive Freedoms.
Link to proposal

[Separatist Peoples]

Ooc: this currently violates the Branding rule and the NatSov only rule, and isnt legal. You should look at the Rules for the GA, which is stickied at the top of the forum and linked in my signature.

[The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda]

Ooc: this currently violates the Branding rule and the NatSov only rule, and isnt legal. You should look at the Rules for the GA, which is stickied at the top of the forum and linked in my signature.

I fixed the branding rule but the NatSov rule does not apply as I am arguing that the power of it being legal or illegal is in the hands of the nation

[Separatist Peoples]

Ooc: this currently violates the Branding rule and the NatSov only rule, and isnt legal. You should look at the Rules for the GA, which is stickied at the top of the forum and linked in my signature.

I fixed the branding rule but the NatSov rule does not apply as I am arguing that the power of it being legal or illegal is in the hands of the nation

Ooc: yeah, that's the NatSov Only Rule in action.

[The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda]

I fixed the branding rule but the NatSov rule does not apply as I am arguing that the power of it being legal or illegal is in the hands of the nation

Ooc: yeah, that's the NatSov Only Rule in action.

OOC: Is this okay now?

[Separatist Peoples]

Ooc: yeah, that's the NatSov Only Rule in action.

OOC: Is this okay now?

Ooc: yes, looks like you've added enough to survive the NatSov Only rule.

[The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda]

OOC: Is this okay now?

Ooc: yes, looks like you've added enough to survive the NatSov Only rule.

OOC: Thank you

[Sukberia]

"Knowing that there are other alternatives to abortion for low income persons such as putting the child up for adoption"

"Ah yes, the good ol' Adoption tactics. It's better to allow a child to suffer trough their childhood, than to remove a bunch of cells glued together by tissue, who won't survive seconds on the outside and will be considered human, let alone a baby. Of course.

WA Embassador

Antonmestes Virka

[Chirago]

The Republic of Chirago would be willing to approve this repeal as we do not believe the WA has a right to tell nations what to do in this particular subject.

- William Travis, Chirago WA delegate

[The Philippine Islands of Luzviminda]

"Knowing that there are other alternatives to abortion for low income persons such as putting the child up for adoption"

"Ah yes, the good ol' Adoption tactics. It's better to allow a child to suffer trough their childhood, than to remove a bunch of cells glued together by tissue, who won't survive seconds on the outside and will be considered human, let alone a baby. Of course.

WA Embassador

Antonmestes Virka

Well you are killing the child without its consent which is like administering euthanasia without getting the consent of the patient

[Bears Armed]

" a bunch of cells glued together by tissue, who won't survive seconds on the outside and will be considered human, let alone a baby.

"Current GA legislation, unfortunately, forces member nations to legalize abortion even when the foetus has progressed far beyond the 'bunch of cells' stage: Right up until birth, even when the foetus would be capable of survival if delivered rather than aborted, in fact...
"... which is a detail that could usefully be included in this proposal."

Hwa Sue,
Legal Attaché,
Bears Armed Mission to the World Assembly
(and anthropomorphic male Giant Panda).

[Kenmoria]

“This is a decent proposal, but has a major problem: Reproductive Freedoms simply isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. The majority of the WA is pro-choice, and not even the most experienced delegations would be able to draft a repeal of it that has a chance of passing. Minor note, the WA isn’t just human, there are also many other species, so you may want to avoid the word ‘human’ in future.”

[New Min]

"No, no, no, our delegation will not support any attempts to revoke the right of women to abortion, and therefore we will vote against. I am very sure the WA Delegate of the People's Republic of The Communist Bloc will vote against too. In general, this proposal has no chance to pass, the WA is pro-choice."

[Arasi Luvasa]

" a bunch of cells glued together by tissue, who won't survive seconds on the outside and will be considered human, let alone a baby.

"Current GA legislation, unfortunately, forces member nations to legalize abortion even when the foetus has progressed far beyond the 'bunch of cells' stage: Right up until birth, even when the foetus would be capable of survival if delivered rather than aborted, in fact...
"... which is a detail that could usefully be included in this proposal."

Hwa Sue,
Legal Attaché,
Bears Armed Mission to the World Assembly
(and anthropomorphic male Giant Panda).

"While we would have supported this regardless, I do believe the term for when abortion can be administered should be addressed. If this falls through and we remain part of the WA, I will attempt to write up something (repeal draft and replacement proposal). Of course, I have a diffrent project that I would like to complete first."

[United Massachusetts]

"We support any attempt to repeal so-called Reproductive Freedoms."

[The Unfounded]

"Categorically. Opposed."

[Cosmopolitan borovan]

Recognising abortion is a contentious topic.

Understanding that there are different arguments for each side.

Shocked that this resolution forces nations to allow killing of fetuses even if the nation is openly against it.

Pointing out that human lives are killed through abortion

Knowing that there are other alternatives to abortion for low income persons such as putting the child up for adoption

Arguing that everyone has the right to life

Demanding a legislation that the nation should have the right to choose if it is legal or not and saving the lives of the unborm

The General Assembly, hereby repeals Reproductive Freedoms.

"Abortion is a contentious topic. Religious groups and women's rights advocates usually conflict with each other on the topic. In my personal view, I don't believe in abortion. It ends up killing life. But I am going to be taking the devil's advocate and look into the reasoning of why abortion should be legal. If a couple performs intercourse and they were not informed of using contraceptives or the contraceptives did not intended to prevent the pregnancy, they are looking at a unplanned pregnancy. If the couple are prepared to take care of the baby, it might end up being very costly and a burden. It might cause one of them to quit school and end up getting a job. It might be that they end up loving the baby. Which is here why it might be abortion is favored. There is also the fact that if someone is raped. If someone is raped, she did not choose to have a pregnancy. It happened without her intention to have a baby. So here it can be seen why the public would want abortion. But to wisely choose whether you want to keep the baby or end its life, is a burdened decision and I am not sure if I would want the state to interfere with that."

[Wallenburg]

No thanks.

[Naval Monte]

Not this again. Opposed.

[Kiravian WA Mission]

"The KWAM supports, as always, the noble effort to repeal Resolution #286. Though we are pessimistic as to the prospects of this or any other repeal for passage, the Mission will stand against the World Assembly's most abhorrent resolution until the end of time."

[Dirty Americans]

Nice try, but it's not going anywhere in this forum.

[West Phoenicia]

This is a very noble bill. West Phoenicia has strict guidelines in areas of abortion with up to 65% of West Phoenicians opposed to the slaughter of the innocents.

We oppose abortion as much as we can, as we do not support the genocide of babies which abortion promotes and which many nations gleefully support. Unfortunately while we support your bill with so many WA leaning eviliy left this bill would be opposed. Doesn't take a psychic from Selene Valley to see that. But we would gladly endorse the bill if you need the numbers.

Looking at the Reproductive Freedoms resolution the one area that you may find helps you in this noble crusade lies in this wording of said passed bill

"Member Nations to ensure protection from targeted animosity to providers and patients of the procedures covered by this resolution,"

One could argue it restricts citizens, the right to protest outside clinics that perform murder/abortions

[Kowani]

This is a very noble bill. West Phoenicia has strict guidelines in areas of abortion with up to 65% of West Phoenicians opposed to the slaughter of the innocents.

We oppose abortion as much as we can, as we do not support the genocide of babies which abortion promotes and which many nations gleefully support. Unfortunately while we support your bill with so many WA leaning eviliy left this bill would be opposed. Doesn't take a psychic from Selene Valley to see that. But we would gladly endorse the bill if you need the numbers.

Looking at the Reproductive Freedoms resolution the one area that you may find helps you in this noble crusade lies in this wording of said passed bill

"Member Nations to ensure protection from targeted animosity to providers and patients of the procedures covered by this resolution,"

One could argue it restricts citizens, the right to protest outside clinics that perform murder/abortions

I would personally argue that doesn't restrict the right to protest, but rather prevents threatening those who work/use said clinics with actual, bodily harm. Or looking at it another way,it requires Member Nations to provide police to prevent protests from turning into lynch mobs. Nowhere does it actually say "Citizens cannot protest outside abortion clinics." Most public protests have some kind of police presence to prevent riots. This is basically just saying to pro-life governments that they can't just hold back their police forces to prevent an "out-of-control" mob from bursting in the front door and killing everybody inside.

Also, the "abortion is murder" argument isn't going to hold much water with those who support a woman's choice. Nobody is actually suggesting that abortion is intrinsically good, or that the death of a fetus is something to celebrate. We just hold the right of a woman to do what she wants to her body higher than that of something that still isn't a person" There's a very good quote for this dilemma: "Just because I am pro-choice does not mean I am pro-abortion. It means that I understand that what you choose to do with your body is none of my damn business, and I will always support your right to choose."

[West Phoenicia]

This is a very noble bill. West Phoenicia has strict guidelines in areas of abortion with up to 65% of West Phoenicians opposed to the slaughter of the innocents.

We oppose abortion as much as we can, as we do not support the genocide of babies which abortion promotes and which many nations gleefully support. Unfortunately while we support your bill with so many WA leaning eviliy left this bill would be opposed. Doesn't take a psychic from Selene Valley to see that. But we would gladly endorse the bill if you need the numbers.

Looking at the Reproductive Freedoms resolution the one area that you may find helps you in this noble crusade lies in this wording of said passed bill

"Member Nations to ensure protection from targeted animosity to providers and patients of the procedures covered by this resolution,"

One could argue it restricts citizens, the right to protest outside clinics that perform murder/abortions

I would personally argue that doesn't restrict the right to protest, but rather prevents threatening those who work/use said clinics with actual, bodily harm. Or looking at it another way,it requires Member Nations to provide police to prevent protests from turning into lynch mobs. Nowhere does it actually say "Citizens cannot protest outside abortion clinics." Most public protests have some kind of police presence to prevent riots. This is basically just saying to pro-life governments that they can't just hold back their police forces to prevent an "out-of-control" mob from bursting in the front door and killing everybody inside.

Also, the "abortion is murder" argument isn't going to hold much water with those who support a woman's choice. Nobody is actually suggesting that abortion is intrinsically good, or that the death of a fetus is something to celebrate. We just hold the right of a woman to do what she wants to her body higher than that of something that still isn't a person" There's a very good quote for this dilemma: "Just because I am pro-choice does not mean I am pro-abortion. It means that I understand that what you choose to do with your body is none of my damn business, and I will always support your right to choose."

That's nice. But the way the world is now there are organizations that boast and women who do boast and brag about tbeir abortions. And your still isnt a person argument falls flat when many pro-abortionists want to push the abortion limit all the way to the delivery date. Or are you suggesting until it comes out of a womb, its not a living being.


"Member Nations to ensure protection from targeted animosity to providers and patients of the procedures covered by this resolution,"

Many people would disagree. Alot would argue that a pro-life person protesting outside a death clinic is showing animosoty. So you can argue your viewpoint but with such a clause written into the bill, one could argue my viewpoint.
Someone could argue that having the pro life members there equates to mental abuse on the woman going in to murder/terminate the life inside her. This is not a black and white issue. Your opinion is no more important than mine abassador :-)

[Arasi Luvasa]

That's nice. But the way the world is now there are organizations that boast and women who do boast and brag about tbeir abortions. And your still isnt a person argument falls flat when many pro-abortionists want to push the abortion limit all the way to the delivery date. Or are you suggesting until it comes out of a womb, its not a living being.


"Member Nations to ensure protection from targeted animosity to providers and patients of the procedures covered by this resolution,"

Many people would disagree. Alot would argue that a pro-life person protesting outside a death clinic is showing animosoty. So you can argue your viewpoint but with such a clause written into the bill, one could argue my viewpoint.
Someone could argue that having the pro life members there equates to mental abuse on the woman going in to murder/terminate the life inside her. This is not a black and white issue. Your opinion is no more important than mine abassador :-)

May I point you to this post

"Current GA legislation, unfortunately, forces member nations to legalize abortion even when the foetus has progressed far beyond the 'bunch of cells' stage: Right up until birth, even when the foetus would be capable of survival if delivered rather than aborted, in fact...
"... which is a detail that could usefully be included in this proposal."

Hwa Sue,
Legal Attaché,
Bears Armed Mission to the World Assembly
(and anthropomorphic male Giant Panda).