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Proposal of restricting future relativistic kill vehicles

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Blaesnia
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Proposal of restricting future relativistic kill vehicles

Postby Blaesnia » Sun May 06, 2018 8:43 am

This is a proposal on Relativistic Kill Vehicles (Will be referenced as RKVs).
We propose that there will be laws international laws set in place wich deny the developement and ownership of RKVs.
An RKV is a projectile or a vehicle moving at 99.999...% the universal speed limit (c) (More often defined as the speed of light).
As a projectile moves that fast, it can go trough essentially everything, break into smaller shrapnel and then continue on destruction. And at that speed, it is essentially time travelling so when it is detected, it would be too late. They can not be defended against either as they are moving at such a great velocity, they would just break into smaller projectiles wich will do more damage.

A great example of the possible power of an RKV could be demonstrated with an example like this. Lets imagine there is an RKV the size of a tennis ball moving towards the solar system with all the planets in line. What the RKV would do, is that it would go straight trough the first planet's atoms, splitting them in pieces and starting a chain reaction wich would release a massive energy burst, reaching the next planet, splitting its atoms and so on. This is why we think that the developement of such weapons and/or technology should be banned. This proposal hereby demands:

1. Near lightspeed/lightspeed travel allowed on the permit of the World Assembly.

2. Destroying planets or using such technology against any living creature banned on behalf of the World Assembly.

3. Using such technology for commercial purposes such as mining is banned on behalf of the World Assembly.

4. Developement of RKV technology is banned on behalf of the World Assembly

5. Developement of lightspeed capable technology is banned unless the specified organization/nation has acquired a specific permit from the World Assembly.

Unpermitted developement and or ownership of this technology will be classified as a break of international laws specified by the World Assembly.



(Could someone kindly make sure this proposal checks out? Would be cool.)

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Kenmoria
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Postby Kenmoria » Sun May 06, 2018 8:52 am

(OOC: Welcome to the General Assembly! Unfortunately, this is very nonstandard formatting and might break the blogposal rule, most proposals are in a format like this:
Relativistic Kill Vehicles


The World Assembly,

RECOGNISING an RKV as a projectile moving at 99.999 % the speed of light,

ACKNOWLEDGING that these weapons can cause major, unwarranted damages,

WORRIED of the lack of WA recognition of this issue,

WISHING to place proper legislation on this issue for the good of member states,

Hereby,

1) Bans blah blah blah;

2) Mandates blah blah blah;

3) Encourages blah blah blah;

4) Clarifies blah blah blah.
I would recommend taking a look at the passed resolutions.)
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Blaesnia
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Postby Blaesnia » Sun May 06, 2018 8:56 am

Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: Welcome to the General Assembly! Unfortunately, this is very nonstandard formatting and might break the blogposal rule, most proposals are in a format like this:
Relativistic Kill Vehicles


The World Assembly,

RECOGNISING an RKV as a projectile moving at 99.999 % the speed of light,

ACKNOWLEDGING that these weapons can cause major, unwarranted damages,

WORRIED of the lack of WA recognition of this issue,

WISHING to place proper legislation on this issue for the good of member states,

Hereby,

1) Bans blah blah blah;

2) Mandates blah blah blah;

3) Encourages blah blah blah;

4) Clarifies blah blah blah.
I would recommend taking a look at the [url=passed resolutions[/url].)
I actually checked the specified forum

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Blaesnia
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Postby Blaesnia » Sun May 06, 2018 8:56 am

But thank you.

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Grays Harbor
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun May 06, 2018 11:47 am

1. Near lightspeed/lightspeed travel allowed on the permit of the World Assembly.

No. Overreach on your part. The WA is not mommy/daddy to give permission

3. Using such technology for commercial purposes such as mining is banned on behalf of the World Assembly.

Rather arbitrary, don't you think? Pointless and counterproductive, too. What exactly does this accomplish? Besides cutting off trade between star nations.

5. Developement of lightspeed capable technology is banned unless the specified organization/nation has acquired a specific permit from the World Assembly.

More overreach. The WA is not mommy/daddy to give permission. You have also effectively banned interstellar travel. Good job.

Unpermitted developement and or ownership of this technology will be classified as a break of international laws specified by the World Assembly.

Fluff. Not necessary.
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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun May 06, 2018 1:53 pm

What is the motivation behind this proposal?
I want to improve.
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Kenmoria
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Postby Kenmoria » Sun May 06, 2018 2:21 pm

"I would split up the paragraphs in the middle of the text into separate clauses."
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The Greater Siriusian Domain
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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Sun May 06, 2018 7:31 pm

Blaesnia wrote:1. Near lightspeed/lightspeed travel allowed on the permit of the World Assembly.
5. Developement of lightspeed capable technology is banned unless the specified organization/nation has acquired a specific permit from the World Assembly.

Unpermitted developement and or ownership of this technology will be classified as a break of international laws specified by the World Assembly.


(Suitable Music)

INCOMING TRANSMISSION...
PRIORITY OMEGA...
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The Confederacy of the Greater Siriusian Domain
Department of Military and Defense

With unanimous approval from the High Council
And majority support of the Confederacy Assembly
HEREBY:
DECLARES WAR
Upon The United States of Blaesnia
FOR:
Attempting to propose World Assembly legislation that would, if enforced,
COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY CRIPPLE THE CONFEDERACY OF THE GREATER SIRIUSIAN DOMAIN
by denying or restricting access to transportation technology critical to the very function of the nation.
DEMANDS TO BE MET FOR A PEACE AGREMENT TO BE POSSIBLE:
Abandon the offending proposal
OR
Amend the offending proposal as to eliminate the highly detrimental effect it has on interstellar travel.

END TRANSMISSION


Teran Saber: "Oh my, Ambassador. You seem to have caused so much of a stir that the High Council has approved a declaration of war against your nation. I admit it's quite a hasty decision since you haven't even attempted to submit your proposal, but still..."

"You're honestly being let off light for this. They simply want you to back down. If this is just an honest mistake then surely you'd find it agreeable, would you not? Of course, if you do insist on maintaining we can only assume you have hostile intentions against not only the Greater Siriusian Domain but all FTL-reliant WA member states."
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Kenmoria
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon May 07, 2018 2:36 am

"By banning the use of lightspeed on forms of life, you have essentially banned teleportation for most space-faring nations. Also, you have banned commercial space travel that uses lightspeed, and a whole bunch of things that really shouldn't be. While the declaration of war is a bit on the heavy side, the Kenmorian parliament likewise cannot support this measure."
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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 07, 2018 6:02 pm

In the ability that a society can relativistic travel happen, they probably are going to use it to move ships and (more generally,) stuff. Insofar as that is the case, prohibiting relativistic travel effectively requires that you ban all high-speed ships, because they could all conceivably be used to make a relativistic weapon. There also aren't differences for material. What matters at relativistic speed is simply the amount of matter on target, not what shape it is in, because the shape gets broken anyway.

Declaring war over a legislative proposal is nothing but silly. Defending it by saying that your characters in your RP would do that is little more than admitting that your RP too is silly.

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The Greater Siriusian Domain
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Postby The Greater Siriusian Domain » Mon May 07, 2018 8:03 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:In the ability that a society can relativistic travel happen, they probably are going to use it to move ships and (more generally,) stuff. Insofar as that is the case, prohibiting relativistic travel effectively requires that you ban all high-speed ships, because they could all conceivably be used to make a relativistic weapon. There also aren't differences for material. What matters at relativistic speed is simply the amount of matter on target, not what shape it is in, because the shape gets broken anyway.

Declaring war over a legislative proposal is nothing but silly. Defending it by saying that your characters in your RP would do that is little more than admitting that your RP too is silly.


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I wouldn't be responding to you this way if you hadn't already shown obvious OOC hostility in the past. I have no reason to believe you're posting in good faith here.

This is getting on my nerves. I joined this site to enjoy it, not to constantly be criticized for "not roleplaying right" simply because my nation isn't a super-realistic historic or modern setting.
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"For a mind so determined to reach the sky, on the wings of a dream!" - Sanctity, Zeppo
This nation's factbook supersedes NS stats and issues, but does not completely replace them. If there is a conflict, the Factbook is correct.

Isentran has been DENOUNCED for proposing legislation that would destroy the economy of the Greater Siriusian Domain
The Greater Siriusian Domain is a borderline Class Z9 Civilization according to this scale

Primary Ambassador: Teran Saber, Male Siriusian. Snarky, slightly arrogant.
Substitute Ambassador: Ra'lingth, Male En'gari. Speaks with emphasized "s" sounds.

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Kenmoria
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Postby Kenmoria » Mon May 07, 2018 11:23 pm

"I would say that instead of banning outright some forms of RKV, instead doing some non-mandatory things like encourage moderation in their use and suggesting alternatives like wormholes could be more successful."
Read the factbook here for more information; perhaps, one day, I will finally finish it. Scan a simplistic form of political opinions here to inaccurately surmise what I believe.

My current character in the General Assembly is Ambassador Q. Fortier. Assume that any current in-character posts are by him, unless stated otherwise.


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