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School Voilence act

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should we take action against school violence

Poll ended at Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:41 pm

yay
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nay
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Total votes : 19

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Talahina
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School Voilence act

Postby Talahina » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:41 pm

No student in any nation or country should have the fear of gun violence or any type of violence in there schools . schools are meant to bring education and knowledge to the student for their future purposes so that they can be successful in their future that's I am proposing to the council to take action against school violence. the higher security measures are the safer our schools become and the better learning environment for our students ,employees, parents and guardians [proposal=][/proposal]


proposal includes the following : updated crisis plans , control access to educational buildings , increase of security


crisis plan : all schools are to provide a school crisis plan and have it state approved . its important to have a crisis plans that way you know what your going to do in the time being . the crisis plan is to be practice twice a month and updated yearly

building access : to access any educational building teachers and addmistration staff are to have keys to the building or a badge scanners to be let in the building . students are to arrive as normal but when all students have arrived the doors must remain locked and secured for the rest of the day if a students parents are wanting access to the building they're to be buzzed in at the front entrance of the buildings and to be check for any weapons. at the end of the day the doors are to be unlocked and teachers are to monitor each student leaving the building's

increase of security : to form a safer school environment schools are state appointed to have 4 or more security personal to regard the safety of the students and faculty
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:52 pm

U might need to take some time looking at proposals and thev rules. Resolutions have a command action r formatted states what they want to deal with the solution and deals with canon history

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Postby Talahina » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:55 pm

I will look into a propsal

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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:06 pm

Talahina wrote:the higher security measures are the safer our schools become and the better learning environment for our students ,employees, parents and guardians

So what you're trying to tell us is that replicating Nineteen Eighty-Four at your local school will mean A+ grades across the board? I'm sorry, but I just can't support a resolution that says this...
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Postby Jakker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:09 pm

You put this in the wrong forum. Moved to GA. Also, please take a look at other examples of proposals because you need a lot more depth to this as well as there are rules to follow.
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Postby The Anti-Social Socialists » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:10 pm

Something that is particularly jarring to me is that, under your 'building access' section, it seems that only the parents are to be checked for any weapons. I assume you're basing this off some of the American school shooting events, so why is it that the children aren't subject to any explicit scrutiny?
They're the ones bringing the automatic weapons to school, not the parents.
The security personnel are also, I think, deliberately vague. Are they just some strangers or volunteers let into the school, or are we using our police force? Are they armed?
Just a few little observations among a swathe of things that must be improved upon.

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Postby Jebslund » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:42 am

OOC: Hello there! You seem to be new, so I'd like to draw your attention to a couple threads:

This one explains the rules regarding the formatting of proposals, as well as what you can and can't do in proposals.

This one lists the resolutions which have already been passed. You'll want to make sure anything you're trying to do hasn't been done before and doesn't contradict anything that's already being done.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:02 am

Talahina wrote:No student in any nation or country should have the fear of gun violence or any type of violence in there schools . schools are meant to bring education and knowledge to the student for their future purposes so that they can be successful in their future that's I am proposing to the council to take action against school violence. the higher security measures are the safer our schools become and the better learning environment for our students ,employees, parents and guardians [proposal=][/proposal] (Need a fullstop here)

proposal includes the following : updated crisis plans , control access to educational buildings , increase of security (Need a fullstop here)


crisis plan : all schools are to provide a school crisis plan and have it state approved . its important to have a crisis plans that way you know what your going to do in the time being . the crisis plan is to be practice twice a month and updated yearly (Need a fullstop here)

building access : to access any educational building teachers and addmistration staff are to have keys to the building or a badge scanners to be let in the building . students are to arrive as normal but when all students have arrived the doors must remain locked and secured for the rest of the day if a students parents are wanting access to the building they're to be buzzed in at the front entrance of the buildings and to be check for any weapons. at the end of the day the doors are to be unlocked and teachers are to monitor each student leaving the building's (Need a fullstop here)

increase of security : to form a safer school environment schools are state appointed to have 4 or more security personal to regard the safety of the students and faculty (Need a fullstop here)

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:48 am

Lets set up concentration camps for children and call it "safety".

Locking all the doors during school hours? Yes, please, lets just throw fire safety out the window. Fires are much more likely than a school shooting. "Fire" + "Locked Doors" = massive body count. Much more than any shooting. Much much more.

No, this is unacceptable, and quite frankly, I see no means to make it redeemable.
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Postby Tokuopolis » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:50 am

What is "Voilence"?
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Postby San Carlos Islands » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:52 am

Tokuopolis wrote:What is "Voilence"?

This.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:57 am

Tokuopolis wrote:What is "Voilence"?

A particularly obscure style of "valance"?
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Postby SteakFries » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:08 pm

The Anti-Social Socialists wrote:They're the ones bringing the automatic weapons to school, not the parents.


If they are basing this off America, most shootings use semi-automatic weapons, not automatic.

Aside from the obvious grammar/spelling errors, as well as improper format would be

1. Not all nations have states. Use "nationally-approved."
1.a (opinion, I think the twice a month, updated once a year is too much. Maybe reviewed yearly)
2. I would use mechanical or electrical lock & keys over "badge scanner."
3. "Buzzed in" could be checked in (Also locked doors seems super extreme in my opinion. Maybe just my area)
4. "Front entrance" why not any? What is the "front?" My school has 2 main entrances with parking lots by both into the same building.
5. "4 or more" Arbitrary number. IRL way too expensive for my school. What are the personal? Full-time separate position or dual responsibility for already existing positions? Again, national or federal appointed instead of state.

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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:08 pm

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Postby Teretstein » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:41 am

We would never allow such measures in our schools. Your building access policies amount to imprisoning children in the interest of safety. We find such a thought repugnant and antithetical to human rights.

Furthermore, this is not a matter for international law but should be handled by each nation itself.

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:13 am

"So any student who fell ill or was injured while at skill would still have to remain on the premises until the scheduled end of lessons... even if that denial of access to better medical facilities threatened their life? And you're banning students' participation in outdoor sports, or off-site trips, if those would start after the official beginning of the school day? And any school that's currently divided between two or more separate buildings would probably need to change its organisation, if not its actual architecture?
"And you're apparently presuming that all 'indoors' lessons are taught in solid structures with relatively small windows, which -- especially in hot climates -- isn't necessarily the case?
"And all of this to deal with a 'problem' that only
some nations actually face, on the first paw?
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:17 am

Bears Armed wrote:"And you're apparently presuming that all 'indoors' lessons are taught in solid structures with relatively small windows, which -- especially in hot climates -- isn't necessarily the case?

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:23 am

OOC: The author has not replied to any of the comments, nor have they made any edits. It is probably safe to say that this is a "dump and run" draft.
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