[REPLACEMENT/CLOSED] Regulation of Capital Punishment

[Agarntrop]

Regulation Of Capital Punishment

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Category: Human Rights| Strength: Significant| Proposed by: Agarntrop

Recognising the frequency of miscarriages of justice which can result in the execution of innocents, which results in the deaths of human beings which have done nothing wrong resulting in utter tragedy for the friends and family of the person executed.

Affirming that solitary confinement and lifelong imprisonment can often be a much psychologically harsher punishment for heinous crimes than the death penalty.

Acknowledging that in many nations, the death penalty is often given out to ethnic minorities more often whereas life imprisonment is given to the ethnic majority more often.

Noticing that independent nations should reserve the right to allow the death penalty in extreme circumstances.


With the above pledges recognised, and with the consent of the world assembly's members and delegates, hereby:

1. Impose a world-assembly wide ban on the death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

2. Establishes the IDPTC (International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre), which all people sentenced to death in their home WA nation have the right to appeal their death sentences in.

3. Mandates that the IDPTC will be made up of 6 left wing judges and 6 right wing judges, ensuring complete fairness and no bias when it comes to appeals.

Regulation Of Capital Punishment

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Category: Human Rights| Strength: Significant| Proposed by: Agarntrop

Recognising the frequency of miscarriages of justice which can result in the execution of innocents, which results in the deaths of human beings which have done nothing wrong resulting in utter tragedy for the friends and family of the person executed.

Affirming that solitary confinement and lifelong imprisonment can often be a much psychologically harsher punishment for heinous crimes than the death penalty.

Acknowledging that in many nations, the death penalty is often given out to ethnic minorities more often whereas life imprisonment is given to the ethnic majority more often.

Noticing that independent nations should reserve the right to allow the death penalty in extreme circumstances.

With the above pledges recognised, and with the consent of the world assembly's members and delegates, hereby:

1. Impose a world-assembly wide ban on the death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

2. Establishes the IDPTC (International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre), which all people sentenced to death in their home WA nation have the right to appeal their death sentences in.

Regulation Of Capital Punishment

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Category: Human Rights| Strength: Significant| Proposed by: Agarntrop

Recognising the frequency of miscarriages of justice which can result in the execution of innocents, which results in the deaths of human beings which have done nothing wrong resulting in utter tragedy for the friends and family of the person executed.

Affirming that solitary confinement and lifelong imprisonment can often be a much psychologically harsher punishment for heinous crimes than the death penalty.

Acknowledging that in many nations, the death penalty is often given out to ethnic minorities more often whereas life imprisonment is given to the ethnic majority more often.

Arguing that the execution of minors is morally wrong and ought to be outlawed.

Noticing that independent nations should reserve the right to allow the death penalty in extreme circumstances.

With the above pledges recognised, and with the consent of the world assembly's members and delegates, hereby:

1. Ban the use of death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

2. Ban the death penalty for minors under the age of 21 and persons with mental health issues and/or personality disorders.

3. Establish the IDPTC (International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre), which all people sentenced to death in their home WA nation have the right to appeal their death sentences.

Regulation Of Capital Punishment

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Category: Human Rights| Strength: Significant| Proposed by: Agarntrop

Recognising the frequency of miscarriages of justice which can result in the execution of innocents, which results in the deaths of human beings which have done nothing wrong resulting in utter tragedy for the friends and family of the person executed.It is certainly very rare that sentenced criminals are being executed immediately. In most cases, they are being given deadline, in this time anyone can stop the execution, if the accused person's innocence is revealed.

Affirming that solitary confinement and lifelong imprisonment can often be a much psychologically harsher punishment for heinous crimes than the death penalty.

Acknowledging that in many nations, the death penalty is often given out to ethnic minorities more often whereas life imprisonment is given to the ethnic majority more often. Give me facts and arguments which can solidify your statement. That's a heavy accusation right there and if you can't prove that it is true, then you should just delete it.

Arguing that the execution of minors is morally wrong and ought to be outlawed.

Noticing that independent nations should reserve the right to allow the death penalty in extreme circumstances.

With the above pledges recognised, and with the consent of the world assembly's members and delegates, hereby:

1. Bans the use of death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

2. Bans the death penalty for minors under the age of legal majority in their nation and persons with mental health issues and/or personality disorders.Let me educate everyone in this case, there are 10 various personality disorders: Paranoia, Narcissism, Schizoid, schizotypal, borderline, histrionic, dependent, obssesive-complusive, antisocial and avoidant. While I get why we can spare people who have paranoid personality disorder or schizoid, antisocial, why should we spare narcissistic people. Or dependent people. You should edit this clause.

3. Establishes the IDPTC (International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre), which all people sentenced to death in their home WA nation have the right to appeal their death sentences.

I agree with your clause 2 argument and your ethnicities argument, but apart from that, I don't share your concerns about the misscariage of justice argument, as in most cases innocents innocency is not found out before execution.

[Agarntrop]

Any more huge problems which haven't been sorted or dismissed?

[Wallenburg]

Recognising the frequency of miscarriages of justice which can result in the execution of innocents, which results in the deaths of human beings which have done nothing wrong resulting in utter tragedy for the friends and family of the person executed.

"Your racist, anthropocentric language is not appreciated. 'Sapient individuals', if you must, although I would suggest a total rework of this clause to avoid repetition:

Recognising the miscarriages of justice which can result in the tragic execution of innocents,

"Of course, I must point out that this clause makes little sense, since your proposal does nothing to reduce miscarriages of justice."

Affirming that solitary confinement and lifelong imprisonment can often be a much psychologically harsher punishment for heinous crimes than the death penalty.

"That torture might be considered a worse fate than execution is not an argument for the regulation of execution."

Arguing that in many nations, the death penalty is often given out to ethnic minorities more often whereas life imprisonment is given to the ethnic majority more often.

"In any state that has institutionalized racism in its criminal justice system, marginalized ethnicities will be convicted and sentenced more frequently across the board. This clause also has nothing to do with the active clauses, since your proposal does nothing about racism in criminal trials."

Further Arguing that the execution of minors is morally wrong and ought to be outlawed.

"I imagine many member states would disagree."

Noticing that independent nations should reserve the right to allow the death penalty in extreme circumstances.

"If you believe that member states should retain such powers, why have you not put forward any clause guaranteeing them that power?"

With the above pledges recognised, and with the consent of the world assembly's members and delegates, hereby:

"What herebies?"

1. Bans the use of death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

"Treason in peacetime is no less egregious. Exclude that as well. Also, it should be 'for', not 'from'."

2. Bans the death penalty for minors under the age of legal majority in their nation and persons with mental health issues.

"Depression is a mental health issue. Narcissism is a mental health issue. Why are people experiencing these issues protected from execution?"

3. Establishes the IDPTC (International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre), which all people sentenced to death in their home WA nation have the right to appeal their death sentences.[/align]

"What is this International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre? And why are you tasking a World Assembly committee with handing out death sentences?"

[Separatist Peoples]

2. Establishes the IDPTC (International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre), which all people sentenced to death in their home WA nation have the right to appeal their death sentences in.

"Change this to:

2. Establishes the Interantional Death Penalty Roulette Centre, which all people have the right to appeal their death sentences in via roulette wheel spin.

"Otherwise, opposed."

[Lord Dominator]

"Really, the centering alone is enough to oppose, which I do. Of course, the non-complete death penalty ban is another, but priorities here people."

[Imperium Anglorum]

Change this:

1. Bans the use of death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

To this:

1. Bans the use of death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

Otherwise, opposed.

[Linux and the X]

Ban the use of death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

So, in the future, the GA could come back and ban the death penalty in cases of rape, murder, and high treason, no?

That would be our interpretation as well.

Let it never be said that there's nothing we agree on.

[Agarntrop]

"People, people. This is a compromise! Stupid pro and anti death penalty hardliners."

[Dawn Kingdom]

"People, people. This is a compromise! Stupid pro and anti death penalty hardliners."

I am all for legalizing death penatly, but regulation to avoid torturing ways of executions is good idea. This proposal needs work, but I like the idea.

[Agarntrop]

"People, people. This is a compromise! Stupid pro and anti death penalty hardliners."

I am all for legalizing death penatly, but regulation to avoid torturing ways of executions is good idea. This proposal needs work, but I like the idea.

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[Lord Dominator]

"People, people. This is a compromise! Stupid pro and anti death penalty hardliners."

"Strangely, insulting the voters and contributors doesn't tend to endear you to them. Weird, that."

[Agarntrop]

"People, people. This is a compromise! Stupid pro and anti death penalty hardliners."

"Strangely, insulting the voters and contributors doesn't tend to endear you to them. Weird, that."

What I'm trying to say is that we'll never have an adequate solution to the capital punishment problem unless nations on both sides agree to compromise!

[Imperium Anglorum]

We will ver have an adequate solution to the slavery problem unless people compromise! So instead of lifetime slavery, we will just do 60 year slavery!

[Lord Dominator]

"Strangely, insulting the voters and contributors doesn't tend to endear you to them. Weird, that."

What I'm trying to say is that we'll never have an adequate solution to the capital punishment problem unless nations on both sides agree to compromise!

"We only need a compromise when we don't have a majority. Which we do."

[Ru-]

What I'm trying to say is that we'll never have an adequate solution to the capital punishment problem unless nations on both sides agree to compromise!

"We only need a compromise when we don't have a majority. Which we do."

This exact attitude is the fundamental problem with the WA today. This is supposed to be a world assembly. compromise within reason encourages compliance and cooperation from a wider majority of our memberbase and creates more worldwide respect for the institution as a whole and it's authority.

OOC: and more importantly, encourages actual GA RP participation, rather then nations just keeping WA puppets, ignoring the GA for thier RP and only staying in the WA for thier region's sake, or just leaving the WA outright. I'm sick of seeing nations pushed out of the RP side because of this attitude. People are just throwing thier hands up and giving up over the state of things and I'm not sure that's very healthy for good world assembly RP

[Wallenburg]

I don't get the obsessive worship of comprimise. Comprimise is everyone agreeing to something they don't want. If a group can actually get what they want, they have no reason to compromise.

[Imperium Anglorum]

It seems that you are mostly worried about losing. I have absolutely no confidence that if there were a World Assembly majority in favour of total bans on abortion and total legalisation of capital punishment (however philosophically inconsistent that is), they would impose that upon the rest of the Assembly. Certainly, in the past, 100 years ago, this would have been the case.

It is not the case today. We have regulations on certain things because there exist relatively solid and cohesive majorities supporting them. This is a political simulator, not a simulator for the golden mean fallacy.

[Lord Dominator]

"We only need a compromise when we don't have a majority. Which we do."

This exact attitude is the fundamental problem with the WA today. This is supposed to be a world assembly. compromise within reason encourages compliance and cooperation from a wider majority of our memberbase and creates more worldwide respect for the institution as a whole and it's authority.

"You're missing the point here ambassador. We have a majority. We have no reason to compromise to 'include' a greater portion of the memberbase when we have that. That is the the current agreement of the world, whether you like it or not."

[Agarntrop]

Slavery is different. The vast majority of countries in NS have abolished slavery, yet their policies on Capital Punishment are still very diverse.

[Xanthal]

Xanthal supported the repeal mainly for the reason that we oppose a partial ban on judicial executions based upon the nature of the criminal's offense. This delegation considers such a measure to be a false compromise which harms the equitable disbursement of justice. I suggest the WA focus on improving the judicial framework of its members to minimize false convictions and shift away from punitive systems of sentencing. In the meantime, our first preference is no ban at all and our second preference is a complete ban. Anything in-between cannot receive Xanthalian support.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

We will ver have an adequate solution to the slavery problem unless people compromise! So instead of lifetime slavery, we will just do 60 year slavery!

Of course, the Havenic position is that a ban on citizens owning non-citizens is completely unjustifiable and unnecessary.

[Imperium Anglorum]

We will ver have an adequate solution to the slavery problem unless people compromise! So instead of lifetime slavery, we will just do 60 year slavery!

Of course, the Havenic position is that a ban on citizens owning non-citizens is completely unjustifiable and unnecessary.

Yea, so "compromise" with slavery for 60 years.

[Uan aa Boa]

1. Bans the use of death penalty on all offences except from rape, murder or high treason in wartime.

The death penalty is used for offences, not on them.

2. Bans the death penalty for minors under the age of legal majority in their nation and persons with mental health issues.

As opposed to minors over the age of majority? More importantly, what type and severity of mental health issue? If an offender's health issue can't be linked to the offence then why should they arbitrarily be treated differently by the law? How will we make these distinctions? (Hint - ban capital punishment and then we won't have to.)

3. Establishes the IDPTC (International Death Penalty Tribunal Centre), which all people sentenced to death in their home WA nation have the right to appeal their death sentences.

How is this body to decide whether to uphold or reject an appeal? Is it a question of deciding the soundness of the conviction in the legal system of the particular nation, and if so how is the IDPTC expected to be have expertise in so many different systems? Or will it use some other standard, and if so what? Or just decide whether it thinks the sentence seems fair depending on what mood its members are in that day?

Compromise to accommodate those backwater nations that insist on executing people is one thing, but in creating this WA body you are saying that the WA may potentially be called on to approve, and hence pass up the opportunity to prevent, any execution in a WA nation. That goes beyond tolerating such barbaric practices and amounts to active complicity with them.

Also, as it stands, this clause is not quite an English sentence.

Implacably opposed.

[Xanthal]

Compromise to accommodate those backwater nations that insist on executing people is one thing...

Woah there. If we start name-calling now, how will we lower the debate once a replacement actually gets to a vote?

[Lord Dominator]

Compromise to accommodate those backwater nations that insist on executing people is one thing...

Woah there. If we start name-calling now, how will we lower the debate once a replacement actually gets to a vote?

"With more name-calling?"