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[DRAFT] Regulation of 3D Printed Firearms Act

Postby Huffingshire » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:18 am

The World Assembly,

Noting how guns and other firearms can end lives and cause mortal pain,
Observing that there have been successful efforts into regulating these dangerous weapons,

Seeing how newly made Artificially Fabricated guns, usually printed from "3D printers" cause a risk to gun safety as a whole, due to the lack of expense and required material,
Observing that these new, artificial guns, which can be produced easily and quickly without expense, pose a risk to worldwide safety as a whole,

Determined to preserving the safety and well-being of every person in this world,

Hereby,

For consumer and personal safety:

I: Enacts that all "3D Printed" Firearm Templates and Weapons be subject to regulation and a safety background check before sent to the consumer,

II: Enacts that all Artificially made Firearms be only sold from trusted sellers, who will perform mandatory background checks upon every purchase,

III: Enacts that all Airports begin a mandatory search in their baggage check, noting on how artificial firearms cannot be detected under conventional metal detectors,

IV: Enacts that all Artificially made weapons when produced from commercial companies and enterprises, be subject to a testing of firearm safety, to prove that they
will then be ready for consumers to use and handle, and, for the continued safety of the consumer when using the firearm, must be printed from high quality resin,

For Commercial Regulation and safety:

V: That all Artificially made firearms be sustained and regulated to a fire rate of no more than 30 rounds a minute,

VI: That all printed guns be marked with a mandatory, universal symbol, which will identify printed firearms,

VII: That 3D gun templates, downloadable online, require the downloadee to state a reasonable amount of identification so that firearms can be tracked and monitored to a significant degree,

Finishing,
VIII: That all laws regarding firearms and their use apply to this law just as this law applies to them.

Noting, again, that all people in this wide world deserve adequate safety, just as all gun owners require adequate freedoms for the choice and use of their guns,

The World Assembly does hereby propose The Regulation of 3D Printed Firearms Act.
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Postby Huffingshire » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:22 am

I would really appreciate suggestions and criticisms to the bill - I checked, and there does not seem to be any other bills like this out there.

Thanks for reading!

PS: THIS IS NOT A GUN CONTROL DEBATE. REPEAT. THIS IS. NOT A GUN CONTROL DEBATE THREAD. THANK YOU.
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Postby Zone 71 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 am

Category? Strength? Also, while this certainly is a great start to a proposal, I don't recognize 3D printed firearms as such an international issue, unless you were to focus on symptoms of 3D printed weaponry like international trade or the like - issues that could detrimentally affect international affairs, with dangers that must be handled with WA legislation. However, all I see in the proposed legislation is a series of gun control and gun safety rules and regulations. And I do not see any reason why this sort of legislation cannot be left up to the discretion of the individual member nations. While it's unfair to say that I am opposed to a first draft, I am personally against any intrusive attempt by the WA to regulate national issues that could and should be left up to the individual nations' discretion. But regardless of my personal opinions, I wish you the best on your proposal. Good luck.
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Postby Aclion » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:11 am

1, 2, 4, 5, 6 and 7 contradict clause 5 of Responsibility In Transferring Arms

Also most of these are easily bypassed by anyone with a 3d printer, except 3, which is simply impractical
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Postby South Artheria » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:19 am

Time to break out the GA Bill Editor 3000 folks. Edits and comments in bold.
Huffingshire wrote:The World Assembly,

Noting how guns and other firearms can end lives and cause mortal pain,
Observing that there have been successful efforts into regulating these dangerous weapons, Where?

Seeing how newly made Artificially Fabricated guns, usually printed from "3D printers" cause a risk to gun safety as a whole, due to the lack of expense and required material,
Observing that these new, artificial guns, which can be produced easily and quickly without expense, pose a risk to worldwide safety as a whole,

Determined to preserving the safety and well-being of every person in this world,

Hereby,

For consumer and personal safety:

I: Enacts that all "3D Printed" Firearm Templates and Weapons be subject to regulation and a safety background check before sent to the consumer,

II: Enacts that all Artificially made Firearms be only sold from trusted sellers, who will perform mandatory background checks upon every purchase,

III: Enacts that all Airports begin a mandatory search in their baggage check, noting on how artificial firearms cannot be detected under conventional metal detectors, Every single bag, one by one. Ineffective and one of the largest invasions of privacy I’ve seen in a bill like this for a while. If there could be a reasonable replacement for this, great.

IV: Enacts that all Artificially made weapons when produced from commercial companies and enterprises, be subject to a testing of firearm safety, to prove that they
will then be ready for consumers to use and handle, and, for the continued safety of the consumer when using the firearm, must be printed from high quality resin,

For Commercial Regulation and safety:

V: That all Artificially made firearms be sustained and regulated to a fire rate of no more than 30 rounds a minute,

VI: That all printed guns be marked with a mandatory, universal symbol, which will identify printed firearms, What type of symbol? A star? A couch? A chicken?

VII: That 3D gun templates, downloadable online, require the downloadee to state a reasonable amount of identification so that firearms can be tracked and monitored to a significant degree,

Finishing,
VIII: That all laws regarding firearms and their use apply to this law just as this law applies to them.

Noting, again, that all people in this wide world deserve adequate safety, just as all gun owners require adequate freedoms for the choice and use of their guns,

The World Assembly does hereby propose enact The Regulation of 3D Printed Firearms Act.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:28 am

"Beyond the illegal nature of the draft, I don't see why we should place more restrictions on a firearm manufactured in a particular way than we do on firearms manufactured in a traditional way. Opposed."

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:03 pm

I would venture that the overwhelmingly vast majority of 3D printed "guns" are actually props used for TV/Movie/Theater productions, reenactors, and cosplayers. There is also considerably more to making a functional weapon than just printing it out as well. This is nothing more than a panic-induced , ill informed "feelgood" proposal so a few people can pat themselves on the back at how they "did something".
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Postby Snowman » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:13 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:I would venture that the overwhelmingly vast majority of 3D printed "guns" are actually props used for TV/Movie/Theater productions, reenactors, and cosplayers. There is also considerably more to making a functional weapon than just printing it out as well. This is nothing more than a panic-induced , ill informed "feelgood" proposal so a few people can pat themselves on the back at how they "did something".

Agreed. Let's go.

How does a 3D printed gun cost no expense or less material than a traditional fire arm?
I. I think this infers the document undergoes a background check, not the buyer. Reword.

II. Again, the background check. Is it the seller's responsibility to check the safety of its buyers, or the government? The government I believe should do the checks, the seller just sends word along.

III. Nope for reasons mentioned

IV. If a company wants to make what I consider inferior weaponary, well I guess free will. Also limiting material to resin. I know some printers can use metal, don't know if guns can be made from them to be honest.(checked, they can, just really expensive) Also, this is dealing with enterprises, so shouldn't it be below the next line?

V. Semi-automatic 3D printed guns? Sounds cool.

VI. Sounds useless. What is the point? If you fear them using for crime, what does a symbol do to prevent crime?
Also it is 3D printed, almost always looks like like it.

VII. Downloaded? Consumer? Use the same term throughout. Wouldn't this fall under a background check?

VIII. I must say English is one of my toughest classes. Do not understand.

Overall, I would support 3D printed gun regulations, however, I wonder what besides that material restriction would be different from all forms of homemade guns.

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Postby Liberimery » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:08 pm

The simple solution of banning weapons made without metal parts or made to defeat metal detectors is a simpler solution than an unwieldy ban of a practice that is by and large difficult to track and regulate. It is my understanding that by all other metrics plastic firearms are inferior to their metallic counterparts. Additionally, the production of home made metallic fire arms is cheaper and more reliable than 3D printing one. The only advantage is now firearms can be smuggled past metal detectors. Require that a legal gun must have a metallic firing pin, and then we have a reliable way to prevent these guns from entering harden spaces. Beyond that, I cannot see how a restriction on manufacture covers violations not already covered by the law.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:23 pm

Liberimery wrote:The simple solution of banning weapons made without metal parts or made to defeat metal detectors is a simpler solution than an unwieldy ban of a practice that is by and large difficult to track and regulate. It is my understanding that by all other metrics plastic firearms are inferior to their metallic counterparts. Additionally, the production of home made metallic fire arms is cheaper and more reliable than 3D printing one. The only advantage is now firearms can be smuggled past metal detectors. Require that a legal gun must have a metallic firing pin, and then we have a reliable way to prevent these guns from entering harden spaces. Beyond that, I cannot see how a restriction on manufacture covers violations not already covered by the law.

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Postby Xelsis » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:27 pm

"Artificially made" firearms, Ambassador? Without a definition, one wonders what other category there might be. To the best knowledge of our people, at the least, firearms do not grow freely in nature or reproduce after their own kind."
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Postby Aclion » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:09 am

Xelsis wrote:"Artificially made" firearms, Ambassador? Without a definition, one wonders what other category there might be. To the best knowledge of our people, at the least, firearms do not grow freely in nature or reproduce after their own kind."

I could make the argument that volcanoes are firearms.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:27 am

Aclion wrote:
Xelsis wrote:"Artificially made" firearms, Ambassador? Without a definition, one wonders what other category there might be. To the best knowledge of our people, at the least, firearms do not grow freely in nature or reproduce after their own kind."

I could make the argument that volcanoes are firearms.

I would find it amusing for you to try to conceal carry a volcano.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:02 pm

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Huffingshire wrote:II: Enacts that all Artificially made Firearms be only sold from trusted sellers, who will perform mandatory background checks upon every purchase,

IV: Enacts that all Artificially made weapons when produced from commercial companies and enterprises, be subject to a testing of firearm safety, to prove that they will then be ready for consumers to use and handle, and, for the continued safety of the consumer when using the firearm, must be printed from high quality resin,

V: That all Artificially made firearms be sustained and regulated to a fire rate of no more than 30 rounds a minute,

I don't like the repeated references to "artificially made" weapons. Surely all weapons are "artificially made" except for a rock or a pointy stick, as guns aren't generally found in nature, after all?

Huffingshire wrote:VI: That all printed guns be marked with a mandatory, universal symbol, which will identify printed firearms

But what would that achieve? How would having a symbol on it change anything?
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Postby Terra Novae Libero » Wed Aug 01, 2018 6:55 pm

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Postby Aclion » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:16 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Aclion wrote:I could make the argument that volcanoes are firearms.

I would find it amusing for you to try to conceal carry a volcano.

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Postby Teretstein » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:20 pm

We generally oppose this on the grounds that weapon control should be the purview of each respective state and not of this Assembly.

With that said, we do acknowledge that Article III,

III: Enacts that all Airports begin a mandatory search in their baggage check, noting on how artificial firearms cannot be detected under conventional metal detectors,


May fall under the jurisdiction of the World Assembly as it could deal with the transport of weapons from one nation to another. Therefore, we acknowledge that states should be permitted to control what enters into their jurisdictions and therefore request that this proposal focus solely on this.

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Postby Araraukar » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:31 am

IC: "I am fairly sure that all firearms are artificially created. And also, the World Assembly already has a gun control resolution on the vein of what you seem to want to accomplish here."

Huffingshire wrote:PS: THIS IS NOT A GUN CONTROL DEBATE. REPEAT. THIS IS. NOT A GUN CONTROL DEBATE THREAD. THANK YOU.

OOC: You're seeking to control guns. How is it not a gun control debate? If you mean a general gun control debate, then you're probably correct, but you can't truncate all debate that's actually on topic of the proposal.
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Postby Huffingshire » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:46 am

Should I revise the bill to focus solely on Section III, and improve to make it fair for all?

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Huffingshire wrote:Should I revise the bill to focus solely on Section III, and improve to make it fair for all?

OOC: So then the proposal would solely be about checking bags in airports for weapons that cannot be detected by X-ray machines? What type of weapon would be undetectable to them, as even plastic knives show up on a scan? Hell, even organic matter shows up on a scan. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding on your part as to how airport X-ray machines function...
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Postby Teretstein » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:12 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Huffingshire wrote:Should I revise the bill to focus solely on Section III, and improve to make it fair for all?

OOC: So then the proposal would solely be about checking bags in airports for weapons that cannot be detected by X-ray machines? What type of weapon would be undetectable to them, as even plastic knives show up on a scan? Hell, even organic matter shows up on a scan. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding on your part as to how airport X-ray machines function...


Perhaps it can also include some regulations regarding the transport of weapons across international boundaries as well, but I thought the WA already had a regulation regarding that.

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The New California Republic wrote:
Huffingshire wrote:Should I revise the bill to focus solely on Section III, and improve to make it fair for all?

OOC: So then the proposal would solely be about checking bags in airports for weapons that cannot be detected by X-ray machines? What type of weapon would be undetectable to them, as even plastic knives show up on a scan? Hell, even organic matter shows up on a scan. There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding on your part as to how airport X-ray machines function...

Exactly. 3D printing does not magically render things invisible. A metal scan may or may not detect it. (probably would, actually, as even 3D printed pistols still require *some* metal parts, such as springs. And Bullets.) If the metal detector does not, though, there is still the x-ray, which can (shock, gasp) see plastic. And then there is the good old "Mark I Eyeball", which can indeed see plastic, and unusual bulges where the "undetectable" 3D pistol is carried.

This whole thing is a non-issue, raised to panic levels by misinformed, ill-informed, or outright lying anti-gun folks.
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Huffingshire wrote:The World Assembly, Category? Strength?

Noting how guns and other firearms can end lives and cause mortal pain,
Observing that there have been successful efforts into regulating these dangerous weapons, There should be a line break before this clause.

Seeing how newly made Artificially Fabricated guns, usually printed from "3D printers" cause a risk to gun safety as a whole, due to the lack of expense and required material, All guns are artificially fabricated, since all guns are made by a sapient being or robot at some point.
Observing that these new, artificial guns, which can be produced easily and quickly without expense, pose a risk to worldwide safety as a whole,These guns are not “without expense”, as they still cost something to make, albeit not much.

Determined to preserving the safety and well-being of every person in this world, Which world? The World Assembly has members on thousands of planets.

Hereby,

For consumer and personal safety:

I: Enacts that all "3D Printed" Firearm Templates and Weapons be subject to regulation and a safety background check before sent to the consumer,

II: Enacts that all Artificially made Firearms be only sold from trusted sellers, who will perform mandatory background checks upon every purchase, All firearms are artificially made, so this doesn’t have anything to do with 3D printing.

III: Enacts that all Airports begin a mandatory search in their baggage check, noting on how artificial firearms cannot be detected under conventional metal detectors, No. This would be logistically impossible in pretty much any airports due to the vast time and human resources this would take.

IV: Enacts that all Artificially made weapons when produced from commercial companies and enterprises, be subject to a testing of firearm safety, to prove that they
will then be ready for consumers to use and handle, and, for the continued safety of the consumer when using the firearm, must be printed from high quality resin, You have now gone for mandating things for all artificially made weapons, which means that your firearm safety checks will also apply to swords and axes. This is also hard to read due to odd formatting,

For Commercial Regulation and safety:

V: That all Artificially made firearms be sustained and regulated to a fire rate of no more than 30 rounds a minute, Once again, you have just restricted the firing rate of all firearms.

VI: That all printed guns be marked with a mandatory, universal symbol, which will identify printed firearms, How will printing them with a symbol that would only be visible from close-up help anyone? Also, what symbol?

VII: That 3D gun templates, downloadable online, require the downloadee to state a reasonable amount of identification so that firearms can be tracked and monitored to a significant degree,Any amount of information that can be used to track someone down will not be “reasonable” and will be very insecure to send online. Also, “downloadee” is not a word.

Finishing,
VIII: That all laws regarding firearms and their use apply to this law just as this law applies to them. What does this actually mean?

Noting, again, that all people in this wide world deserve adequate safety, just as all gun owners require adequate freedoms for the choice and use of their guns,

The World Assembly does hereby propose The Regulation of 3D Printed Firearms Act. No, it does not. The World Assemnly passes legislation, it does not propose ideas to member states.
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Huffingshire wrote:Should I revise the bill to focus solely on Section III, and improve to make it fair for all?
(OOC: Section III makes little sense due to 3D printed weapons still showing up on X-ray and various other detection methods, they only evade one piece of security - metal detectors.)
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Postby Aclion » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:39 am

Grays Harbor wrote:This whole thing is a non-issue, raised to panic levels by misinformed, ill-informed, or outright lying anti-gun folks.

There is no need for redundancy.
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