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(Draft) Animal euthanasia act

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The United Plethorate of Cascadia
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(Draft) Animal euthanasia act

Postby The United Plethorate of Cascadia » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:04 pm

Category: Moral decency
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Defining An Animal as a non-human mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian

Defining euthanasia as the purposeful killing of an animal for reasons other than harvesting of flesh, or for reasons of self-defense or defense of others;

Acknowledging that In many nations, Animals can be euthanized for attacking humans who have signifigantly provoked them, and/or they can be euthanized legally on an owner’s command, even if a veterinarian deems it unnecessary, this Resolution Commands the following:

1. Natural instincts (e.g. protection of young) shall not be grounds for euthanasia of an animal. If an animal is endangering human lives as a result of natural instincts, non-lethal methods must be used.

2. An animal that has suffered animal cruelty as defined by law, shall not be euthanized for attacking the person(s) that have/has abused that animal.

3.In regards to euthanasia for humane reasons, A minimum of two certified veterinarians must give written proof, that in their professional opinion, euthanasia is the most humane option, and that no other treatment options are available.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:11 pm

The United Plethorate of Cascadia wrote:2. An animal that has suffered animal cruelty as defined by law, shall not be impounded or euthanized

So, no matter how necessary animal control may be, an animal must be left to attack any person it feels like attacking if anyone has ever mistreated it?
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Postby Kenmoria » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:35 am

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The United Plethorate of Cascadia wrote:Defining euthanasia as the purposeful killing of an animal for reasons other than harvesting of flesh, I find this definition overly broad, in that it includes recreational hunting and fly swatting, since flies are scientifically classed as animals.
Acknowledging that In many nations, Animals can be euthanized for attacking humans who have signifigantly provoked them, and/or they can be euthanized legally on an owner’s command, even if a veterinarian deems it unnecessary, this Resolution Commands the following: You should have a line break between all of your clauses.
1. Natural instincts (e.g. protection of young) shall not be grounds for euthanasia of an animal Under your definition, that means a lion that attacks a tour bus based on its instinct of hunger cannot he killed in defence of multiple individuals. I find that should be changed.
2. An animal that has suffered animal cruelty as defined by law, shall not be impounded or euthanized Even if said animal was then suffering from a horrific, chronic disorder that caused it daily pain?
3. A minimum of two certified veterinarians must give written proof, that in their professional opinion, euthanasia is the most humane option, and that no other treatment options are available This is actually quite good idea, but requires finishing punctuation.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:26 am

The United Plethorate of Cascadia wrote:2. An animal that has suffered animal cruelty as defined by law, shall not be impounded or euthanized

OOC: So even if the animal had been horrifically injured and maimed by years of animal cruelty, and the animal has a continued existence of nothing but suffering and pain, then the animal cannot be euthanized?
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:47 am

"So a predator that starts taking peopleas its prey can not be killed? Wait, this would even require consent from two veterinarians before killing a flea or louse?!?
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Postby Essu Beti » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:36 am

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((OOC: Not to mention that clause 3 means you need two veterinarians to euthanize a pet with a terminal, agonizing illness. Losing a pet is traumatizing enough as is, and you wanna add more to it?))
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*UPDATED Animal euthanasia act (Draft)

Postby The United Plethorate of Cascadia » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:33 pm

Category: Moral decency
Strength: Mild

Defining An Animal as a non-human mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian

Defining euthanasia as the purposeful killing of an animal for reasons other than harvesting of flesh, or for reasons of self-defense or defense of others;

Acknowledging that In many nations, Animals can be euthanized for attacking humans who have signifigantly provoked them, and/or they can be euthanized legally on an owner’s command, even if a veterinarian deems it unnecessary, this Resolution Commands the following:

1. Natural instincts (e.g. protection of young) shall not be grounds for euthanasia of an animal. If an animal is endangering human lives as a result of natural instincts, non-lethal methods must be used.

2. An animal that has suffered animal cruelty as defined by law, shall not be euthanized for attacking the person(s) that have/has abused that animal.

3.In regards to euthanasia for humane reasons, A minimum of two certified veterinarians must give written proof, that in their professional opinion, euthanasia is the most humane option, and that no other treatment options are available.

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Postby New Min » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:53 pm

You should write a preamble. Also, the defining clauses are operative and should therefore be placed with the other clauses you have currently numbered.
Also, you use random capital letters in the proposal, so please fix that. Only the first letter of a sentence and 'I' should be written with a capital, and as you really can't use 'I' in a proposal, you just have the first letter of a sentence left.

In general, the proposal isn't that good, but I will be able to give more advice if I get to my PC.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:04 pm

The United Plethorate of Cascadia wrote:*UPDATED Animal euthanasia act (Draft)

One thread per proposal, please. Spoiler earlier drafts and put your new draft in the opening post.

Threads merged.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:25 pm

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The United Plethorate of Cascadia wrote:Defining An Animal as a non-human mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian

Watch out, there are non-human sentient and sapient species in the World Assembly. It would mean that much of this would clash with previous WA Resolutions regarding the death penalty...

The United Plethorate of Cascadia wrote:If an animal is endangering human lives as a result of natural instincts, non-lethal methods must be used.

If a bear is attacking me, having my hands tied by being forced to use non-lethal methods will endanger my life...
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:39 pm

The United Plethorate of Cascadia wrote:Defining An Animal as a non-human mammal, bird, reptile, or amphibian

"Your racism is astounding," says Ogenbond, who while hominoid, is clearly not a member of the species Homo sapiens. "Also, you forgot fish and arthropods."
1. Natural instincts (e.g. protection of young) shall not be grounds for euthanasia of an animal. If an animal is endangering human lives as a result of natural instincts, non-lethal methods must be used.

"Oftentimes, non-lethal methods are incapable of neutralizing a dangerous animal."
2. An animal that has suffered animal cruelty as defined by law, shall not be euthanized for attacking the person(s) that have/has abused that animal.

3.In regards to euthanasia for humane reasons, A minimum of two certified veterinarians must give written proof, that in their professional opinion, euthanasia is the most humane option, and that no other treatment options are available.

"The problems with these clauses remain."
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Postby New Min » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:18 pm

OOC: He has submitted it already...
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:54 pm

Unfortunate. Against.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:11 am

New Min wrote:OOC: He has submitted it already...

OOC: ...and it continues. Against, as this still has unaddressed flaws.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:17 am

I think there's a more serious problem in that euthanasia of animals in shelters is common practice, mostly due to the fact that it is impossible to feed and care for all of them due to a lack of resources, where the alternative is simply returning them to the streets.

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